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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1281 » by moorhosj » Sun May 24, 2020 7:07 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:90% of the trips to the grocery are not based out of desperation or starvation but just personal preference, the cupboards are rarely 100% bare, not even crackers at home type situation.

Same goes for home depot or lowes. People are buying flowers, mulch, closet shelving, ceiling fans, etc out of boredom, not out of desperation or necessity.


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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1282 » by Dresden » Mon May 25, 2020 3:19 pm

Just like with the PPP, the federal assistance program to hospitals often got directed to hospital chains that didn't need it:

Wealthiest Hospitals Got Billions in Bailout for Struggling Health Providers

Twenty large chains received more than $5 billion in federal grants even while sitting on more than $100 billion in cash.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/business/coronavirus-hospitals-bailout.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1283 » by Dresden » Mon May 25, 2020 9:49 pm

Despite all the cows still burping and farting, carbon emissions are down 17% so far this year, compared to 2019. So one bright spot coming out of the pandemic.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1284 » by Mbrahv0528 » Mon May 25, 2020 11:12 pm

moorhosj wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:90% of the trips to the grocery are not based out of desperation or starvation but just personal preference, the cupboards are rarely 100% bare, not even crackers at home type situation.

Same goes for home depot or lowes. People are buying flowers, mulch, closet shelving, ceiling fans, etc out of boredom, not out of desperation or necessity.


Why make up statistics? If you have a good point, it can stand without fake data supporting it.
I work in retail, this isn't that far from the truth. People like to shop in this country for whatever reason.

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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1285 » by dice » Tue May 26, 2020 12:14 am

missouri

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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1286 » by Dresden » Tue May 26, 2020 12:27 am

A church in northern CA held services on Mother's Day and there have been 30 new cases of corona from that.
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Post#1287 » by dice » Tue May 26, 2020 12:46 am

imperial college of london study shows that the following states almost certainly have the virus under control (for the time being), with infection rate of others <1 for each infected person:

MT, HI, WY, WV, VT, ID, ND, ME - mostly states w/ low population density

these states PROBABLY have things under control (again, for the time being):

AK, SD, NY, DC, MI, NJ, CT, WA, GA, KY, KS, RI, UT, AR, OR, NH, NV, OK

these states probably don't have a handle on things:

NE, MD, LA, PA, CA, NC, MA, SC, DE, MO, NM, VA, FL, TN, MS, WI, AL, IN

almost certainly don't have a handle on the virus:

IA, MN, OH, CO, IL, AZ, TX

see pg. 8:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-05-21-COVID19-Report-23.pdf

estimate of % of population infected as of last weekend:

16.6 NY
16.1 NJ
13.3 CT
13.0 MA
10.8 DC
8.0 LA
7.1 IL

also suggested that we would quickly be in big trouble if we return to even 20% of normal mobility (page 15)
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1288 » by DuckIII » Tue May 26, 2020 4:22 am

dice wrote:missouri

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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1289 » by Ccwatercraft » Tue May 26, 2020 5:44 pm

on a positive note, I've been daytrading the airlines pretty heavily the last few weeks and its worked out tremendously its been dumping 5-10% swings in my favor pretty regular.

Got in heavy middle of last week and held them through the weekend, which I normally wouldn't do, dam glad I did because today has been a VERY good day for my portfolio, I already pulled some gains and likely will pull the rest before market close and pat myself on the back for good timing.
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Post#1290 » by Dresden » Tue May 26, 2020 11:37 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:on a positive note, I've been daytrading the airlines pretty heavily the last few weeks and its worked out tremendously its been dumping 5-10% swings in my favor pretty regular.

Got in heavy middle of last week and held them through the weekend, which I normally wouldn't do, dam glad I did because today has been a VERY good day for my portfolio, I already pulled some gains and likely will pull the rest before market close and pat myself on the back for good timing.



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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1291 » by PlayerUp » Tue May 26, 2020 11:55 pm

Dresden wrote:Despite all the cows still burping and farting, carbon emissions are down 17% so far this year, compared to 2019. So one bright spot coming out of the pandemic.


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-020-0797-x

Daily global CO2 emissions decreased by –17% (–11 to –25% for ±1σ) by early April 2020 compared with the mean 2019 levels, just under half from changes in surface transport. At their peak, emissions in individual countries decreased by –26% on average. The impact on 2020 annual emissions depends on the duration of the confinement, with a low estimate of –4% (–2 to –7%) if prepandemic conditions return by mid-June, and a high estimate of –7% (–3 to –13%) if some restrictions remain worldwide until the end of 2020. Government actions and economic incentives postcrisis will likely influence the global CO2 emissions path for decades.


Original article reporting this. It's 17% globally which is good but we're still far from being at net zero.

However this should help offset those Australian fires and January volcano surges.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1292 » by Payt10 » Wed May 27, 2020 12:42 am

dice wrote:missouri

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I don't understand how that could be enjoyable to anyone. Gives me anxiety just thinking about it, social distancing protocols or not. Yuck.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1293 » by Ccwatercraft » Wed May 27, 2020 2:24 am

Dresden wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:on a positive note, I've been daytrading the airlines pretty heavily the last few weeks and its worked out tremendously its been dumping 5-10% swings in my favor pretty regular.

Got in heavy middle of last week and held them through the weekend, which I normally wouldn't do, dam glad I did because today has been a VERY good day for my portfolio, I already pulled some gains and likely will pull the rest before market close and pat myself on the back for good timing.



Congrats. time for some new watercraft?


Nope, maybe some footie pajamas.

a.m. edit, so much for the pat on the back, I jumped out early yesterday and the whole sector is up another 10% today. And I was hoping for a dip lol
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1294 » by dice » Wed May 27, 2020 3:27 am

Ccwatercraft wrote:on a positive note, I've been daytrading the airlines pretty heavily the last few weeks and its worked out tremendously its been dumping 5-10% swings in my favor pretty regular.

Got in heavy middle of last week and held them through the weekend, which I normally wouldn't do, dam glad I did because today has been a VERY good day for my portfolio, I already pulled some gains and likely will pull the rest before market close and pat myself on the back for good timing.

good to know in these times
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Post#1295 » by Dresden » Wed May 27, 2020 7:50 pm

Brazil's numbers of corona are very concerning. They are getting very poor guidance from their president, who refuses to wear a mask, and brushes it off as nothing more than the flu.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1296 » by Dresden » Wed May 27, 2020 7:53 pm

PlayerUp wrote:
Dresden wrote:Despite all the cows still burping and farting, carbon emissions are down 17% so far this year, compared to 2019. So one bright spot coming out of the pandemic.


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-020-0797-x

Daily global CO2 emissions decreased by –17% (–11 to –25% for ±1σ) by early April 2020 compared with the mean 2019 levels, just under half from changes in surface transport. At their peak, emissions in individual countries decreased by –26% on average. The impact on 2020 annual emissions depends on the duration of the confinement, with a low estimate of –4% (–2 to –7%) if prepandemic conditions return by mid-June, and a high estimate of –7% (–3 to –13%) if some restrictions remain worldwide until the end of 2020. Government actions and economic incentives postcrisis will likely influence the global CO2 emissions path for decades.


Original article reporting this. It's 17% globally which is good but we're still far from being at net zero.

However this should help offset those Australian fires and January volcano surges.


No, its not net 0, but when is the last time we've ever had a decrease from one year to the next? Never. We just need to figure out how to do this on a permanent basis.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1297 » by dice » Thu May 28, 2020 2:44 am

only 62% of democrats, 43% of republicans and 31% of independent voters plan on getting a COVID-19 vaccine if/when available:

http://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pages/Expectations-for-a-COVID-19-Vaccine.aspx?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20200527&instance_id=18864&nl=coronavirus-briefing&regi_id=94658923&segment_id=29355&te=1&user_id=7ea4e9d4dbdb5ec9d68d451510e3f47d

boy does this country have issues

meanwhile, france has banned hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1298 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu May 28, 2020 6:40 am

dice wrote:imperial college of london study shows that the following states almost certainly have the virus under control (for the time being), with infection rate of others <1 for each infected person:

MT, HI, WY, WV, VT, ID, ND, ME - mostly states w/ low population density

these states PROBABLY have things under control (again, for the time being):

AK, SD, NY, DC, MI, NJ, CT, WA, GA, KY, KS, RI, UT, AR, OR, NH, NV, OK

these states probably don't have a handle on things:

NE, MD, LA, PA, CA, NC, MA, SC, DE, MO, NM, VA, FL, TN, MS, WI, AL, IN

almost certainly don't have a handle on the virus:

IA, MN, OH, CO, IL, AZ, TX

see pg. 8:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-05-21-COVID19-Report-23.pdf

estimate of % of population infected as of last weekend:

16.6 NY
16.1 NJ
13.3 CT
13.0 MA
10.8 DC
8.0 LA
7.1 IL

also suggested that we would quickly be in big trouble if we return to even 20% of normal mobility (page 15)

How is Alaska under the "probably"? I happen to be in Alaska right now and it might be the safest place on the planet when it comes to the pandemic. They have around 400 total cases with just 10 deaths reported in the entire state, to date. There hasn't been a Covid-19 related death in about a month and less than a dozen new cases in that same time. Despite the numbers being nearly non-existent I would say that the people here on the Kenai Peninsula are doing a better job of social distancing and wearing masks. when I go into town I noticed nearly everybody wearing masks in the grocery stores. 10 days ago when I left Phoenix it seemed like maybe one in five people are actually wearing masks and most people have just decided to forget about social distancing. It would not surprise me if Arizona has a second wave because of this.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1299 » by johnnyvann840 » Thu May 28, 2020 6:45 am

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dice wrote:missouri

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I don't understand how that could be enjoyable to anyone. Gives me anxiety just thinking about it, social distancing protocols or not. Yuck.

Just disgusting on so many levels.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 thread #2 

Post#1300 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Thu May 28, 2020 7:17 am

Illinois is 1 of 3 states that has met federal criteria for reopening.

https://projects.propublica.org/reopening-america/
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