General Blue Jays Thread

GameChannel wrote:I may be in the minority but I am getting concerned that Vladdy may not turn out to be the star everyone predicted him to become. Based on what I saw last season and early this season, it doesn't fill me with confidence.

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bluerap23 · Post #1289 » by **bluerap23** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:31 pm

Cyrus wrote:T Walker looking good this year. Better than any of the back end of rotations guys we have had so far.

Yup. Many here thought last year was a fluke. At the contract he signed for it was definitely worth the risk. We simply don't have the depth in our rotation to let guys walk. This is why I find the idea of trading Ray if we aren't in contention very upsetting.

Post #1290 » by **Schad** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:42 pm

Walker is still getting really lucky. He's a decent pitcher, but his numbers are pretty misleading.

dagger · Post #1291 » by **dagger** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:57 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
Cyrus wrote:T Walker looking good this year. Better than any of the back end of rotations guys we have had so far.

Yup. Many here thought last year was a fluke. At the contract he signed for it was definitely worth the risk. We simply don't have the depth in our rotation to let guys walk. This is why I find the idea of trading Ray if we aren't in contention very upsetting.

Schad and I differ over giving the QO to Ray. I wouldn't say his answer in another thread was a resounding over-my-dead-body no, but the yardstick for pitchers' salaries keeps going up. Right now, Ray in my opinion is in the same class as Lance Lynn with the added appeal of being 4+ years younger. Lynn is an all-star, and maybe leveraged status a bit here, but Ray's last several weeks have been all-star quality. Maybe Ray loses a bit of leverage with his performance third time through the order, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Post #1292 » by **Schad** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:25 pm

I'm not 100% against it, and the more nights like his last two starts, the better of a proposition it becomes. His underlying numbers were highly average until the past month, where he has been flat-out dominant.

I'd much rather QO Ray than give him a longer-term deal, though, given how variable he has been over the years. And if he continues in this fashion, if he rejects it, he's much more likely to get offers in excess of $50m that will trigger a comp pick (Comp B picks aren't super-high. Getting two for Ray/Semien would add another $2m in bonus pool, and provide us a good chance to renew the system (assuming we go big in the offseason).

HangTime · Post #1293 » by **HangTime** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:17 pm

This arc of the Jays is like the road the show.

2019 -
September callup

2020 -
1st portion, assigned to AA, but something's wrong with the home ball park, so we have to play home games on the road.
2nd portion, we get called up to AAA, and make a push for the playoffs

2021- held back for service time manipulation
1st portion, Assigned to A,
2nd portion, called up to AAA
3rd portion, called up to the Majors

polo007 · Post #1294 » by **polo007** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:50 pm

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polo007 · Post #1295 » by **polo007** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:58 pm

Blue Jays' return home offers long absent normalcy, sense of possibility - Sportsnet.ca

Shapiro confirmed that Ontario regards the convertible Rogers Centre as an outdoor venue, allowing for a capacity of 15,000 under Stage 3 of the province’s recovery plan, even if inclement weather forces the roof to be closed. The ability to keep some flaps open and increase air circulation is part of the plan to alleviate risk.

Information on tickets, with season subscribers a priority, is due early next week, along with details on health regulations and protocols in the stands. The dome has been deep cleaned after going largely unused for nearly two years, new turf installed and a sound system upgraded from the building’s original last year has been readied for use.

Equipment at Buffalo’s Sahlen Field must be shipped north once the current homestand ends with Wednesday’s series finale against the Boston Red Sox, while players need to close out leases and pack up homes in one city and start anew in another eight days later.

A lot of people will be doing a lot of hustle in a compressed time period.

The payoff comes in players getting to play before the team’s fans at Rogers Centre for the first time – like Hyun-Jin Ryu, George Springer and Marcus Semien – and staffers getting home after extended periods away from loved ones on the road.

There will be a financial benefit, too, as the Blue Jays are currently last in the majors in attendance at 161,313. The 21 games at Dunedin, where they drew only 30,936 for an average of 1,473, were largely responsible for that. They’ve averaged 6,861 fans through 19 dates at Buffalo, a pace better than the Miami Marlins (6,464) and Oakland Athletics (6,394) and just short of the Tampa Bay Rays (7,083).

Demand is expected to be strong in Toronto, although Shapiro said he had only for the first time asked the club’s ticket-modelling staff what the fiscal impact will look like.

“They're still working on that, which I guess is the best answer to the question, financial considerations weren't even a thought. They weren't even part of this,” he said. “We will certainly do a little better moving back. We have done well in Buffalo. Better in Buffalo than we did in Dunedin. It won't begin to eclipse the magnitude of losses that we've incurred over the last two seasons. This is about getting home. This is about being where we should be. This is about reuniting with our fans. Finances are a tiny to nonexistent part of the equation.”

Benefits from the restoration of normalcy are expected everywhere from on-field performance to trying to lure free agents in the off-season

polo007 · Post #1296 » by **polo007** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:16 am

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ItsDanger · Post #1297 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:13 am

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