2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV

[Negrodamus]

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Please let this trade happen.

I mean, it makes too much sense for both squads to not happen. My guess is Okafor goes with #3. Also makes sense to add him to the deal.

I could see:

1. Fultz
2. Ball or Jackson
3. Fox
4. Ball or Jackson
5. Monk to Philly
6. Isaac
7. Markk
8. DSJ

If Tatum is sitting there at 9, and you've got 10....do you try to use a bunch of 2nds to try to get that pick from Dallas, now that you've made friends by letting them steal Noel?

Walking away from the draft with Monk and Tatum minus Okafor, I would be pretty happy.

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I think it make sense sense for both teams to not do. Why would the Kings trade up? Fox is not going to go before 5. The Kings don't need to trade up for 3 to get Fox. Phoenix won't draft Fox. And why trade 2 picks just to move up to 2 spots for a guy who will be there at 5? Not happening. And why should the Sixers trade back when we can get one of Ball or Jackson? I can understand the Sixers trading back and I did think about it but after looking over everything I think it's best to stay at 3.

Because I think Ball and Jackson are going to be great role players, not necessarily All Stars. But that's just my opinion. And presumably those two will be 2 of the top 5 in this draft. So one of the players I'd be more interested will be there at 5 along with us grabbing #10. But if Woj says it's not happening, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Skates]

Pompey is rarely right, except at the worst times, so there is that.

At 10 in that deal or if we keep three and make a deal for a top 12 pick, don't be surprised to see Zack Collins there. Of all of our 'core' players, Embiid is the most talented and remains an enormous risk. We have plenty of picks in future drafts to address that as well if needed, but let's not act like Jojo is some sort of guarantee to ever really be a long term player. I pray he is, but 31 games in three years is at least very cautionary.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I think a lot of people are gonna be disappointed. I think this 5 and 10 for 3 talk is just as unlikely to happen as the Lakers passing on Ball, as much as it would excite a lot of Sixers fans for either to happen.

Neither scenarios make a ton of sense to me. The only wildcard is how bad of a GM Vlade is, but even then he's probably scared based on pride alone to allow the Sixers to rip him off yet again. The Kings can very likely grab Fox at 5.

[Cheatergriffin]

I mean, it makes too much sense for both squads to not happen. My guess is Okafor goes with #3. Also makes sense to add him to the deal.

I could see:

1. Fultz
2. Ball or Jackson
3. Fox
4. Ball or Jackson
5. Monk to Philly
6. Isaac
7. Markk
8. DSJ

If Tatum is sitting there at 9, and you've got 10....do you try to use a bunch of 2nds to try to get that pick from Dallas, now that you've made friends by letting them steal Noel?

Walking away from the draft with Monk and Tatum minus Okafor, I would be pretty happy.

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I think it make sense sense for both teams to not do. Why would the Kings trade up? Fox is not going to go before 5. The Kings don't need to trade up for 3 to get Fox. Phoenix won't draft Fox. And why trade 2 picks just to move up to 2 spots for a guy who will be there at 5? Not happening. And why should the Sixers trade back when we can get one of Ball or Jackson? I can understand the Sixers trading back and I did think about it but after looking over everything I think it's best to stay at 3.

Because I think Ball and Jackson are going to be great role players, not necessarily All Stars. But that's just my opinion. And presumably those two will be 2 of the top 5 in this draft. So one of the players I'd be more interested will be there at 5 along with us grabbing #10. But if Woj says it's not happening, I'm not getting my hopes up.

If lakers take jackson, kings trade up for fox, phx takes isaac or tatum, orlando goes isaac or tatum? Where woukd lonzo end up? Theres a chance he might slide in the draft curious as to possibility how far?

[Cheatergriffin]

I think a lot of people are gonna be disappointed. I think this 5 and 10 for 3 talk is just as unlikely to happen as the Lakers passing on Ball, as much as it would excite a lot of Sixers fans for either to happen.

Neither scenarios make a ton of sense to me. The only wildcard is how bad of a GM Vlade is, but even then he's probably scared based on pride alone to allow the Sixers to rip him off yet again. The Kings can very likely grab Fox at 5.

Agree with this tho.

[LloydFree]

I think it make sense sense for both teams to not do. Why would the Kings trade up? Fox is not going to go before 5. The Kings don't need to trade up for 3 to get Fox. Phoenix won't draft Fox. And why trade 2 picks just to move up to 2 spots for a guy who will be there at 5? Not happening. And why should the Sixers trade back when we can get one of Ball or Jackson? I can understand the Sixers trading back and I did think about it but after looking over everything I think it's best to stay at 3.

Because I think Ball and Jackson are going to be great role players, not necessarily All Stars. But that's just my opinion. And presumably those two will be 2 of the top 5 in this draft. So one of the players I'd be more interested will be there at 5 along with us grabbing #10. But if Woj says it's not happening, I'm not getting my hopes up.

If lakers take jackson, kings trade up for fox, phx takes isaac or tatum, orlando goes isaac or tatum? Where woukd lonzo end up? Theres a chance he might slide in the draft curious as to possibility how far?

Then you are assuming one (or both) of the GMs of the Suns and Magic are idiots, who would actually take Jason Tatum over Lonzo Ball.

[JojoSlimbiid]

That Issac promise really makes me think Josh is going to L.A.

[PLO]

Because I think Ball and Jackson are going to be great role players, not necessarily All Stars. But that's just my opinion. And presumably those two will be 2 of the top 5 in this draft. So one of the players I'd be more interested will be there at 5 along with us grabbing #10. But if Woj says it's not happening, I'm not getting my hopes up.

If lakers take jackson, kings trade up for fox, phx takes isaac or tatum, orlando goes isaac or tatum? Where woukd lonzo end up? Theres a chance he might slide in the draft curious as to possibility how far?

Then you are assuming one (or both) of the GMs of the Suns and Magic are idiots, who would actually take Jason Tatum over Lonzo Ball.

Not everyone thinks Lonzo Ball is going to be a better player in the NBA than Jayson Tatum.

[PLO]

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Please let this trade happen.

I mean, it makes too much sense for both squads to not happen. My guess is Okafor goes with #3. Also makes sense to add him to the deal.

I could see:

1. Fultz
2. Ball or Jackson
3. Fox
4. Ball or Jackson
5. Monk to Philly
6. Isaac
7. Markk
8. DSJ

If Tatum is sitting there at 9, and you've got 10....do you try to use a bunch of 2nds to try to get that pick from Dallas, now that you've made friends by letting them steal Noel?

Walking away from the draft with Monk and Tatum minus Okafor, I would be pretty happy.

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I think it make sense sense for both teams to not do. Why would the Kings trade up? Fox is not going to go before 5. The Kings don't need to trade up for 3 to get Fox. Phoenix won't draft Fox. And why trade 2 picks just to move up to 2 spots for a guy who will be there at 5? Not happening. And why should the Sixers trade back when we can get one of Ball or Jackson? I can understand the Sixers trading back and I did think about it but after looking over everything I think it's best to stay at 3.

You're assuming that Ball and Jackson are the second best players in this draft when its likely a lot of league FOs don't think that - I certainly don't think that. I think there are a number of players after Fultz who have an argument to go anywhere from the second overall pick to the 7th overall pick and a few after that not that far behind, and these players include Ball and Jackson but also include guys like DSJ, Isaac, Tatum etc. If I were offered 5 and 10 for three in this draft I wouldn't miss a beat in taking that deal; I'd probably go a wing first (Isaac or Tatum) then pick up a guard with the 10th pick, although if I were going guard with the 5th pick it would be DSJ hands down.

[Eyeamok]

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I like the way pompey goes out on a limb.

[sixerswillrule]

3 is a great spot, thx Hinkie. Players are having good workouts and teams are getting nervous about getting their best prospect. For example, Isaac is moving up. A 6'11 capable perimeter defender and shooter. Every team will need a player or few to guard the elite playmakers like Durant, Lebron, and Giannis. Isaac's defensive potential is very undervalued.

TLC 6'7 SG, defend PGs
Covington 6'9 SG,SF, defend SG
Simmons 6'10 PG, defend PF
Isaac 6'11 PF, defend SF
Embiid 7'2. C Rim protector

All two-way players that are mostly good shooters and matchup well on defense.

That lineup needs another playmaker.

Embiid is a good passer and his ability to score from the post lessens the need for another playmaker. It's a lineup that can work for stretches with Saric, Sauce, and Bayless providing other offensive combinations.

Even with Embiid, it's a lineup that could get ugly on offense because there is no secondary ball-handler. You need more than one guy on the court who can consistently create from the perimeter. Hopefully someone much better than Bayless and Stauskas. Saric should be the 6th man.

[Chris76]

TLC 6'7 SG, defend PGs
Covington 6'9 SG,SF, defend SG
Simmons 6'10 PG, defend PF
Isaac 6'11 PF, defend SF
Embiid 7'2. C Rim protector

If Embiid and Simmons can stay healthy that's an interesting squad. I like it.

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Who needs small ball?

[Unbreakable99]

That Issac promise really makes me think Josh is going to L.A.

What Isaac promise? And why would a promis to Isaac have anything to do with Josh going to LA?

[freshie2]

Isaac is not working out for anyone below 4.

[cksdayoff]

i want dsj

[Chris76]

Isaac is not working out for anyone below 4.

Isaac could have the most defensive potential in the draft.

[LloydFree]

Isaac is not working out for anyone below 4.

If I were one of the best 5 players in this draft (and he is) and the Kings had the #5 pick, I'd only work out for the top 4 teams too.

[cksdayoff]

How is JJ more offensively skilled than Wiggins? In a tight game you're almost forced to take him off the court due to his FT percentage, plus will his quickness actually be true when he is guarded by wing players vs college power forwards?

jj has better handles for one. his ft shooting is a concern tho.

i find it funny how all of a sudden people are starting to underrate jj's athleticism. the guy is quick, fast, moves well laterally, smooth, fluid, has burst. he's a pretty good athlete in a 6'8" body.

[Kobblehead]

The Timberwolves should do everything in their power to trade up for Isaac.

[freshie2]

How is JJ more offensively skilled than Wiggins? In a tight game you're almost forced to take him off the court due to his FT percentage, plus will his quickness actually be true when he is guarded by wing players vs college power forwards?

jj has better handles for one. his ft shooting is a concern tho.

i find it funny how all of a sudden people are starting to underrate jj's athleticism. the guy is quick, fast, moves well laterally, smooth, fluid, has burst. he's a pretty good athlete in a 6'8" body.

Rodney Carney was probably more athletic than JJ...how did that work out? Not saying he can't be a stud, but he's a long way from a sure thing.