Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

spearsy23 · Post #1301 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jan 1, 2019 11:47 pm

I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Post #1302 » by **slick_watts** » Tue Jan 1, 2019 11:49 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

donte grantham.

Post #1303 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue Jan 1, 2019 11:54 pm

slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

donte grantham.

the missing piece of the kings puzzle.

spearsy23 · Post #1304 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jan 1, 2019 11:55 pm

slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

donte grantham.

Poor man's Steph for poor man's PG is close to fair. Might be willing to add hervey's draft rights.

spearsy23 · Post #1305 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jan 1, 2019 11:57 pm

Side note, it's nice to see the Kings not sucking. That early 00's team was so much fun

Post #1306 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Jan 1, 2019 11:58 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Meanwhile Alex is mysteriously MIA. Vlade loves euros. Coincidence?

Dn4sty · Post #1307 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:07 am

spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

spearsy23 · Post #1308 » by **spearsy23** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:08 am

Dn4sty wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

I'm not a fan, but that's a really good one.

Dn4sty · Post #1309 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:11 am

spearsy23 wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

I'm not a fan, but that's a really good one.

Me neither really, but Ingram fits far better age wise with Fox and Bagley.

Hield would be perfect working with Lebron

spearsy23 · Post #1310 » by **spearsy23** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:14 am

Dn4sty wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

I'm not a fan, but that's a really good one.

Me neither really, but Ingram fits far better age wise with Fox and Bagley.

Hield would be perfect working with Lebron

Also saves 2.5 million in salary for la next year... Man, I think both fan base might hate it, but I really like the idea. I'd add a little bit from LA even.

Post #1311 » by **slick_watts** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:16 am

i think sacramento fans will hate it.

Mattv · Post #1312 » by **Mattv** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:22 am

getrichordie wrote:As tired as you guys are of hearing me talk about trades, I’d like to propose a hypothetical...

My hope is that a bunch of guys won’t latch on to the reaction “this is stupid, this will never happen” and actually give it some thought and consider it.

Let’s say the Kings wanted Adams.

Let’s say that Presti would be interested in Hield.

What does that trade look like? What’s the discussion between the two GMs?

I think a third team would need to get involved as Kings wouldn’t be interested in giving up Hield.

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To me it would have to be something like this.

SAC gets Adam's Tlc and Paterson.

Okc gets Bogdan Bogdanovic Bjelica WCS
Skal Labissiere and a 1st nd Round pick.

And I still really dont want to trade Adams and this would be a good return.

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getrichordie · Post #1313 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:23 am

Dn4sty wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

I’m a huge Ingram fan, but I can see Sacramento looking for a younger off-ball player to put in between Fox-Bogie-Bagley so that Fox and Bagley get their reps.

Abrines + Diallo + 2024 FRP (protected) for Hield + McLemore?

Just spitballing on that trade idea.

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Post #1314 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 12:59 am

I remember some kings fan saying Bogdanovic has been effect playing the three as well as the two. I dont know if that’s true but if so then I would probably prefer him over Buddy.

getrichordie · Post #1315 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 1:06 am

ThunderBolt wrote:I remember some kings fan saying Bogdanovic has been effect playing the three as well as the two. I dont know if that’s true but if so then I would probably prefer him over Buddy.

I can definitely see the Kings viewing Bogey as their long-term 2 rather than Hield. They have a decision to make there because I don’t think they see Bogey as a 3. This is why they have been linked to the Otto Porter trade talks.

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Dn4sty · Post #1316 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 1:19 am

getrichordie wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I remember some kings fan saying Bogdanovic has been effect playing the three as well as the two. I dont know if that’s true but if so then I would probably prefer him over Buddy.

I can definitely see the Kings viewing Bogey as their long-term 2 rather than Hield. They have a decision to make there because I don’t think they see Bogey as a 3. This is why they have been linked to the Otto Porter trade talks.

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I’m not sure they have to make a decision. I think you can find more than enough time for everyone, even if they upgrade at SF with Porter. Bogdan has even played some backup PG/facilitator.

The player who would be perfect for the Kings if he was 100% is Roberson

getrichordie · Post #1317 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 1:38 am

Dn4sty wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:I remember some kings fan saying Bogdanovic has been effect playing the three as well as the two. I dont know if that’s true but if so then I would probably prefer him over Buddy.

I can definitely see the Kings viewing Bogey as their long-term 2 rather than Hield. They have a decision to make there because I don’t think they see Bogey as a 3. This is why they have been linked to the Otto Porter trade talks.

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I’m not sure they have to make a decision. I think you can find more than enough time for everyone, even if they upgrade at SF with Porter. Bogdan has even played some backup PG/facilitator.

The player who would be perfect for the Kings if he was 100% is Roberson

Interesting. So you think Sacramento can, in theory, keep both Hield and Bogey happy?

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spearsy23 · Post #1318 » by **spearsy23** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 1:45 am

getrichordie wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I can kinda see rationale to them moving hield for a high upside guy who is younger, but it's tough to tell who that could be

Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

I’m a huge Ingram fan, but I can see Sacramento looking for a younger off-ball player to put in between Fox-Bogie-Bagley so that Fox and Bagley get their reps.

Abrines + Diallo + 2024 FRP (protected) for Hield + McLemore?

Just spitballing on that trade idea.

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at this point abrines and McLemore are nothings.

So diallo/protected first for hield? I think that's a pretty easy no from Sacramento. You'd probably have to add Ferguson too and even then I'm not sure.

getrichordie · Post #1319 » by **getrichordie** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 1:55 am

spearsy23 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
Does Brandon Ingram have enough value?

I’m a huge Ingram fan, but I can see Sacramento looking for a younger off-ball player to put in between Fox-Bogie-Bagley so that Fox and Bagley get their reps.

Abrines + Diallo + 2024 FRP (protected) for Hield + McLemore?

Just spitballing on that trade idea.

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at this point abrines and McLemore are nothings.

So diallo/protected first for hield? I think that's a pretty easy no from Sacramento. You'd probably have to add Ferguson too and even then I'm not sure.

Thanks for the input. I think Abrines trade value is very questionable due to the weird stuff going on right now with him being sick and him taking personal leave.

However, if his prognosis is 100% healthy and whatever’s going on with him gets resolved, I think he has a lot of value in the sense that he could be retained for cheap and he’s a hell of a floor spacer and that’s about it. You can’t even say that about McLemore.

EDIT: If Sacramento wanted Abrines, what do you think they would be willing to give up?

Abrines + Felton

for

McLemore + Ferrell/Mason?

I can see Sacramento being interested in Felton as a veteran presence who can play point in a pinch.

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Dn4sty · Post #1320 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jan 2, 2019 2:14 am

getrichordie wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
I can definitely see the Kings viewing Bogey as their long-term 2 rather than Hield. They have a decision to make there because I don’t think they see Bogey as a 3. This is why they have been linked to the Otto Porter trade talks.

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I’m not sure they have to make a decision. I think you can find more than enough time for everyone, even if they upgrade at SF with Porter. Bogdan has even played some backup PG/facilitator.

The player who would be perfect for the Kings if he was 100% is Roberson

Interesting. So you think Sacramento can, in theory, keep both Hield and Bogey happy?

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Everyone on the Kings is too young to be disgruntled. Bogdan can play off bench as backup SF and SG and even a few minutes of point.

I think the question is not keeping everyone happy as much as the age difference between Hield and Fox/Bagley.

I don’t think it’s a big deal as I think Buddy has been so good. I’m not sure I’d get Porter if I’m Kings unless Wiz just want expirings and a 2nd. I think RHJ would do wonders for that team and I’m guessing you can get him for next to nothing