Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[Jamaaliver]

A starting lineup of

Simmons
Tobias
Hunter
Bogdan
Trae

with Capela and Huerter off the bench isn't terrible.

Atlanta Hawks Have The Perfect Trade Package For Ben Simmons



Atlanta Hawks Receive: Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris

Philadelphia 76ers Receive: John Collins, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Danilo Gallinari, Lou Williams, 2022 first-round pick (ATL), 2024 first-round pick (ATL)

Ben Simmons when playing is one of the best defenders and playmakers in the league. On the Atlanta Hawks, he'd be able to help Trae Young lessen his ballhandling and playmaking duties, and allow Young to get some easy off-ball baskets. Ben Simmons would also help cover some holes for the team defensively. Trae Young isn't the best defender, and perhaps Ben Simmons would help make up for his lack of ability in that area.

The Atlanta Hawks would also acquire Tobias Harris, who is known around the league for being on a bad contract relative to his ability. However, that doesn't mean Tobias Harris is a bad basketball player: he is currently averaging 18.1 PPG, 7.4 RPG, and 3.8 APG, and there's no doubt that he can contribute to the Hawks' playoff push.

While the Atlanta Hawks would have to take on Tobias Harris' contract in this deal, they would be getting a 3-time All-Star in return who matches up with Trae Young's timeline. It doesn't get much better than that, and this move would pay huge dividends for the Hawks.

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[Ball4life32]

Not a fan honestly. Taking on Tobias terrible contract while losing Collins, benching Capela (& can’t play with Ben so how many mins would he even get) and no mins for Okongwu after his play doesn’t make such sense.

And Ingram and hawks defense would get even worse with that trade. Perimeter defense would be really bad.

[jayu70]

Any trade that involves taking back Tobias Harris and his contract is a no go for me. I don't trust that simmons can get his head right and if he turns around and wants to be traded from Atlanta, we get stuck with Harris and that contract.
Over-valuation of Ingram.

[raleigh]

Yeah... Taking on Harris too means zero financial flexibility. You'd have to be sure you built a contender.

[kg01]

Any trade that involves taking back Tobias Harris and his contract is a no go for me. I don't trust that simmons can get his head right and if he turns around and wants to be traded from Atlanta, we get stuck with Harris and that contract.
Over-valuation of Ingram.

Agree with all this. Any deal has to involve re-routing Harris to a 3rd team. Maybe this is where SAC comes?

And that's way too much for ThIngram. And wouldn't that deal make us way small?

[tbhawksfan1]

Hawks Consolidate, Pelicans Add Depth and Assets



Atlanta Hawks receive: Brandon Ingram

New Orleans Pelicans receive: John Collins, De'Andre Hunter and 2022 first-round pick (top-18 protected, via CHA)

The Hawks had hopped to rev forward after their Eastern Conference Finals breakout, but they've been stuck in neutral all season. Their roster is as deep as any, but they can't afford to keep everyone—they already moved on from 2019 No. 10 pick Cam Reddish—and they have long appeared prime for a consolidation deal.

Snatching Brandon Ingram away from the Zion Williamson-less, going-nowhere-fast Pelicans might be the move to make.

Ingram could shine as Atlanta's second star. He could instantly relieve some of Trae Young's heavy scoring and playmaking duties, and his three-ball (38.6 percent over the past two seasons) would help keep the floor open for the Hawks guard to attack and run pick-and-rolls with Clint Capela. Since Young and Ingram are both on the right side of 25, Atlanta would be poised to remain an Eastern Conference threat for years to come.

New Orleans, meanwhile, could covet better depth in preparation of Williamson's eventual return. A Zion-John Collins frontcourt would rank among the bounciest in basketball, and Collins, who desires a bigger role, could have enough shooting and shot-blocking to cover up Williamson's biggest weaknesses. This would put Jonas Valanciunas on the bench (or the trade block), but the 29-year-old never seemed more than a stopgap solution in the Crescent City.

A healthy De'Andre Hunter is the three-and-D wing New Orleans hopes rookie Trey Murphy III eventually becomes. Finally, putting another first-round pick on the Pelicans' pile would give them even more trade chips to throw around in a separate swap.

Bleacher Report

Ingram is good. No to Hunter though. Maybe Heurter or JJ though

[tbhawksfan1]

Ben Simmons at C is a terrible idea. His defensive accumen is on the outside. He is not a rim protector or rebounder against legit Cs.
BenSimmons is too damaged and flakey to even take a chance on either way

[Years90Suns]

Hawks Consolidate, Pelicans Add Depth and Assets



Atlanta Hawks receive: Brandon Ingram

New Orleans Pelicans receive: John Collins, De'Andre Hunter and 2022 first-round pick (top-18 protected, via CHA)

The Hawks had hopped to rev forward after their Eastern Conference Finals breakout, but they've been stuck in neutral all season. Their roster is as deep as any, but they can't afford to keep everyone—they already moved on from 2019 No. 10 pick Cam Reddish—and they have long appeared prime for a consolidation deal.

Snatching Brandon Ingram away from the Zion Williamson-less, going-nowhere-fast Pelicans might be the move to make.

Ingram could shine as Atlanta's second star. He could instantly relieve some of Trae Young's heavy scoring and playmaking duties, and his three-ball (38.6 percent over the past two seasons) would help keep the floor open for the Hawks guard to attack and run pick-and-rolls with Clint Capela. Since Young and Ingram are both on the right side of 25, Atlanta would be poised to remain an Eastern Conference threat for years to come.

New Orleans, meanwhile, could covet better depth in preparation of Williamson's eventual return. A Zion-John Collins frontcourt would rank among the bounciest in basketball, and Collins, who desires a bigger role, could have enough shooting and shot-blocking to cover up Williamson's biggest weaknesses. This would put Jonas Valanciunas on the bench (or the trade block), but the 29-year-old never seemed more than a stopgap solution in the Crescent City.

A healthy De'Andre Hunter is the three-and-D wing New Orleans hopes rookie Trey Murphy III eventually becomes. Finally, putting another first-round pick on the Pelicans' pile would give them even more trade chips to throw around in a separate swap.

Bleacher Report

Ingram is good. No to Hunter though. Maybe Heurter or JJ though

F*ck, noooope...

I came to say I love Hunter. He plays defense, he shoots every 3 with high possibilities of getting 3 points. He runs the floor, helps with the rebounds, can penetrate aat will gainst almost every team in the league, takes care of the ball and does not need too many shots to score over 15.

Since he came back is playing great and is giving balance to the team.

We maybe need another SF (although Knox is a great fit), but Hunter should be untouchable. I would not trade him for Ingram straight ahead...

For what I see against the Heat we play harder and better with the three man inside rotation of Okongwu, Capela and Collins. If Capela was capable of scoring from 15 feet, what a different team would we be...

[saloonyk8]

Let's say we take on Tobias contract in order to keep Huerter, Hunter and OO... How bad is that contract, 2 years big money?

Trae
KVon
Hunter
Simmons
Capella

Second unit
Harris
OO
Cooper
Delon

Will be easier to move Capella and get a better fit in the summer. How is that not a contending team?

[saloonyk8]

My point is if we can get Simmons and still keep Huerter, OO, and Hunter.... That's a huge win.

There's no way we're moving the needle for a big name star in the future without those 3, so we are still setup to acquire someone in the future if that's needed.

[D21]

Hawks Consolidate, Pelicans Add Depth and Assets



Atlanta Hawks receive: Brandon Ingram

New Orleans Pelicans receive: John Collins, De'Andre Hunter and 2022 first-round pick (top-18 protected, via CHA)

The Hawks had hopped to rev forward after their Eastern Conference Finals breakout, but they've been stuck in neutral all season. Their roster is as deep as any, but they can't afford to keep everyone—they already moved on from 2019 No. 10 pick Cam Reddish—and they have long appeared prime for a consolidation deal.

Snatching Brandon Ingram away from the Zion Williamson-less, going-nowhere-fast Pelicans might be the move to make.

Ingram could shine as Atlanta's second star. He could instantly relieve some of Trae Young's heavy scoring and playmaking duties, and his three-ball (38.6 percent over the past two seasons) would help keep the floor open for the Hawks guard to attack and run pick-and-rolls with Clint Capela. Since Young and Ingram are both on the right side of 25, Atlanta would be poised to remain an Eastern Conference threat for years to come.

New Orleans, meanwhile, could covet better depth in preparation of Williamson's eventual return. A Zion-John Collins frontcourt would rank among the bounciest in basketball, and Collins, who desires a bigger role, could have enough shooting and shot-blocking to cover up Williamson's biggest weaknesses. This would put Jonas Valanciunas on the bench (or the trade block), but the 29-year-old never seemed more than a stopgap solution in the Crescent City.

A healthy De'Andre Hunter is the three-and-D wing New Orleans hopes rookie Trey Murphy III eventually becomes. Finally, putting another first-round pick on the Pelicans' pile would give them even more trade chips to throw around in a separate swap.

Bleacher Report

This one is really a joke, how can it be possible that someone write a thing like that.
"Hawks consolidate"... consolidate what ? the bad defense they had until some games and all our defenders back ?
Seriously, they don't follow the team to write something like that

[Jamaaliver]

Jaylen Brown to the Hawks and 2022 NBA Trade Deadline Deals to Dream About

Atlanta Consolidates in the Best Way



Atlanta Hawks Receive: Jaylen Brown

Boston Celtics Receive: De'Andre Hunter, Kevin Huerter, Bogdan Bogdanovic, 2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets), 2023 first-round pick

As was the case with Siakam and the Raptors, the Hawks will have to pull off quite a sell job to convince Boston that this package is enough to pry loose an All-Star.

It helps that Hunter has shown flashes of being a high-end starter when healthy and that Huerter is the kind of facilitating wing who could get the ball moving in the Celtics' sticky offense. If I'm Boston, I want at least one more first-rounder and a discussion about including Onyeka Okongwu instead of Huerter, who comes with a poison-pill provision in his contract.

It's also true that the Celtics are a smidge over the tax line with their current roster, and they'd have to trim money elsewhere to make this work while staying below the threshold. Dumping Dennis Schroder for picks or paying someone to take Bruno Fernando would be a solid start on that front.

Ultimately, this is about the Hawks turning several good wings into a great one. It's a bit of a shame Cam Reddish already went out in a real-life trade to the New York Knicks; he would have fit nicely in this quantity-for-quality exchange.

Brown's fit with Jayson Tatum has been a topic of some concern for a while now, and it's not ideal that John Collins seems to bristle about Trae Young's ball dominance once a year. Brown might not be keen on joining a player even more shot-happy than his current star teammate.

Does the Brown homecoming angle do anything for you? No? That never matters? Never?!

OK, fine. But still, Brown would give Atlanta a massive upgrade alongside Young and Collins, and the Hawks' recent hot streak may have them feeling confident about another deep playoff run. Now would be a good time to capitalize on that momentum with a bold move.

Bleacher Report

[D21]

Jaylen Brown to the Hawks and 2022 NBA Trade Deadline Deals to Dream About

Atlanta Consolidates in the Best Way



Atlanta Hawks Receive: Jaylen Brown

Boston Celtics Receive: De'Andre Hunter, Kevin Huerter, Bogdan Bogdanovic, 2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets), 2023 first-round pick

As was the case with Siakam and the Raptors, the Hawks will have to pull off quite a sell job to convince Boston that this package is enough to pry loose an All-Star.

It helps that Hunter has shown flashes of being a high-end starter when healthy and that Huerter is the kind of facilitating wing who could get the ball moving in the Celtics' sticky offense. If I'm Boston, I want at least one more first-rounder and a discussion about including Onyeka Okongwu instead of Huerter, who comes with a poison-pill provision in his contract.

It's also true that the Celtics are a smidge over the tax line with their current roster, and they'd have to trim money elsewhere to make this work while staying below the threshold. Dumping Dennis Schroder for picks or paying someone to take Bruno Fernando would be a solid start on that front.

Ultimately, this is about the Hawks turning several good wings into a great one. It's a bit of a shame Cam Reddish already went out in a real-life trade to the New York Knicks; he would have fit nicely in this quantity-for-quality exchange.

Brown's fit with Jayson Tatum has been a topic of some concern for a while now, and it's not ideal that John Collins seems to bristle about Trae Young's ball dominance once a year. Brown might not be keen on joining a player even more shot-happy than his current star teammate.

Does the Brown homecoming angle do anything for you? No? That never matters? Never?!

OK, fine. But still, Brown would give Atlanta a massive upgrade alongside Young and Collins, and the Hawks' recent hot streak may have them feeling confident about another deep playoff run. Now would be a good time to capitalize on that momentum with a bold move.

Bleacher Report

I'm asking myself what Dre, Kevin and Bogi think of that kind of article...
Seriously, yes it would be good to have him in the starting lineup, but it means we are loosing our starting SF and best defensive wing, our starting SG and best NET rating player of this season, and our new bench leader. 2 of these 3 shot better at 3pts than Brown... and it would immediately put pressure on Trae if he's surrounded by less good shooters, and he would have less options to pass the ball.
And they get 2 first round picks...

I'm sorry but I think it's stupid, and mainly stupid because it's the middle of season, and you can't do want you want to adjust the roster after a trade like this.
It's the kind of trade a team can make in the summer, with other trade or signing other players. But now, NO

[tbhawksfan1]

Maybe I'm a Hawks homer but I absomutely hate every Bleacher report Hawk's trade.

I've been thinking about J Brown with a little Sabonis though. Something like JC, BB, Gallo, JJ and picks for the two

[Spud2nique]

I’m a huge Jaylen guy but Hunter, Huerter, Bogi AND 2 firsts? That’s not consolidated that’s resuscitating (the Celtics).

I wouldn’t even give 2/3 of the aforementioned guys with 2 picks.

I kind of like our core.

[HMFFL]

I’m a huge Jaylen guy but Hunter, Huerter, Bogi AND 2 firsts? That’s not consolidated that’s resuscitating (the Celtics).

I wouldn’t even give 2/3 of the aforementioned guys with 2 picks.

I kind of like our core.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brown isn't a superstar, and is more of a star talent, correct? It seems like a great deal to offer.

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[CP War Hawks]

A new projected cap of 121 million and LT threshold of 147 million has just been announced. Even when you renounce Gallo, the Hawks will be committing 130 million of salary going into 2022.

I think the Hawks will be buying low looking for a replacement for Cam/Solo to spell Hunter. I think they are content with Wright going into the postseason...

With that said, I think the under the radar targets could be guys that have size, can defend, and are relatively cheap. Josh Jackson, Kenyon Martin Jr., David Nwaba, Justin Holiday, Torrey Craig, Batum, Jake Layman, Harkless, someone along these tiers.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Mention that Atlanta (along with Dallas, LAC, Milwaukee) has interest in Schroder and Boston needs a backup pg or shooter coming back..

[jayu70]

Mention that Atlanta (along with Dallas, LAC, Milwaukee) has interest in Schroder and Boston needs a backup pg or shooter coming back..

That would be surprising seeing Schroeder as a target for Atlanta. I don't see a backup PG or shooter available on the Hawks roster for Dennis.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Mention that Atlanta (along with Dallas, LAC, Milwaukee) has interest in Schroder and Boston needs a backup pg or shooter coming back..

That would be surprising seeing Schroeder as a target for Atlanta. I don't see a backup PG or shooter available on the Hawks roster for Dennis.

Neither do I, that's why I mentioned it.. the only possibility would be Huerter into Boston's TPE and Schroder and more going back to Atlanta & I don't understand that for either team