2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

(Jamie Jacquez) has a green room invite... Cr: pedroksbambino

[fishdoctor]

Trace Jackson-Davis at #35 could be a great pickup if he's there.

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Hell yeah! If TJD were miraculously still available at #35, Brad simply MUST draft him - a total steal at that spot. As an IU alum who follows the Hoosiers very closely, I've seen a whole lot of this kid over the past few seasons with IU. He carried that team - One of the best (if not the best) player in the Big Ten this season and continued to improve his game everyone season. He's got a bright NBA future and a strong pedigree to help facilitate his success in the NBA (Dad is Dale Davis from the 90's Pacer team). My 2 cents

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Trace Jackson-Davis at #35 could be a great pickup if he's there.

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Nice. I'd say John Collins with more defensive upside?

Kind of. I can see how you thought of Collins - the size, the way they're built and the way they move, with some bounce and athleticism.

But TJD literally cannot shoot the ball at all. That's the major difference between them. Collins can shoot a bit in the mid range and from 3.

TJD has more defensive upside, like you said - but is also a MUCH better passer. TJD is a true offensive hub from the high post, elbows, etc. He's a REALLY good passing big, and he can push/handle the ball in the open floor.

He's just a little bit undersized at the 5, but I'm not too worried about that. We're seeing more and more small ball 5's these days - TJD could be a really solid small ball 5.

He doesn't shoot and he's old (23 yrs old) which limits his upside a little bit.

I like him, though. Could be a really solid pick for us. I checked a few mocks yesterday though and it seems like most of them have him going in the 29-32 range, so there's a good chance he will be off the board before our pick..

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Trace Jackson-Davis at #35 could be a great pickup if he's there.

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Hell yeah! If TJD were miraculously still available at #35, Brad simply MUST draft him - a total steal at that spot. As an IU alum who follows the Hoosiers very closely, I've seen a whole lot of this kid over the past few seasons with IU. He carried that team - One of the best (if not the best) player in the Big Ten this season and continued to improve his game everyone season. He's got a bright NBA future and a strong pedigree to help facilitate his success in the NBA (Dad is Dale Davis from the 90's Pacer team). My 2 cents

What do you think of him defensively?

[threrf23]

I think you could make a good case for TJD going top 10, based on solid, consistent production over four years and the lack of red flags in scouting reports.

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to trading into the first round if he's available late lottery or beyond. But if he's somehow still available at 35, there's a reason for it, and I'm inclined to pass on the guy.

I guess he wouldn't be the first to fall cause people viewed him as an undersized 5, tho. I think he seems comparable to Bam in terms of strengths and weaknesses, he is less imposing but may have more upside from a skill standpoint.

[playa-hater]

Not a fan. For whatever reason, he looks like the most milquetoast boring player I ever saw. Not one thing jumps out about him. No one thing it looks like he does very well. Average athlete. It would make total sense that he would be our choice.

Prob just don't like Mexicans i bet.

Seriously though guy is the leader in defensive win shares in the entire NCAA and people are like he prob sucks on D and there's nothing he's good at.

Yeah that's it. Mexicans...that's my problems.

Nothing lends credibility to your points quite like pulling bigotry out of your ass because I dare not be interested in Jacquez. Not sure what your problem is with me bro but you can simply hit the ignore button.

I agree with bucknersrevenge. Being Pretty good at everything in college but doesn't appear to have any one special asset that makes you say, this is the guy. Especially if picking as late as 35.. Might as well swing for the fences with someone that actually has a higher ceiling. Something that you can hang your hat on. Shooting potential of defensive potential. Or a Bigman defensive rebounder or anchor etc..

Doesn't mean Jacquez isn't a gamer and won't do better than expected. But really has a look of Meh about him IMO. I'd rather chance elsewhere myself

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Prob just don't like Mexicans i bet.

Seriously though guy is the leader in defensive win shares in the entire NCAA and people are like he prob sucks on D and there's nothing he's good at.

Yeah that's it. Mexicans...that's my problems.

Nothing lends credibility to your points quite like pulling bigotry out of your ass because I dare not be interested in Jacquez. Not sure what your problem is with me bro but you can simply hit the ignore button.

I agree with bucknersrevenge. Being Pretty good at everything in college but doesn't appear to have any one special asset that makes you say, this is the guy. Especially if picking as late as 35.. Might as well swing for the fences with someone that actually has a higher ceiling. Something that you can hang your hat on. Shooting potential of defensive potential. Or a Bigman defensive rebounder or anchor etc..

Doesn't mean Jacquez isn't a gamer and won't do better than expected. But really has a look of Meh about him IMO. I'd rather chance elsewhere myself

Just saw the prior reply - man people are sensitive lol. Take a joke folks.

[Curmudgeon]

He's going to go undrafted, but I predict that Drew Peterson will have a better NBA career than most of the players drafted this year in the 30's.

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I think you could make a good case for TJD going top 10, based on solid, consistent production over four years and the lack of red flags in scouting reports.

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to trading into the first round if he's available late lottery or beyond. But if he's somehow still available at 35, there's a reason for it, and I'm inclined to pass on the guy.

I guess he wouldn't be the first to fall cause people viewed him as an undersized 5, tho. I think he seems comparable to Bam in terms of strengths and weaknesses, he is less imposing but may have more upside from a skill standpoint.

Sure, there's some similarities to Bam. But Bam can actually hit the mid range jump shot pretty well - TJD can't hit jumpers at all from anywhere. Plus, Bam is quicker, more tenacious defensively. And he was 3 years younger when he was drafted than TJD.

Add it all up and it's tough to make the comparison.

I do think TJ has a shot to have a solid NBA career though and would definitely be cool with it if we drafted him at 35.

[djFan71]

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[bisme37]

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Updated Bleacher report mock, just posted. With intel and where the prospects might go by Wasserman:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10080062-brs-final-2023-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions

When I look at this, I think "if we move up into the late 1st round by moving Pritchard, ok great. But if not, I'm fine with staying at 35. There's some REALLY good players still on the board at 35 in this mock. But if Brad really has his sights set on someone else and is convinced there's someone else in that late 1st round range who is THE guy, then sure, make the trade and get him"

If these are the first 34 picks, I'm either taking GG Jackson, Sidy Cissoko or TJD. I think all 3 of them are 1st round talents.

Hell, even Andre Jackson (who they have us taking in this mock) wouldn't be a terrible pick - neither would Mo Gueye. Even Kobe Brown or Strawther would be a decent pick.

[djFan71]

Updated Bleacher report mock, just posted. With intel and where the prospects might go by Wasserman:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10080062-brs-final-2023-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions

When I look at this, I think "if we move up into the late 1st round by moving Pritchard, ok great. But if not, I'm fine with staying at 35. There's some REALLY good players still on the board at 35 in this mock. But if Brad really has his sights set on someone else and is convinced there's someone else in that late 1st round range who is THE guy, then sure, make the trade and get him"

If these are the first 34 picks, I'm either taking GG Jackson, Sidy Cissoko or TJD. I think all 3 of them are 1st round talents.

Hell, even Andre Jackson (who they have us taking in this mock) wouldn't be a terrible pick - neither would Mo Gueye. Even Kobe Brown or Strawther would be a decent pick.

Walsh at 27 hurts to my core.

[Larry_Russell]

I want Whitehead.

Bad.

[bucknersrevenge]

Yeah that's it. Mexicans...that's my problems.

Nothing lends credibility to your points quite like pulling bigotry out of your ass because I dare not be interested in Jacquez. Not sure what your problem is with me bro but you can simply hit the ignore button.

I agree with bucknersrevenge. Being Pretty good at everything in college but doesn't appear to have any one special asset that makes you say, this is the guy. Especially if picking as late as 35.. Might as well swing for the fences with someone that actually has a higher ceiling. Something that you can hang your hat on. Shooting potential of defensive potential. Or a Bigman defensive rebounder or anchor etc..

Doesn't mean Jacquez isn't a gamer and won't do better than expected. But really has a look of Meh about him IMO. I'd rather chance elsewhere myself

Just saw the prior reply - man people are sensitive lol. Take a joke folks.

Maybe I don't know you that well yet to know if your humor is mine. There are posters here who if they would've posted that to me I might've taken it as a joke. No disrespect, but you are not one of them. And on a Forum where context is often muted, I tend to shy away from the "bigotry as a joke" deal because you often can't tell how serious people are. There are posters here who if they had made such a comment I would absolutely take it at face value.

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I agree with bucknersrevenge. Being Pretty good at everything in college but doesn't appear to have any one special asset that makes you say, this is the guy. Especially if picking as late as 35.. Might as well swing for the fences with someone that actually has a higher ceiling. Something that you can hang your hat on. Shooting potential of defensive potential. Or a Bigman defensive rebounder or anchor etc..

Doesn't mean Jacquez isn't a gamer and won't do better than expected. But really has a look of Meh about him IMO. I'd rather chance elsewhere myself

Just saw the prior reply - man people are sensitive lol. Take a joke folks.

Maybe I don't know you that well yet to know if your humor is mine. There are posters here who if they would've posted that to me I might've taken it as a joke. No disrespect, but you are not one of them. And on a Forum where context is often muted, I tend to shy away from the "bigotry as a joke" deal because you often can't tell how serious people are. There are posters here who if they had made such a comment I would absolutely take it at face value.

It’s all good bro prob did come off to harsh even at that.

[captain green]

I swear I'll be livid if we draft a pg or sg. This is first year i didn't do no draft analysis on basketball at all.
I'm not sold on a lot of decisions being made so I guess I just need to recharge.

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I want Whitehead.

Bad.

I wouldn't hate it if we picked him. But he's projected to go in the 22-30 range.

There's rumors that we could trade up into the late 1st round. But I don't really see us moving up in the draft to take a guy like Whitehead. He's a wing scorer. Decent defender, decent passer but not particularly good at either of those things. Has had issues with his ball handling. Factoring all of that in, I'm not sure he's a great fit on a team that's led by Tatum and Brown. Especially when you add in the injury concern (just had his 2nd foot surgery in less than a year). I'd be more likely to swing on Whitehead if we traded JB (for like Zion, Trae, Siakam or something).

But with both Jays still here, idk. He's definitely a very good shooter which is a plus.

I'd probably take him if he's still there at 35 (doesn't seem that he will be) but I don't think I would trade up to get him.

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Woah, very interesting read.

https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/nba-draft-rumors-prosper-jaquez/

Kalela's dream might come true!

Rumor has it, the rockets are looking to trade the 20th pick. It makes sense - they already have tons of young kids they're trying to develop, plus they'll add another one with the 4th pick.

Plus, Houston needs more shooting. And Pritchard played some of his best basketball with Udoka as coach. Udoka is obviously now the rockets coach.

Prosper has a good mindset:

“The biggest thing is just being myself,” he said, “and what I mean by that is going out there with a mindset of controlling what I can control being the hardest worker out there, doing what I do best, showing my defensive versatility, showing my improved shooting, showing my ability to play in transition. Showing the way I have conducted myself, the way I have been in interviews and all that stuff—just being myself. And believing that I am better than a lot of guys who, at the time, were ahead of me. That’s how I have been able to build myself up.”

Article says we are trying to trade into the 1st round. We had Prosper in for a workout. We're also interested in Jaquez..

[bucknersrevenge]

Just saw the prior reply - man people are sensitive lol. Take a joke folks.

Maybe I don't know you that well yet to know if your humor is mine. There are posters here who if they would've posted that to me I might've taken it as a joke. No disrespect, but you are not one of them. And on a Forum where context is often muted, I tend to shy away from the "bigotry as a joke" deal because you often can't tell how serious people are. There are posters here who if they had made such a comment I would absolutely take it at face value.

It’s all good bro prob did come off to harsh even at that.

It's alright my guy. Appreciate your understanding. You and I have bumped heads a couple of times in here but you've always seemed like a reasonable dude.