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[Prokorov]

Actually no. It was a process called BleachBit which deletes old files then over-writes the drives many times with new data. I think people assumed that they put actual bleach or acid on the drives which wasn't the case. But they did put hammers to those drives so can you blame some folks for taking the bleach terminology literally?

In any case, this was obvious obstruction of justice and crooked Hillary should be in jail if not for her Deep State.

What does hillary have to do with anything? does hillary being awful and shady as hell mean that trump isnt a racist idiot?

what does anything hillary did do to change the actions of trump?

This is a political forum, not a Trump forum. But of course you guys will only focus on one thing. So who's the true racist here?

what is racist about a white guy hating trump? if you want to talk hilary im all for that. she is a shady mofo. the discussion was on trump, you dont actually defend trump though you just point t someone else who breaks laws

[Prokorov]

Btw, CNN calls the murderer an undocumented immigrant, rather than an illegal alien. What a cuck of a network. The left are so friggin dumb they'll do anything to blindly defend their narrative.

you are a racist. you have no legs to stand on calling out anyone else. you hate minorities we get it, most racists do as well.

Wrong. I am an immigrant. I work with minorities every day. I teach minorities daily and these are people of status, not kids. You are late to the party, I've already been through all this before. I think I know who the true racists are, the ones that are so fixated on Trump and race that they see everyting as Black and White.

lol, thats almost as good as the "im not racist, i have a black friend line"

remeber when we heard cops couldnt be racist because they work to protect civilians?

you support trump, you are a proven racsit. period.

[13th Man]

Yes. Researching before criticizing and thinking before yelling is are foreign concepts to those who took the bleach terminology literally.

You are right, however the result remains the same. Tampering with evidence during an investigation is an obstruction of justice and highly illegal. Hillary had her team take hammers to Blackberrys and wipe out data from hard drives. While these are good security practices used when disposing of no longer used equipment and information, how does she get away scot-free by doing this DURING an investigation where they have demanded to see information on these devices??

[Prokorov]

hey racist bigot...ICE doesn't patrol our borders. Google "US Border Patrol", a department that has been in operation since the mid 1920s and take a **** ing seat, you sound seriously stupid right now.

You are seriously giving Canadians a bad name with your unhinged postings. You sound uneducated and devoid of all critical thinking skills. You just parrot alt right talking points.


And again, you are borderline trolling this board with this leftist nonsense. Antfifa isn't posting on the Real GM Nets forum dude go take that **** elsewhere.

ICE helps with the deportation of illegal aliens idiot.

Hey racist. Stick to what you know which is anything race related or anti-Trump. Everybody knows who the true racist is here. I teach International people every day? What do you do besides obsess over anything race-related? Just like much of the left, you are a major hypocrite. People in glass houses should not be throwing stones. Racist hypocrite.

The problem is that ICE does nothing unique. There are multiple other law enforcement organizations that deport undocumented immigrants.

Why can't you admit that ICE is truly a redundant waste of tax payer dollars?

I also don't understand why conservatives are so obsessed with illegal immigration. There's just no logic behind it. These people come here, work hard, commit crimes less often than the general population, pay taxes and don't receive any kind of benefits outside of emergency care and public schooling for their children. It really is an injustice that conservative media outlets have brainwashed millions of people into thinking that illegal immigration is anything but a minor issue.

because they are ignorant and following the narrivite of rich white billionaire racists.

illegal immigrants for the most part would love to come here legally and documented, most dont have that option and are escaping death, facism, corruption, war, etc... what happened to "give us your poor, your sick" americans are fat lazt a-holes with no compassion who think they know everything cause they read a meme on twitter

[Prokorov]

This is a political forum, not a Trump forum. But of course you guys will only focus on one thing. So who's the true racist here?

Prokorov asks a fair question. What does Hillary Clinton have to do with the CURRENT topics of the day of Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort being convicted and Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen pleading guilty?

This obviously points out a major bias. While Hillary's crimes were a case of obstruction of justice, it appeared to be overlooked while they nail both Manafort and Cohen to things totally unrelated. Hillary destroying hard drives was far more relevant to the political matte on hand and she basically got a way scot-free. Deep State in play.

again, who disagree that Hillary should face punishment for any crimes she committed? you wont find hillary support here.

what does that have to do with crimes trump or people close to him have or may have committed?

[13th Man]

you are a racist. you have no legs to stand on calling out anyone else. you hate minorities we get it, most racists do as well.

Wrong. I am an immigrant. I work with minorities every day. I teach minorities daily and these are people of status, not kids. You are late to the party, I've already been through all this before. I think I know who the true racists are, the ones that are so fixated on Trump and race that they see everyting as Black and White.

lol, thats almost as good as the "im not racist, i have a black friend line"

remeber when we heard cops couldnt be racist because they work to protect civilians?

you support trump, you are a proven racsit. period.

This is where your logic fails badly because you only see it as black and white which is a shame. Voting for one person does not paint everybody with the same brush. You have the opinion that half of America are racists, that's hogwash. As I've proven over and over here, I have issues with many topics which has nothing to do with race, but then there are others on here that only touch on race-related issues and are calling out others as racists. Something doesn't smell right.

[13th Man]

Prokorov asks a fair question. What does Hillary Clinton have to do with the CURRENT topics of the day of Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort being convicted and Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen pleading guilty?

This obviously points out a major bias. While Hillary's crimes were a case of obstruction of justice, it appeared to be overlooked while they nail both Manafort and Cohen to things totally unrelated. Hillary destroying hard drives was far more relevant to the political matte on hand and she basically got a way scot-free. Deep State in play.

again, who disagree that Hillary should face punishment for any crimes she committed? you wont find hillary support here.

what does that have to do with crimes trump or people close to him have or may have committed?

It demonstrates a two-tiered justice system where it is deeply corrupt, being in favour of one political party and having an extreme bias against the other. They are nailing Trump associates to the cross with crimes totally unrelated to Russian collusion while having turned a blind eye to much more serious political related crimes that were committed by Hillary.

[13th Man]

you are a racist. you have no legs to stand on calling out anyone else. you hate minorities we get it, most racists do as well.

Wrong. I am an immigrant. I work with minorities every day. I teach minorities daily and these are people of status, not kids. You are late to the party, I've already been through all this before. I think I know who the true racists are, the ones that are so fixated on Trump and race that they see everyting as Black and White.

lol, thats almost as good as the "im not racist, i have a black friend line"

remeber when we heard cops couldnt be racist because they work to protect civilians?

you support trump, you are a proven racsit. period.

The difference is that most of my friends aren't even white. My boss is white and is a racist because he actually makes stereotypical comments on certain nationalities which I've called him out on them before and since then he knows to tread lightly around me.

I suppose you think that all cops are racists as well right? This narrative have been engrained into your minds that all Trump supporters and cops are racists.

[MrDollarBills]

Pay your taxes folks. If not, Mueller will be after you! Especially if you have ties to Trump.

Remember the likes of Al Sharpton? Charlie Rango? Tom Daschel? Obama campaign got caught for reporting violations for over $200M. All of these are tax cheats but what happened to them? Nothing, no jail time.

No, there's no bias here at all.

What about when Hillary and co. took hammers to computer hard drives and acid washed them? No, nothing to see there! Let's focus on 15 year old tax returns instead!

Please for the delight of everyone, elaborate on "acid washed" e-mails. What is it, what's the process, who said Clinton did such a practice, and has it been done before?

Actually no. It was a process called BleachBit which deletes old files then over-writes the drives many times with new data. I think people assumed that they put actual bleach or acid on the drives which wasn't the case. But they did put hammers to those drives so can you blame some folks for taking the bleach terminology literally?

In any case, this was obvious obstruction of justice and crooked Hillary should be in jail if not for her Deep State.

This is coming from someone who is not a fan of Hillary Clinton because of what was done to the black community in the 90s at the hands of her husbands policies (which she was a champion of) and what the Obama Administration did to Libya.

You have NO evidence for this. NONE.

You sound like **** ing Alex Jones dude.

Crimes are being committed in real time by the Trump Administration, people who worked for his campaign are being indicted and convicted left and right and you're up in here trying to push garbage.

[MrDollarBills]

Wrong. I am an immigrant. I work with minorities every day. I teach minorities daily and these are people of status, not kids. You are late to the party, I've already been through all this before. I think I know who the true racists are, the ones that are so fixated on Trump and race that they see everyting as Black and White.

lol, thats almost as good as the "im not racist, i have a black friend line"

remeber when we heard cops couldnt be racist because they work to protect civilians?

you support trump, you are a proven racsit. period.

The difference is that most of my friends aren't even white. My boss is white and is a racist because he actually makes stereotypical comments on certain nationalities which I've called him out on them before and since then he knows to tread lightly around me.

I suppose you think that all cops are racists as well right? This narrative have been engrained into your minds that all Trump supporters and cops are racists.

Of course not all cops are racist. That doesn't mean that there isn't a serious problem in OUR country (not yours...why you continue to act like you have a **** ing clue about America is laughable) with racist cops killing minorities at a disproportion rate. i LITERALLY posted a video several posts back showing a cop with his gun drawn on an unarmed black man telling him that the reason his gun was pulled out is because that man wasn't white.

Again. Sit down dude.

[MrDollarBills]

Yes. Researching before criticizing and thinking before yelling is are foreign concepts to those who took the bleach terminology literally.

You are right, however the result remains the same. Tampering with evidence during an investigation is an obstruction of justice and highly illegal. Hillary had her team take hammers to Blackberrys and wipe out data from hard drives. While these are good security practices used when disposing of no longer used equipment and information, how does she get away scot-free by doing this DURING an investigation where they have demanded to see information on these devices??

YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THIS.

[Rich Rane]

This obviously points out a major bias. While Hillary's crimes were a case of obstruction of justice, it appeared to be overlooked while they nail both Manafort and Cohen to things totally unrelated. Hillary destroying hard drives was far more relevant to the political matte on hand and she basically got a way scot-free. Deep State in play.

Once again, it was not overlooked. She was investigated several times and questioned for 11 hours by a Republican majority committee and she was still not charged with anything. Stop ignoring that fact.

You are right, however the result remains the same. Tampering with evidence during an investigation is an obstruction of justice and highly illegal. Hillary had her team take hammers to Blackberrys and wipe out data from hard drives. While these are good security practices used when disposing of no longer used equipment and information, how does she get away scot-free by doing this DURING an investigation where they have demanded to see information on these devices??

Again, talk to your Republican heroes for failing to do anything about that. The fact is that even they found no wrongdoing.

They are nailing Trump associates to the cross with crimes totally unrelated to Russian collusion while having turned a blind eye to much more serious political related crimes that were committed by Hillary.

This is funny when Trump supporters complain about this because Hillary Clinton would never have been investigated for e-mails had it not been for an investigation into Benghazi. Republicans also couldn't find any wrongdoing in that investigation either.

[Rich Rane]

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Cohen was the only guy that would take Trump after numerous legal teams either left him or declined.

[MrDollarBills]

Wow. All of these charges against Manafort and Cohen. Next: Michael Flynn.

BREAKING NEWS!! And what do any of these charges have what to do with Russian Collusion? ZILCH! NADA!

Good job Mueller, Russian Collusion Probe success!

Once again, you do reqlize Mueller's investigation is ongiong, right? Just because Trump is very well connected to a man that is pleading guilty to campaign finance federal law among other charges doesn't mean Mueller's investigation is finished nor should it clear anyone from collusion.

It's been a year and a half. Still waiting on any evidence of collusion. It should be apparent that they are bullying and trying to squeeze the balls of anyone related to Trump. Still nothing on Trump after all this time what gives?

The real Russian collusion stems from the DNC, Fusion GPS and their Russian contacts. Where is the investigation there? No, there's no bias at all from the Mueller team.

Investigating and convicting criminals of committed multiple crimes is "bullying"?

are you a child? what is wrong with you? if you or I commit crimes we will go to jail. what makes Manafort, Flynn, Papadapolous and the other several men who have been charged any different?

and the argument that the Russians colluded with the Democrats is laughable because it is an established fact that the Trump campaign had multiple contacts with The Russian government, intelligence services and military leading up to the 2016 election surrounding issues including hacked DNC emails, foreign policy discussions while another President was in office (which is ILLEGAL), trying to set up backdoor networking channels with the Russian government that would subvert all stand procedures of contact with foreign governments (which is espionage, a capital crime which can get you strapped to an executioner's table and a needle put into your arm in this country). This doesn't even include what was going on with the RNC/NRA and Maria Butina, a Russian agent of influence working directly for the Kremlin.

And one last time. Fusion GPS/Christopher Steele were hired initially by REPUBLICANS to do opposition research on Donald Trump. The GOP dropped the efforts and the Democrats picked up on and continued it. That is not illegal. Christopher Steele's research into Trump's Russian ties were so alarming that out of duty to his country he went right to the FBI because Britain and America are allies and he had to make them aware of what was found. There was nothing illegal done by doing any of this.

Mueller was tasked with investigating the intrusion of Russia in our election process and he has the authority to investigate and prosecute any crimes that are uncovered regardless if they tie into Russia or not. Mueller uncovered multiple crimes committed by Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, etc and he's holding them to account. He has already indicted several Russian intelligence officers who were involved with the DNC/RNC hacks and Trump associate Roger Stone is already on record with dealing with two Russian military intel officers who were posing as an online hacker named Guccifer 2 in order to get DNC emails. The stuff you're seeing people getting locked up for is preliminary. Mueller is laying this all out piece by piece so don't worry, we'll get to the Russia stuff when Manafort's trial for Conspiracy to Defraud The United States of America begins. Also, when Donald Trump Jr., Roger Stone, and Jared Kushner end up getting indicted you will be in for a world of despair.

So any day now....Hillary Clinton will be going to jail. Keep thinking that cupcake.

[MrDollarBills]

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Cohen was the only guy that would take Trump after numerous legal teams either left him or declined.

haha...do a bit of reading into Cohen. He's got a legal degree but he's not really a lawyer. He's a mob fixer.

Anyway...notice the language that Trump uses about "flipping" and in other tweets where he called John Dean (Nixon's WH Lawyer who snitched on him) a "RAT".

These are not the words of a man who is innocent.

[MrDollarBills]

Also, I love how someone who called gay people defective/abnormal and said god awful things about transgender people wants to start calling everyone else around him racists because we're pointing out the fact that he supports a man who is a full blown racist. FOH.

[MrDollarBills]

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https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784

President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign was fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for campaign reporting violations — one of the largest fees ever levied against a presidential campaign, POLITICO has learned.

The fine — laid out in detail in FEC documents that have yet to be made public — arose from an audit of the campaign, which was published in April. POLITICO obtained a copy of the conciliation agreement detailing the fine, which was sent to Sean Cairncross, the chief lawyer for the Republican National Committee, one of the groups that filed complaints about the campaign’s FEC reporting from 2008

The major sticking point for the FEC appeared to be a series of missing 48-hour notices for nearly 1,300 contributions totaling more than $1.8 million — an issue that lawyers familiar with the commission’s work say the FEC takes seriously. The notices must be filed on contributions of $1,000 or more that are received within the 20-day window of Election Day.

For critics of the Obama campaign, the audit was a reminder of other reporting errors by the 2008 effort, which campaign officials said they tried to correct in real-time. But independent experts, including former FEC commissioner Michael Toner, said after the audit was released that the infractions were relatively minor, given the scope of the campaign.

Trump is trying to equate the above to him directing his lawyer to use campaign funds to pay off hush money to women. The above incident, which was resolved by the book by Obama's campaign (because you know, Obama is not a criminal) is not a felony crime. What Cohen implicated Trump in yesterday in federal court is.

All of this whataboutism only works on people who can't think critically.

This is exactly why Mueller deferred this matter to FBI SDNY. There is no escape from any of this. Conspiracy, Obstruction of Justice, Campaign finance felonies, and god help him if Mueller is investigating where he was getting his money from after US lenders stopped loaning him money.

[13th Man]

Dershowitz: Cohen Plea ‘Not Nearly as Deadly, Lethal’ as It Looks — ‘Every Administration Violates the Election Laws’


“Violation of election laws are regarded as kind of jaywalking in the realm of things about elections,” Dershowitz told Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson. “Every administration violates the election laws, every candidate violates the election laws when they run for president.”

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So this is the smoking gun that Mueller has been working so hard at, which will impeach the president? They initially sought after murder but may end up with a jaywalking infraction. Impeach!

[Rich Rane]

Dershowitz: Cohen Plea ‘Not Nearly as Deadly, Lethal’ as It Looks — ‘Every Administration Violates the Election Laws’


“Violation of election laws are regarded as kind of jaywalking in the realm of things about elections,” Dershowitz told Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson. “Every administration violates the election laws, every candidate violates the election laws when they run for president.”

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So this is the smoking gun that Mueller has been working so hard at, which will impeach the president? They initially sought after murder but may end up with a jaywalking infraction. Impeach!

So is this an admission from you that Trump broke campaign finance laws?

[MrDollarBills]

Dershowitz: Cohen Plea ‘Not Nearly as Deadly, Lethal’ as It Looks — ‘Every Administration Violates the Election Laws’


“Violation of election laws are regarded as kind of jaywalking in the realm of things about elections,” Dershowitz told Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson. “Every administration violates the election laws, every candidate violates the election laws when they run for president.”

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So this is the smoking gun that Mueller has been working so hard at, which will impeach the president? They initially sought after murder but may end up with a jaywalking infraction. Impeach!

a few things:

1) Robert Mueller has little to do with this. His investigation uncovered multiple crimes committed by Michael Cohen. He then referred the case over to FBI SDNY for further investigation and prosecution. This was out of his hands months ago.

2) You're helplessly clueless.

3) Please provide evidence that Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama used campaign finances to pay off hush money to an adult film actress and a playboy model via shell companies, which is a felony. I'll wait.


Its funny as hell. A few days ago when Peter Strzok got fired you were on here bragging about how this is a witch hunt that will end up with Mueller finding nothing blah blah blah. Within less than a week after that Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen are now both convicted felons, one of whom directly implicated Trump as a co conspirator in several crimes and the heat is now on. Now you're basically admitting that you are in open support of a racist criminal. Too funny