2023 Draft Discussion Part 4

Post #1361 » by **niQ** » Mon May 15, 2023 2:46 pm

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023 (Updated)

Lord_Zedd · Post #1362 » by **Lord_Zedd** » Mon May 15, 2023 2:53 pm

720 wrote:Tomorrow is a big day. If we don’t move up (which we likely won’t, thanks Bobby and Masai). Then we have to root for the Blazers or Dallas to get to that 3-4 spot. With those two teams they might look for a trade out of the lottery in that range for real talent to surround Lillard or Luka, those two teams also wouldn’t likely want Scoot since they already have two ball dominant guards. Fingers crossed Masai sees the vision and offers them Siakam if this scenario comes about.

Houston is looking real spicy if Harden signs there. They'll want another star to pair with him.

KillaSham23 · Post #1363 » by **KillaSham23** » Mon May 15, 2023 3:06 pm

niQ wrote:https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023 (Updated)

NBA draft.net's mocks haven't been opening for me for the last couple of days

Kevin Willis · Post #1364 » by **Kevin Willis** » Mon May 15, 2023 3:08 pm

KillaSham23 wrote:
niQ wrote:https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023 (Updated)

NBA draft.net's mocks haven't been opening for me for the last couple of days

They have us taking Jarace Walker. Unexpected.

dozo · Post #1365 » by **dozo** » Mon May 15, 2023 3:32 pm

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Dalek · Post #1366 » by **Dalek** » Mon May 15, 2023 3:33 pm

Looks like Bobi Klintman got a promise. I am guessing with Raptor's and OKC's track record one of us gave the promise:

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He fits our prototype being a larger 6'10 ballhandling wing. The jump shot looks good - getting Keegan Murray vibes from him, but obviously he is more raw playing less basketball - was a former soccer player. Over his final 11 games, Klintman was playing 29 minutes a night and averaging 8.5 points, 7.2 rebounds, and shooting 41% from 3 with 1.3 blocks per game.

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I am a little concerned that he cannot finish that well at the rim, and he isn't a super athlete to fit the system, but he seems like he has good feel and in Sweden he had a much bigger roll as a handler (over 5 assists per game - 17.7 PPG, 11 RPG & 5.7 APG in 3 wins)

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The fact we are looking to workout Miranda could point to Toronto checking under every rock for the next Giannis.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1367 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon May 15, 2023 3:48 pm

Klintman #14 on KOC big board

Dalek · Post #1368 » by **Dalek** » Mon May 15, 2023 4:06 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Klintman #14 on KOC big board

Woah! I could see some momentum for him. I mean if you are a team with multiple firsts there is a liklihood you take a high upside flyer on Klintman. Teams like Utah and Indy have 3 firsts. Either way, he has been getting enough feedback that he isn't doing the Combine.

deeps6x · Post #1369 » by **deeps6x** » Mon May 15, 2023 4:08 pm

Tofubeque wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:Little part of me (cue Jim Carrey meme) that's still holding onto minor hope that we're gonna fluke into the top 4 again on Tuesday.

I wonder what the most unlikely b2b lottery results in history were. Magic in 92 and 93 moved up from 2nd then 11th, 15.2% then 1.5%

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the most unlikely 'possible' lottery results would be the four teams with the lowest odds all moving up into the top four right? It might be a trillion to one shot though.

I hope we move up, but even that is very unlikely.

Is the lottery even being broadcast on TSN or SportsNet today?

Yallbecrazy · Post #1370 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Mon May 15, 2023 4:26 pm

Besides the Raptors themselves, which teams winning the lottery could make a young quality big man available via trade for us? Houston would probably have to trade Sengun or Jabari Smith right?

If the Raptors or any one #11 or after get a top 4 pick that means Dallas loses theirs I think( if they don't also move up) which would also be hilarious and awesome.

grant101 · Post #1371 » by **grant101** » Mon May 15, 2023 4:37 pm

Dalek wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Klintman #14 on KOC big board

Woah! I could see some momentum for him. I mean if you are a team with multiple firsts there is a liklihood you take a high upside flyer on Klintman. Teams like Utah and Indy have 3 firsts. Either way, he has been getting enough feedback that he isn't doing the Combine.

Don't think he would have pulled out of the combine before the lotto if it were us. OKC has a history of doing this, and Orlando picked up Caleb Houston last year when he pulled out under similar circumstances... then again, this may be wish-casting cause there are so many better options likely to be available at 13.

dozo · Post #1372 » by **dozo** » Mon May 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:Besides the Raptors themselves, which teams winning the lottery could make a young quality big man available via trade for us? Houston would probably have to trade Sengun or Jabari Smith right?

If the Raptors or any one #11 or after get a top 4 pick that means Dallas loses theirs I think( if they don't also move up) which would also be hilarious and awesome.

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If we dont hear the raptors @ 14th or 13th we move up to the 4 spot.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #1373 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Mon May 15, 2023 5:15 pm

I don't see anything more than role player upside for Klintman. He has a nice stroke but he's lacking in many areas. Already 20 years old. The question you need to be asking yourself is will his defense be good enough to allow him to stay on the floor as a stretch big shooting specialist in the NBA. Not worth the investment for a guy who could likely only max out as a bench player.

Post #1374 » by **niQ** » Mon May 15, 2023 5:47 pm

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WuTang_CMB · Post #1375 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon May 15, 2023 5:53 pm

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ItsDanger · Post #1376 » by **ItsDanger** » Mon May 15, 2023 5:57 pm

From some of the draft guys I follow, they seem to think Leonard Miller will be a draft day riser. These results show he's an underreported athlete for sure.

Dalek · Post #1377 » by **Dalek** » Mon May 15, 2023 5:58 pm

grant101 wrote:
Dalek wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Klintman #14 on KOC big board

Woah! I could see some momentum for him. I mean if you are a team with multiple firsts there is a liklihood you take a high upside flyer on Klintman. Teams like Utah and Indy have 3 firsts. Either way, he has been getting enough feedback that he isn't doing the Combine.

Don't think he would have pulled out of the combine before the lotto if it were us. OKC has a history of doing this, and Orlando picked up Caleb Houston last year when he pulled out under similar circumstances... then again, this may be wish-casting cause there are so many better options likely to be available at 13.

It is just some speculation, with little meat to it. I will say that him pulling out this early must mean he has a perfect spot and a guaranteed contract.

Jadoogar · Post #1378 » by **Jadoogar** » Mon May 15, 2023 5:59 pm

The Ringer moved Kobe Bufkin and Blilal Coulibaly into the top 20, seems like there is a lot of noise about these 2.

Dalek · Post #1379 » by **Dalek** » Mon May 15, 2023 6:07 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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Leonard showing well

Look at that! Miller has great quickness in 3/4 sprint and is a good vertical leaper for his size. Nothing spectacular, but he shows as a solid athlete.

Looking at those sprint and vert numbers, those who tested low key sucked. Last year and the year previous had better numbers. Jordan Walsh disappointed me - thought he would have a 40 inch vertical for sure.

dozo · Post #1380 » by **dozo** » Mon May 15, 2023 6:09 pm

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