Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade

[Juco24]

Would never happen... but... 3-way trade where everyone gets what they want:

GSW Receives: Randle

UTA Receives: Wiggins, Looney, McBride, Two 1sts from GSW, 1st Swap from GSW, 1st Swap from NYK, WAS 1st from NYK, DET 1st from NYK, Dadiete from NYK

NYK Receives: Markannen, Kessler

Randle gives us dimension that other teams can’t deal with. Markannan is just another outside shooter.

Glad someone else can see

[Big Chan]

I’m not sure on the BYC stuff but i don’t think so. The big thing about getting unhardcapped is being able to use the TPE’s we have. We have two of them big enough to take on Richards without trading any salary filler.

[Nightstick56NYK]

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If Aller pulls something wild off we should let him acquire the rights to Nick Galis.

As a Greek, I appreciated this reference even more lol

[R-DAWG]

I’m not sure on the BYC stuff but i don’t think so. The big thing about getting unhardcapped is being able to use the TPE’s we have. We have two of them big enough to take on Richards without trading any salary filler.

NY would have $29.27mm below the 2nd apron with 12 players on the roster - 2nd rd picks, Dadiet, Sims along with the top 8.

Enough room to use the obi TPE (expires 7/8) as well as the Barrett TPE (expires in Dec) and the taxpayer MLE.

Might make sense to take on contracts here to stack at trade deadline (ie - take on a 5mm and 6mm contract into TPE’s plus 1 min allows you to take back a mid level player at the deadline).

[Richard4444]

We will add Precious to the deal so we don’t take in more salary than we send out and don’t get hard capped. Since we won’t be hard capped we can use our 6m or 5m TPE to trade for a C, probably attach 2 or 3 seconds to the TPE to make it happen. Maybe even first round pick swap.

Are there BYC restrictions on a Precious sign and trade - ie we can only take back 50% of his salary because of him getting a certain raise?

So for example - he gets $15mm so we can take back $7.5mm. Which leaves us with $3.2mm net of Bridges to take back a player or closer to 5.4mm by throwing in a min piece?

That should be enough room for Nick Richard’s.

I was forgetting about it. If his salary is higher than 6,2 M, the outgoing salary will be 4,3M or 50% or his new salary. So, I don't think we will be able to bring more salary from his departure.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Would never happen... but... 3-way trade where everyone gets what they want:

GSW Receives: Randle

UTA Receives: Wiggins, Looney, McBride, Two 1sts from GSW, 1st Swap from GSW, 1st Swap from NYK, WAS 1st from NYK, DET 1st from NYK, Dadiete from NYK

NYK Receives: Markannen, Kessler

Randle gives us dimension that other teams can’t deal with. Markannan is just another outside shooter.

We're not getting him, but he's not just a shooter and realistically if we did have him we'd probably be the outright favorites. He shooting 49% from the field and 40% from three in his two seasons with the Jazz, acting like that wouldn't be an upgrade is crazy

[Richard4444]

I’m not sure on the BYC stuff but i don’t think so. The big thing about getting unhardcapped is being able to use the TPE’s we have. We have two of them big enough to take on Richards without trading any salary filler.

NY would have $29.27mm below the 2nd apron with 12 players on the roster - 2nd rd picks, Dadiet, Sims along with the top 8.

Enough room to use the obi TPE (expires 7/8) as well as the Barrett TPE (expires in Dec) and the taxpayer MLE.

Might make sense to take on contracts here to stack at trade deadline (ie - take on a 5mm and 6mm contract into TPE’s plus 1 min allows you to take back a mid level player at the deadline).

If we use the Obi or RJ TPE, it will hard cap us at the first apron.

I think our breath room from the second apron is around 16M for 13 players on the roster (counting all rookies plus Sims and waving Diakite).

[3toheadmelo]

Would never happen... but... 3-way trade where everyone gets what they want:

GSW Receives: Randle

UTA Receives: Wiggins, Looney, McBride, Two 1sts from GSW, 1st Swap from GSW, 1st Swap from NYK, WAS 1st from NYK, DET 1st from NYK, Dadiete from NYK

NYK Receives: Markannen, Kessler

Randle gives us dimension that other teams can’t deal with. Markannan is just another outside shooter.

We're not getting him, but he's not just a shooter and realistically if we did have him we'd probably be the outright favorites. He shooting 49% from the field and 40% from three in his two seasons with the Jazz, acting like that wouldn't be an upgrade is crazy

hes a great shooter for sure, but randle's gravity is a big reason why our team has been successful. lauri doesnt have this type of impact imo

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this right here is what tatum and the celtics did in the finals to dissect the mavs defense. it's winning basketball plays. lauri isnt doing this

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[RHODEY]

Would never happen... but... 3-way trade where everyone gets what they want:

GSW Receives: Randle

UTA Receives: Wiggins, Looney, McBride, Two 1sts from GSW, 1st Swap from GSW, 1st Swap from NYK, WAS 1st from NYK, DET 1st from NYK, Dadiete from NYK

NYK Receives: Markannen, Kessler

Randle gives us dimension that other teams can’t deal with. Markannan is just another outside shooter.

Excellent point, people are suggesting we just trade away 24 and 9 all nba powerforward...a front court mismatch versus pretty much anyteam... because he's either too strong for most power forwards to defend or too fast for centers . This is not even factoring his play making.

It makes me think they either don't understand basketball or just want us to sabotage ourselves by relinquishing a major advantage.

[Juco24]

Randle gives us dimension that other teams can’t deal with. Markannan is just another outside shooter.

We're not getting him, but he's not just a shooter and realistically if we did have him we'd probably be the outright favorites. He shooting 49% from the field and 40% from three in his two seasons with the Jazz, acting like that wouldn't be an upgrade is crazy

hes a great shooter for sure, but randle's gravity is a big reason why our team has been successful. lauri doesnt have this type of impact imo

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this right here is what tatum and the celtics did in the finals to dissect the mavs defense. it's winning basketball plays. lauri isnt doing this

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Someone on here said Randle couldn't dribble.. such an asinine statement. Dude doesn't get enough credit for what he brings nightly. Thanks for posting the vids

[R-DAWG]

I’m not sure on the BYC stuff but i don’t think so. The big thing about getting unhardcapped is being able to use the TPE’s we have. We have two of them big enough to take on Richards without trading any salary filler.

NY would have $29.27mm below the 2nd apron with 12 players on the roster - 2nd rd picks, Dadiet, Sims along with the top 8.

Enough room to use the obi TPE (expires 7/8) as well as the Barrett TPE (expires in Dec) and the taxpayer MLE.

Might make sense to take on contracts here to stack at trade deadline (ie - take on a 5mm and 6mm contract into TPE’s plus 1 min allows you to take back a mid level player at the deadline).

If we use the Obi or RJ TPE, it will hard cap us at the first apron.

I think our breath room from the second apron is around 16M for 13 players on the roster.

Using a TPE hard caps you at the first apron? This new CBA is brutal and I think we are heading to a world where salaries adjust downward and most teams live below the first apron.

Does taking salary into the tax MLE also hard cap you at the first apron?

[R-DAWG]

Another low cost option at C could be Dwight Powell from Dallas. He’s on par if not a slight upgrade from Precious and if we can squeeze him into the Bridges trade as part of a Precious sign and trade it helps with depth.

Would still need to find better Mitch depth, but just an idea

[RHODEY]

Another low cost option at C could be Dwight Powell from Dallas. He’s on par if not a slight upgrade from Precious and if we can squeeze him into the Bridges trade as part of a Precious sign and trade it helps with depth.

Would still need to find better Mitch depth, but just an idea

That dude is a scrub who Dallas Fans have been wanting to offload for years. Slight upgrade to Precious? He's might not even be an upgrade to Sims.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Randle gives us dimension that other teams can’t deal with. Markannan is just another outside shooter.

We're not getting him, but he's not just a shooter and realistically if we did have him we'd probably be the outright favorites. He shooting 49% from the field and 40% from three in his two seasons with the Jazz, acting like that wouldn't be an upgrade is crazy

hes a great shooter for sure, but randle's gravity is a big reason why our team has been successful. lauri doesnt have this type of impact imo

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this right here is what tatum and the celtics did in the finals to dissect the mavs defense. it's winning basketball plays. lauri isnt doing this

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Teams send less help in the playoffs and matchups can impact a lot of what teams do. Against a team like the Bucks we're not going to be giving the ball to Randle a lot in the post, one on one vs Giannis in a series where he's trying to beat him like that would stall our offense out. So then he becomes more of a driver and spacer, and if he's not shooting a high percentage on threes the defense sags off.

What works in the regular season may not work in the playoffs and my biggest issue with Randle is we haven't seen success in the playoffs, he needs to show me he can do it, his regular season doesn't matter to me anymore he has to prove it in the playoffs. Some guys games do not transfer to the playoffs, we've seen it with Embiid, sometimes with PG13, a lot of times with Harden. The Celtics offense works cause everyone can shoot threes, Randle so far is shooting 28% from three in the playoffs. If you plugged him into their offense the ball moves less and the defense sags more, it's what happened with Smart. If we had Lauri our offense would look like theirs where no one player needs to create a lot and there's terror as the ball swings around to find the one of the 4 guys shooting 40% from three and all of them can drive on the catch


We're not getting Lauri, if he ends up with the Spurs they are going to make the playoffs and have one of the most devastating front courts we've seen in decades.

[Richard4444]

Another low cost option at C could be Dwight Powell from Dallas. He’s on par if not a slight upgrade from Precious and if we can squeeze him into the Bridges trade as part of a Precious sign and trade it helps with depth.

Would still need to find better Mitch depth, but just an idea

He is awful.

[Richard4444]

NY would have $29.27mm below the 2nd apron with 12 players on the roster - 2nd rd picks, Dadiet, Sims along with the top 8.

Enough room to use the obi TPE (expires 7/8) as well as the Barrett TPE (expires in Dec) and the taxpayer MLE.

Might make sense to take on contracts here to stack at trade deadline (ie - take on a 5mm and 6mm contract into TPE’s plus 1 min allows you to take back a mid level player at the deadline).

If we use the Obi or RJ TPE, it will hard cap us at the first apron.

I think our breath room from the second apron is around 16M for 13 players on the roster.

Using a TPE hard caps you at the first apron? This new CBA is brutal and I think we are heading to a world where salaries adjust downward and most teams live below the first apron.

Does taking salary into the tax MLE also hard cap you at the first apron?

Old TPE: Hard cap at the first apron.
New TPE: Hard cap at the second apron.

Tax MLE: hard cap at the second apron (but can not be used to get a signed contract, only FA according to Cohen).

[KnixinSix]

We will add Precious to the deal so we don’t take in more salary than we send out and don’t get hard capped. Since we won’t be hard capped we can use our 6m or 5m TPE to trade for a C, probably attach 2 or 3 seconds to the TPE to make it happen. Maybe even first round pick swap.

Are there BYC restrictions on a Precious sign and trade - ie we can only take back 50% of his salary because of him getting a certain raise?

So for example - he gets $15mm so we can take back $7.5mm. Which leaves us with $3.2mm net of Bridges to take back a player or closer to 5.4mm by throwing in a min piece?

That should be enough room for Nick Richard’s.

The Precious situation could be the lynchpin of the entire situation. He can be resigned to the EXACT amount necessary to make the trade work the most ideally under the CBA for all parties in the trade.

[Richard4444]

We will add Precious to the deal so we don’t take in more salary than we send out and don’t get hard capped. Since we won’t be hard capped we can use our 6m or 5m TPE to trade for a C, probably attach 2 or 3 seconds to the TPE to make it happen. Maybe even first round pick swap.

Are there BYC restrictions on a Precious sign and trade - ie we can only take back 50% of his salary because of him getting a certain raise?

So for example - he gets $15mm so we can take back $7.5mm. Which leaves us with $3.2mm net of Bridges to take back a player or closer to 5.4mm by throwing in a min piece?

That should be enough room for Nick Richard’s.

The Precious situation could be the lynchpin of the entire situation. He can be resigned to the EXACT amount necessary to make the trade work the most ideally under the CBA for all parties in the trade.

So, we only have to find a team crazy enough to pay 15M on an undersized center that can not shoot. And this team needs to be ok to be hard-capped at the first apron to accept a sign and trade by us for some second rounds...

[knicks1999]

I would take a 29 year old Randle over a 34 year old Paul George….especially when you factor in George’s injury issues and his contract

[FrozenEnvelope]

I would take a 29 year old Randle over a 34 year old Paul George….especially when you factor in George’s injury issues and his contract

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