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Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1381 » by DrCoach » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:53 am

Buttah304 wrote:If Kevin Knox turns out to be a damn good SF with his vast skillset and him only being 18 I’ll just have to admit that I slept on him this entire time. Whenever I watched him my eyes were telling me he wasn’t impacting the game when he wasn’t scoring. If he turns into a good pro or shows legitimate potential I’ll sort of kick myself for not seeing it.



Agreed, on paper, he's exactly what I want.

But watching him played , he wasn't impactful.

I get a Charlie Villanueva vibe from him
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Post#1382 » by jermsknicks » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:54 am

[quote="GONYK"][quote="Triple C"]
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They are calling that a workout? What is the point of that video? I see him playing against a bunch of short unathletic guys and shooting uncontested shots.

Was that Johnathan Givony actually playing agaisnt him?
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Post#1383 » by Fat Kat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:56 am

How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1384 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:06 am

jermsknicks wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Triple C wrote:
Read on Twitter


They are calling that a workout? What is the point of that video? I see him playing against a bunch of short unathletic guys and shooting uncontested shots.

Was that Johnathan Givony actually playing agaisnt him?


Yeah, I didn't see anything either. In fact my opinion got worse. See for me he doesn't have any lateral quickness or explosiveness. He's tall but I just don't see any pop in his game and when you add in what others say watching him. Maybe Charlie Villanueva is a solid comparison.
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1385 » by DrCoach » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:07 am

Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?



He's 6'9, maybe still growing and scored scored 15 ppg as the youngest kid in the draft
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Post#1386 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:10 am

Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?


When he cares and plays aggressive he's good. Problem is that only happens 50 percent of the time...
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Post#1387 » by Fat Kat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:14 am

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Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?



He's 6'9, maybe still growing and scored scored 15 ppg as the youngest kid in the draft


Being young doesn’t necessarily indicate potential. Folks were gaga over Mudiay because he was young. His workouts are very meh
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Post#1388 » by DrCoach » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:22 am

Fat Kat wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?



He's 6'9, maybe still growing and scored scored 15 ppg as the youngest kid in the draft


Being young doesn’t necessarily indicate potential. Folks were gaga over Mudiay because he was young. His workouts are very meh



Knox avg 15pg at 18yrs old for a top program, THAT indicates potential
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Post#1389 » by WajaBawl » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:49 am

If Mikal is gone by the time we're picking I'm going with Knox as well. Physical profile is exactly whats needed for a modern NBA 3, and he's fundamentally sound for a kid who is one of the youngest in the draft. I think his motor issues can be remedied by us having an intense coach like Fizdale who will really go at you if you don't bring it on the court. His upside is just too much to pass down on for a guy like Miles imo.
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Post#1390 » by Knicksfan20 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:59 am

Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?

Knox has a great skillset for the league along with very good measurables. He may never become a #1 type of player, but he could grow into that #2 or #3 role while being an adequate defender. (Maybe?)


Knox isnt completely dog **** at basketball. He does have some basketball skill to go along with his length/athleticism. At the very worse he can be a combo forward in the league who stretches the floor and can score some points.

But if he reaches his potential, he can be a very good well rounded player. I dont think he will reach his max potential, but nobody here can tell the future.

Floor- Tim Thomas, Charlie Villanueva(somebody just made this comparison and i kinda like it)
Potential- A more athletic Keith Van horn/Al Harrington/Danny Granger

But with his size/length/athleticism/shooting touch he has the tools to become an all star, people question his drive. I dont see a whole lot of dawg in him either. I dont think he will ever reach his max potential, but I also dont think he will be a lazy player and be a complete bust.
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1391 » by Fat Kat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:13 pm

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Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?

Knox has a great skillset for the league along with very good measurables. He may never become a #1 type of player, but he could grow into that #2 or #3 role while being an adequate defender. (Maybe?)


Knox isnt completely dog **** at basketball. He does have some basketball skill to go along with his length/athleticism. At the very worse he can be a combo forward in the league who stretches the floor and can score some points.

But if he reaches his potential, he can be a very good well rounded player. I dont think he will reach his max potential, but nobody here can tell the future.

Floor- Tim Thomas, Charlie Villanueva(somebody just made this comparison and i kinda like it)
Potential- A more athletic Keith Van horn/Al Harrington/Danny Granger

But with his size/length/athleticism/shooting touch he has the tools to become an all star, people question his drive. I dont see a whole lot of dawg in him either. I dont think he will ever reach his max potential, but I also dont think he will be a lazy player and be a complete bust.


Good insight. Pretty much feel the same way, but I didn’t see anything in the workout videos that made me change my tune. Trying to figure out why his stock is rising.
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Post#1392 » by Knicksfan20 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:How is Knox showing potential? What is everyone seeing?

Knox has a great skillset for the league along with very good measurables. He may never become a #1 type of player, but he could grow into that #2 or #3 role while being an adequate defender. (Maybe?)


Knox isnt completely dog **** at basketball. He does have some basketball skill to go along with his length/athleticism. At the very worse he can be a combo forward in the league who stretches the floor and can score some points.

But if he reaches his potential, he can be a very good well rounded player. I dont think he will reach his max potential, but nobody here can tell the future.

Floor- Tim Thomas, Charlie Villanueva(somebody just made this comparison and i kinda like it)
Potential- A more athletic Keith Van horn/Al Harrington/Danny Granger

But with his size/length/athleticism/shooting touch he has the tools to become an all star, people question his drive. I dont see a whole lot of dawg in him either. I dont think he will ever reach his max potential, but I also dont think he will be a lazy player and be a complete bust.


Good insight. Pretty much feel the same way, but I didn’t see anything in the workout videos that made me change my tune. Trying to figure out why his stock is rising.


Potential/Length/Athleticism. GM's see those three things to go along with his ability to move without the ball/shooting ability and they see a kid who can become very good.
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Re: Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins 

Post#1393 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20 pm

spree8 wrote:
Knox wrote:ANyone see that cbs mock that has us taking mamba



Kobe’s coming back?



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Post#1394 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:27 pm

DrCoach wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
DrCoach wrote:

He's 6'9, maybe still growing and scored scored 15 ppg as the youngest kid in the draft


Being young doesn’t necessarily indicate potential. Folks were gaga over Mudiay because he was young. His workouts are very meh



Knox avg 15pg at 18yrs old for a top program, THAT indicates potential


Brandon Knight averaged 17, 4, 4 for Kentucky.
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Post#1395 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:32 pm

That's the issue with Knox for sure. He played soft and did not have that bull mentality. Maybe he can improve on that, or maybe its who he is. At some point you take a chance on him. Its not that much of a risk since he should be a decent scorer.

Tempting when you look at his size and skills. But I have enough players in front of him that I probably wouldnt take him at #9.
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Post#1396 » by Kampuchea » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:35 pm

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DrCoach wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Being young doesn’t necessarily indicate potential. Folks were gaga over Mudiay because he was young. His workouts are very meh



Knox avg 15pg at 18yrs old for a top program, THAT indicates potential


Brandon Knight averaged 17, 4, 4 for Kentucky.


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Post#1397 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:38 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:That's the issue with Knox for sure. He played soft and did not have that bull mentality. Maybe he can improve on that, or maybe its who he is. At some point you take a chance on him. Its not that much of a risk since he should be a decent scorer.

Tempting when you look at his size and skills. But I have enough players in front of him that I probably wouldnt take him at #9.


also a majority of his scoring came off running through screens. There is very little playmaking of post up game. He's got a decent jumper and a good floater and both really just come off off ball movement. Does very little with the rock in his hands. And he is probably the worst defender out of the group of wings...

with his ability to just disappear in games I would be concerned. He has a lot of potential but a lot of red flags as well.
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Post#1398 » by F N 11 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:44 pm

I know we want someone with upside but give me Mikal he will sure up our D some and 3 point shooting which we always suck at. Don’t sleep on him he will poster you too! Need to build a culture. Might as well build a team with defense in tact so free agents would be attracted.
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Post#1399 » by ForzaMetro » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:45 pm

Can’t teach size, but can’t really teach motor, either. Knox, Bamba....there are a few guys I’d be worried about.

I’m still leaning Mikal, if he’s there.
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Post#1400 » by sims » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:50 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:That's the issue with Knox for sure. He played soft and did not have that bull mentality. Maybe he can improve on that, or maybe its who he is. At some point you take a chance on him. Its not that much of a risk since he should be a decent scorer.

Tempting when you look at his size and skills. But I have enough players in front of him that I probably wouldnt take him at #9.


also a majority of his scoring came off running through screens. There is very little playmaking of post up game. He's got a decent jumper and a good floater and both really just come off off ball movement. Does very little with the rock in his hands. And he is probably the worst defender out of the group of wings...

with his ability to just disappear in games I would be concerned. He has a lot of potential but a lot of red flags as well.


i'm more intrigued with jarred vanderbilt as a long-term prospect. it's a big "if," but IF he can put it all together he could end up being the more impactful pro depending on where he goes. his rebound rate is sort of the polar opposite of knox's nonchalance, as is his physicality and playmaking. could be elements of draymond green in his game if he can polish up his jumpshot over the next few years. but everything at its right price - if we're talking knox as a borderline top-10 pick versus vanderbilt as a second rounder i'd definitely lead toward the latter. knox seems like the next in a long line of players with enviable physical tools who generate early interest but end up underwhelming.

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