Markelle Fultz

[Knightro]

Isn’t it kinda obvious this will be his last season as a magic? The magic didn’t extended his contract like they did Franz or Paolo. They drafted Black who plays the same position. The magic have an insane amount of guards. I know he has been injured the last six years (honestly that should be more reason to trade him) but there hasn’t been any radical improvement/development. He is a good role player that is best suited surrounded by shooters which is definitely not the magic. Isn’t the writing kinda on the wall that he will be gone? Unless he has an all star type season season in his 7th year, which rarely happens, or settles for a bench role I can’t see how it is not.

It is decidedly not obvious (even if it should be).

Do you really think Jeff "we want to see what we have" Weltman is going to just let his starting PG walk for nothing if the Magic make the play in or potentially even better than that?

The odds IMO are much higher that Fultz gets resigned next summer than he is allowed to walk.

[eyriq]

Isn’t it kinda obvious this will be his last season as a magic? The magic didn’t extended his contract like they did Franz or Paolo. They drafted Black who plays the same position. The magic have an insane amount of guards. I know he has been injured the last six years (honestly that should be more reason to trade him) but there hasn’t been any radical improvement/development. He is a good role player that is best suited surrounded by shooters which is definitely not the magic. Isn’t the writing kinda on the wall that he will be gone? Unless he has an all star type season season in his 7th year, which rarely happens, or settles for a bench role I can’t see how it is not.

It is decidedly not obvious (even if it should be).

Do you really think Jeff "we want to see what we have" Weltman is going to just let his starting PG walk for nothing if the Magic make the play in or potentially even better than that?

The odds IMO are much higher that Fultz gets resigned next summer than he is allowed to walk.

Eh, it's obvious

[SOUL]

Obvious Black should be starting PG right now!!

[eyriq]

Obvious Black should be starting PG right now!!

Hehe you read my mind!

[drsd]

Obvious Black should be starting PG right now!!

So then this ????

[eyriq]

Obvious Black should be starting PG right now!!

So then this ????

Pfft

[Skybox]

Isn’t it kinda obvious this will be his last season as a magic? The magic didn’t extended his contract like they did Franz or Paolo. They drafted Black who plays the same position. The magic have an insane amount of guards. I know he has been injured the last six years (honestly that should be more reason to trade him) but there hasn’t been any radical improvement/development. He is a good role player that is best suited surrounded by shooters which is definitely not the magic. Isn’t the writing kinda on the wall that he will be gone? Unless he has an all star type season season in his 7th year, which rarely happens, or settles for a bench role I can’t see how it is not.

It is decidedly not obvious (even if it should be).

Do you really think Jeff "we want to see what we have" Weltman is going to just let his starting PG walk for nothing if the Magic make the play in or potentially even better than that?

The odds IMO are much higher that Fultz gets resigned next summer than he is allowed to walk.

hate to agree...but I do. They shouldn't build chemistry all year and let him walk or "build up his value" and trade him at the deadline...the team dynamic, at this stage, is too critical and volatile, IMO. If Black or Cole or player to be named later (see trade thread ), they should have pulled the trigger by now.

[yoyojw17]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/6mNmf6Ntdlk?si=V7f39eiB1uFmvuvc[/youtube]

Main focuses on three pointers and getting to the line so that he can help the team next season. Let's see how this all translates!

[Bensational]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/6mNmf6Ntdlk?si=V7f39eiB1uFmvuvc[/youtube]

Main focuses on three pointers and getting to the line so that he can help the team next season. Let's see how this all translates!

I love how specific he was about those elements. A version of Fultz who’s more aggressive drawing contact and shooting 3’s will be a whole new player for the team.

He speaks like a veteran. Really sounds in control, composed and clear on what needs to be done. I’m so pumped for what this season might be for Fultz.

[Knightro]

Call me a pessimist or a hater if you must, but let's just say I'll believe the .135 career 3PT rate, .205 career FT rate guy is going to start taking more threes and free throws when I actually, you know, see it.

I do hope it happens though.

[Bensational]

Call me a pessimist or a hater if you must, but let's just say I'll believe the .135 career 3PT rate, .205 career FT rate guy is going to start taking more threes and free throws when I actually, you know, see it.

I do hope it happens though.

C’mon now dude, you’ve displayed nothing hopeful about Fultz all off-season and you’re already starting from a position of doubt. If you see if, you won’t have to ‘believe it’ because it’ll just be a fact by then - unless you still doubt it because you weigh his career numbers over an outlier season…

It’s fine - you don’t have to be an unrealistic Stan for the guy. You’ve got plenty of reasons to hold your skeptical opinion. But we’re about to start a new season and I think going in with some positive vibes would be nice, y’know? You don’t have to try to undercut any hope or bit of praise Fultz gets.

[Rainwater]

Isn’t it kinda obvious this will be his last season as a magic? The magic didn’t extended his contract like they did Franz or Paolo. They drafted Black who plays the same position. The magic have an insane amount of guards. I know he has been injured the last six years (honestly that should be more reason to trade him) but there hasn’t been any radical improvement/development. He is a good role player that is best suited surrounded by shooters which is definitely not the magic. Isn’t the writing kinda on the wall that he will be gone? Unless he has an all star type season season in his 7th year, which rarely happens, or settles for a bench role I can’t see how it is not.

It is decidedly not obvious (even if it should be).

Do you really think Jeff "we want to see what we have" Weltman is going to just let his starting PG walk for nothing if the Magic make the play in or potentially even better than that?

The odds IMO are much higher that Fultz gets resigned next summer than he is allowed to walk.

I really do expect him to be traded for some picks at the deadline even if the play in is at stake. I really think the the front office is more concerned about growing this team correctly than winning.

[Residual-Heat]

all i want is over 3 attempts per game at +33%.

[Rainwater]

Call me a pessimist or a hater if you must, but let's just say I'll believe the .135 career 3PT rate, .205 career FT rate guy is going to start taking more threes and free throws when I actually, you know, see it.

I do hope it happens though.

I could see him taking more threes but do you expect those threes to go in is the real question, lol.

People for years have been saying his three point shot will improve but have yet to see it.

[Knightro]

C’mon now dude, you’ve displayed nothing hopeful about Fultz all off-season and you’re already starting from a position of doubt. If you see if, you won’t have to ‘believe it’ because it’ll just be a fact by then - unless you still doubt it because you weigh his career numbers over an outlier season…

It’s fine - you don’t have to be an unrealistic Stan for the guy. You’ve got plenty of reasons to hold your skeptical opinion. But we’re about to start a new season and I think going in with some positive vibes would be nice, y’know? You don’t have to try to undercut any hope or bit of praise Fultz gets.

I don't believe Fultz will significantly increase his 3PT or FT frequency. Is that better for you?

But if he does it, great!

Here's a newsflash though...

I, and others, can be excited for another season of Magic basketball while remaining skeptical of Markelle. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

[Bensational]

C’mon now dude, you’ve displayed nothing hopeful about Fultz all off-season and you’re already starting from a position of doubt. If you see if, you won’t have to ‘believe it’ because it’ll just be a fact by then - unless you still doubt it because you weigh his career numbers over an outlier season…

It’s fine - you don’t have to be an unrealistic Stan for the guy. You’ve got plenty of reasons to hold your skeptical opinion. But we’re about to start a new season and I think going in with some positive vibes would be nice, y’know? You don’t have to try to undercut any hope or bit of praise Fultz gets.

I don't believe Fultz will significantly increase his 3PT or FT frequency. Is that better for you?

But if he does it, great!

Here's a newsflash though...

I, and others, can be excited for another season of Magic basketball while remaining skeptical of Markelle. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

I’ll believe the excitement when I see it.

[thelead]

I believe in Markelle. The flashes at the end of the season gave me hope. And now he’s shooting EVERYTHING with his normal shot during training camp. He may be finally ready to take that next step in his career. I hope he does it… and if he can’t, we have a stud top-6 pick ready to try behind him over the next few years… and if AB doesn’t cut it, we can then think about the trade market or using cap space next summer. All that said, I’m excited as hell to see what Markelle can do this year.

[pepe1991]

"My dad told me he will be back in 1991, he will"

Pretty much Fultz /3 point/ FGA drawing comparison


I can even somehow talk myself into beliving player who's biggest skill is avoid contact going toward rim will *somehow* stop doing what he has been doing his whole life and start initiating contact and draw some fouls ( i 'mean, i can't, but for sake of dumb arguments here...).


But what execlly people project his 3 point recovery onto? 3 threes made in last 5 games? Or 26,9% for 3 month prior?
Or 27,8% for career?
No, they project those numbers on COLLEGE NUMBERS from 2016-17 season.

You know it's so far gone that in that nba season, Isaiah Thomas was legit top5 MVP candidate, right?


Holly Jesus. Your whole blind faith is based on his exit interview, as he was entering contract year. What a hell you expected him to say? Yea... i will continue to be top 5 worst starter at position, but pls don't change me, i need new contract and nobody else would actually start me since i have no potential left and my "floor " is down years of Dennis Schroder" ?

[VFX]

I believe in Markelle. The flashes at the end of the season gave me hope. And now he’s shooting EVERYTHING with his normal shot during training camp. He may be finally ready to take that next step in his career. I hope he does it… and if he can’t, we have a stud top-6 pick ready to try behind him over the next few years… and if AB doesn’t cut it, we can then think about the trade market or using cap space next summer. All that said, I’m excited as hell to see what Markelle can do this year.

I just find it extremely annoying that his 3pt shot is even addressed until the final year of his expiring contract after Orlando spends a top lottery pick at his position.

Even if you want to be excited about him insurmountably improving that very absent area of his game, he put the organization in a very serious predicament because it’s all on the line now for HIM to show it.

Oh it’s now the biggest contract you’ll ever ink? Might as well cut your hair and start addressing the elephant in the room regarding your game in year 8 as Orlando is scrambling to find the right pieces to pair with their cornerstones… even if it all works out it’s transparent and this isn’t someone I want them to hand $25m+ to as a third option offensively.

[yoyojw17]

I believe in Markelle. The flashes at the end of the season gave me hope. And now he’s shooting EVERYTHING with his normal shot during training camp. He may be finally ready to take that next step in his career. I hope he does it… and if he can’t, we have a stud top-6 pick ready to try behind him over the next few years… and if AB doesn’t cut it, we can then think about the trade market or using cap space next summer. All that said, I’m excited as hell to see what Markelle can do this year.

I just find it extremely annoying that his 3pt shot is even addressed until the final year of his expiring contract after Orlando spends a top lottery pick at his position.

Even if you want to be excited about him insurmountably improving that very absent area of his game, he put the organization in a very serious predicament because it’s all on the line now for HIM to show it.

Oh it’s now the biggest contract you’ll ever ink? Might as well cut your hair and start addressing the elephant in the room regarding your game in year 8 as Orlando is scrambling to find the right pieces to pair with their cornerstones… even if it all works out it’s transparent and this isn’t someone I want them to hand $25m+ to as a third option offensively.

His three point shot was part of his focus last offseason too. You know.... the offseason after being out with a knee injury for a season and half. Lol.... then a table derailed that effort and came back to a team which he was trying to help win.... no time to throw out his dabbling in 3s.... because he was coming back to mesh with a team that he didn't even get a training camp in. makes sense that he would focus on doing what he thinks he is strongest at. lol.... even if that doesn't jive with what people on the realgm board wants of him and decided is a check mark of success. He returned (with cole) and the team took a drastic turn.... that you cannot deny.

if he shows that he is able to surpass all the things that the FO believed in him for though he was down on his luck.... better believe they will retain their investment. and he won't be 3rd option on a nightly basis. similarly to when paolo and others were sucking he stepped up. but now this team will be growing together and he should become an important cog in the MAGIC SUCCESS.

We are trying to ride this wave of believed success... and handing the Keys over to AB in his rookie season is not the answer. P.s. AB's contract is under magic control for the next 4 years and he will have the opportunity to grow. and at 6'7" he will be used in a myriad of ways as well. Even if Fultz is given a contract...the timing can all work out... and the torch can be passed along as seen as necessary.