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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 4 days left 

Post#141 » by Ruzious » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:30 pm

closg00 wrote:Who wants to play odds-maker? What are the chances AMMO is in a Wiz uni this season?

I think there's 6 invitees fighting for probably the last roster spot, and one of them - Martin - has the best shot at making the team. Otoh, with Howard likely out for 2 months, maybe they keep an extra SF on the roster until then - depending on how they think Young can do at the 3, so I'll bump up his chances to 20%.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 2 days left 

Post#142 » by nate33 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:09 pm

Already signed:

PG Wall, Hinrich
SG Arenas, Young
SF Thornton, Howard, Booker
PF Blatche, Yi
C McGee, Armstrong, Seraphin

That's 12 players. We're 2-deep at PG and SG, 2-1/2 deep at SF and PF (if you argue that Booker is a tweener), and 3-deep at C. I'd say our biggest areas of concern are depth at SG and depth at SF while Howard is out.

It looks like a pretty sure bet that Martin or Hudson will make the roster at SG as our 13th player. I think the play of Booker during training camp will be the deciding factor on our 14th player. If Booker looks good enough to hold his own for spot minutes, then there really isn't a need to add anybody else. Booker will hold down the fort until Howard gets back.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 2 days left 

Post#143 » by LyricalRico » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:59 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Anyone staying up for this? Maybe chat it up?


I'll actually be there with a buddy.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 2 days left 

Post#144 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:01 pm

nate33 wrote:Already signed:

PG Wall, Hinrich
SG Arenas, Young
SF Thornton, Howard, Booker
PF Blatche, Yi
C McGee, Armstrong, Seraphin

That's 12 players. We're 2-deep at PG and SG, 2-1/2 deep at SF and PF (if you argue that Booker is a tweener), and 3-deep at C. I'd say our biggest areas of concern are depth at SG and depth at SF while Howard is out.

It looks like a pretty sure bet that Martin or Hudson will make the roster at SG as our 13th player. I think the play of Booker during training camp will be the deciding factor on our 14th player. If Booker looks good enough to hold his own for spot minutes, then there really isn't a need to add anybody else. Booker will hold down the fort until Howard gets back.


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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 2 days left 

Post#145 » by verbal8 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:09 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
nate33 wrote:Already signed:

PG Wall, Hinrich
SG Arenas, Young
SF Thornton, Howard, Booker
PF Blatche, Yi
C McGee, Armstrong, Seraphin

That's 12 players. We're 2-deep at PG and SG, 2-1/2 deep at SF and PF (if you argue that Booker is a tweener), and 3-deep at C. I'd say our biggest areas of concern are depth at SG and depth at SF while Howard is out.

It looks like a pretty sure bet that Martin or Hudson will make the roster at SG as our 13th player. I think the play of Booker during training camp will be the deciding factor on our 14th player. If Booker looks good enough to hold his own for spot minutes, then there really isn't a need to add anybody else. Booker will hold down the fort until Howard gets back.


Is Singleton out of the picture?

Yeah he signed with a team in China.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 2 days left 

Post#146 » by GhostsOfGil » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:08 pm

anyone making it out to the midnight practice tonite? ill be there
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th - 2 days left 

Post#147 » by Wizardspride » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:59 am

Click on the link to read the rest.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/9/27 ... -this-team

Flip Saunders looking forward to "molding this team"

Saunders on conditioning: "We're in a lot better condition that we were in the past, One of our goals is to be one of the best conditioned teams in the league ... our practices are going to be very grueling."

Saunders on Arenas: "Right now, he's by far in the best shape he's been in the last three years, as far as physically, weight wise, how he looks, how his legs are. I know he wants to go out and prove a lot of things, and I think he's taking the right approach, as far as a serious approach. That's what we have to do as a team."

More Saunders on Arenas: "I don't think anyone looks forward to talking to 50 people. You guys aren't the nicest guys in the world. Let's put it into perspective."

Saunders on whether Arenas and John Wall will work well together: "You look at some of the better teams that have played. You look at Detroit, with Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas. Both of those guys were considered point guards, or guys that wanted to have the ball in their hands. Both these guys - they've played a lot together over the last few weeks. There won't be any problems there."

Saunders on Andray Blatche: "He's in a different situation than he was a year ago. He didn't have John Wall. He didn't have Gilbert Arenas. He didn't have Kirk Hinrich. He didn't have Josh Howard. Those have four veterans guys who have played in this league and been very effective players, so he's not going to have to carry a big load like he did a lot last year. The main thing is that he's got to be efficient."

Saunders on whether he'll employ a tight eight-man rotation like he pledged to do last year: "Right now, I'm going to keep everything open. We'll see how many guys can play. If we get 12 guys that can play, we'll play 12. Right now, it's pretty much open competition for everybody."

Saunders on whether we'll see the same two-guard offensive sets we saw at the end of last year, rather that his typical point-guard driven attack: "We'll do some of [the two-guard sets]. The difference is that [Wall's] dynamics as far as his speed with the ball is off the charts, so we're not going to take away from one of the best things he does. We're going to get the ball in his hands and let him make decisions, but we'll run some two-guard sets too, because he's going to want some pressure taken off of him at times too."

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Post#148 » by Wizardspride » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:42 am

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Elvin Hayes and other former Bullets reconnect with team

Elvin Hayes said somewhere along the way - possibly after the Washington Bullets dealt him to the Houston Rockets in 1981 - that his relationship with the only organization for which he had won a championship, the place where he had established most of his Hall of Fame credentials, had been severed.

It always pained him that he had mostly lost that bond but he didn't realize how deep the disconnect was until he called the Wizards last season and struggled to find someone who recognized his name and could offer him assistance. Hayes, whose No. 11 jersey hangs in the rafters, eventually called former teammate and current Wizards broadcaster Phil Chenier, who helped put him in contact with the right people.

"That's when it really hurt me. You have put so much sweat and blood on the court and you call a place, and it's like, 'Who?' " Hayes said in a telephone interview from Houston. "It was like nobody knew. I called everywhere. I finally got one person who said, 'I know who you are.' "

Hayes likely won't have that problem anymore. Since taking over as owner of the Wizards, Ted Leonsis has made a concerted effort to reach out to former players with the hopes of establishing a formal Wizards/Bullets alumni program. He has reached out to Hayes, Wes Unseld, Bobby Dandridge, Earl Monroe, Kevin Grevey and Kevin Porter and asked President Ernie Grunfeld to assist him in contacting players.

Taking a cue from organizations such as the Boston Celtics, who constantly intertwine their past history, Leonsis wants players who have contributed to the success of the Bullets and the Wizards to have a more visible presence - in the owner's box at Verizon Center, at games, at practices - sharing their wisdom with the current players and serving as ambassadors for the team.

After Abe Pollin's death, and the Pollin family selling the team last June, Leonsis felt the organization lost an important link to its past success and needed to start anew.

"I promised we'd pay homage to the past, but I didn't have that natural connective tissue," Leonsis said. "I need to build that sense of community, because Mr. Pollin owned the team for so long, he was the team. I'm new. I can't do it on my own. I need help. In my due diligence and my research, I felt like this franchise has had a lot of great players, Hall of Fame players, championship-winning players who had developed and become great and successful in life."

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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#149 » by hands11 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:37 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05412.html

Gil not looking to happy. Not loving the media anymore. It's ok. It's a process.

Damn, I missed it. I wanted to go but had it in my head it was tonight. Well, at least I got to spend time with my nieces and mother eating some pasta.
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Re: Wizards 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Dal Oct 5th 

Post#150 » by MJG » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:43 am

Dat2U wrote:Bottom line, every year we say the East is much improved. I've been guilty of this the past three years and each year it seems like the more things change, the more they remain the same. There's one superteam. A couple of good teams, a couple of also-rans (were in this category IMO) and a couple of miserable teams. There's plenty of opportunity IMO for a team like the Wizards to surprise.

I want to second this. "The conference improved" is just about the most predictable offseason cliche. I mean, it is really possible for a group that includes 50% of the league to just magically improve by that much as a whole? We're just at the point in the summer where it's assumed all rookies will work out, all free agent signings will repeat their work from a season ago, all trades will pay dividends, no key pieces will get injured, etc. Well, many rookies will fail, and even those that don't won't be as good as hoped. A large percentage of new players will prove that the grass isn't always greener by mid-season. And so on.

I could see this season, the average win total for the non-playoff teams being a bit higher than last year, and the average win total for the bottom 4-5 playoff spots being a tad lower than last year. So, maybe a better way to describe the conference would be more competitive, rather than improved.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#151 » by Ruzious » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:52 am

hands11 wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/09/27/VI2010092705412.html

Gil not looking to happy. Not loving the media anymore. It's ok. It's a process.

Damn, I missed it. I wanted to go but had it in my head it was tonight. Well, at least I got to spend time with my nieces and mother eating some pasta.

Yeah, they treated him like a show-pony instead of a person, and he didn't feel like pandering. I don't blame him.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#152 » by hands11 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:02 pm

Ruzious wrote:
hands11 wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/09/27/VI2010092705412.html

Gil not looking to happy. Not loving the media anymore. It's ok. It's a process.

Damn, I missed it. I wanted to go but had it in my head it was tonight. Well, at least I got to spend time with my nieces and mother eating some pasta.

Yeah, they treated him like a show-pony instead of a person, and he didn't feel like pandering. I don't blame him.


Yeah, Gil's looking at little Baron Davis with the beard. Only without the anger look or smile.

Not sure I'm liking the long beard look for Gil. Maybe he is thinking if he isn't looking very photographic, they may leave him alone a little more. He looks like he has been locked up in his house playing to many video games. I suspect as time goes on, Gil will work his way back into things. The beard will get shorter and then he will eventually loose it.
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Post#153 » by Hoopalotta » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:18 pm

^ I actually really liked that Saunders quote about the media with "you're not the nicest people in the world". I would have easily ponied up a shiny new nickle for him to turn that one into a tangent in the vein of one of his "just lost by one point" press conferences.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#154 » by REDardWIZskin » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:43 pm

Wow i was expecting this thread to be atleast to about twenty pages by now from feedback of midnight madness.
Did anyone notice the play where Yi sealed Mcgee on a Booker entry pass for a easy two. That kinda made my stomach drop. If Yi is able to seal Mcgee what will starting caliber C's do to him :nonono: . I gave him the benfit of the doubt of suffering from a mental lapse due to fatigue tho. Mainly because he didnt really give any effort on the play but partly because im hoping that it was fatigue and not inability to defend and get position on one of the finese bigs on the floor on the block
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#155 » by AceDegenerate » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:50 pm

Yeah, I think it's really hard to gauge much from the basketball aspect of last night, good and bad, all we really saw is that Gilbert is the player most accustomed to playing past midnight. :nod:
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#156 » by LyricalRico » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:39 pm

REDardWIZskin wrote:Did anyone notice the play where Yi sealed Mcgee on a Booker entry pass for a easy two. That kinda made my stomach drop. If Yi is able to seal Mcgee what will starting caliber C's do to him :nonono: . I gave him the benfit of the doubt of suffering from a mental lapse due to fatigue tho. Mainly because he didnt really give any effort on the play but partly because im hoping that it was fatigue and not inability to defend and get position on one of the finese bigs on the floor on the block


Yeah, I remember that. A few people in my section groaned a bit when it happened. On the positive side, it seems that McGee has his chemistry with Wall from SL still in tact.

What I remember most is Wall seeming to defer to a non-explosive Arenas during the few offensive posessions they shared together. Obvously it's a very small sample size but it was pretty scary and I would HATE to go through 82 games of that.

Other notes:

- Hilton Armstrong was active
- Hinrich looked smaller than I remember
- I love Hamady's athleticism
- GMU has much higher booty-per-capita than I was expecting
- The go-go band that played (Mumbo Sauce?) was pretty good. Almost makes me wanna dig up my old NEG tapes from the 90's. LOL
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#157 » by Shanghai Kid » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:09 pm

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REDardWIZskin wrote:What I remember most is Wall seeming to defer to a non-explosive Arenas during the few offensive posessions they shared together. Obvously it's a very small sample size but it was pretty scary and I would HATE to go through 82 games of that.


Do you mean deferring as far as setting up the offense, or deferring as far as scoring goes?

I expect that Wall will initiate the offense and be the playmaker most of the time, but that Gilbert will of course take more shots and probably get more Iso's.
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Post#158 » by LyricalRico » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Deferring in the sense that he wasn't the floor leading PG that he seemed to be when he was flying solo. More tentative and more willing to wait and see what Gil would do before he started doing his own thing.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Todays the day 

Post#159 » by Jimmy Recard » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:21 am

I didn't get a chance to see the midnight practice. From what i'm hearing Gil looked like he was in great shape. Does he have his speed/athleticism back?
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Post#160 » by LyricalRico » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:26 am

Mosca wrote:I didn't get a chance to see the midnight practice. From what i'm hearing Gil looked like he was in great shape. Does he have his speed/athleticism back?


In shape? Yes. Straight line speed? I'd also say Yes.

But he looked a lot like the first part of last season where he could get to the rim but didn't have the explosion to finish like 2006.

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