Woj: Boston trying to move up into late Lottery if not highe

Post #141 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:02 pm

Well hold up now, Wojo still reported that the C's are looking to trade up.

Post #142 » by **Slartibartfast** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:02 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:When people throw out Pierce to GSW scenarios, they have to remember that Golden St. needs to send salary back, and the only disposable contracts of ample size are Biedrins and Jefferson, both pretty toxic.

They aren't that toxic, especially given that all teams need to meet a higher cap floor. They do muss up our cap room plans this year and next, but from their perspective, what would you rather have next summer, Drummond and $20m in expirings via RJ and Biedrins, or $25m in cap room via a bazillion year old Pierce and Biedrins?

I was responding to those who were throwing in Bradley and both picks in potential GSW deals.

As to their toxicity, 2 year hefty deals can cost quite a bit to unload. Detroit had to throw in a potential lottery pick to shed a single year of Ben Gordon.

bballcool34 · Post #143 » by **bballcool34** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:02 pm

Frank Lucas isn't lying or anything but the dude met Doc Rivers and talked to him, there's nothing in that conversation that can't be shared...Doc isn't going to hear about it like "OMG that random, nice guy I met totally blabbed what I told him"....Doc isn't an idiot, he probably said fairly general things like "we are looking at all possibilities, who knows maybe my son" and then started laughing or something...that's not inside info, it's a conversation.

Thread isn't dead though, it's about Woj's info which actually is inside info a lot of the time--- so we're looking to move up---> if late lottery, hopefully we can snag Sullinger. Trading Bradley and picks for Rivers would be a huge mistake and I doubt Danny does that.

Gant · Post #144 » by **Gant** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:04 pm

There's a great chance for Sullinger just staying put.

bballcool34 · Post #145 » by **bballcool34** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:07 pm

yeah, I don't know, I don't think we'll get Sullinger with 21 despite all the ref flags going up. But it wouldn't require us to move up that much, that's true

leper-con · Post #146 » by **leper-con** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:07 pm

The target in my opinion is Barnes who is sliding a bit. We need a wing scorer and this guy would be perfect. He is ready to step in right away.

Frank Lucas · Post #147 » by **Frank Lucas** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:08 pm

bballcool34 wrote:Frank Lucas isn't lying or anything but the dude met Doc Rivers and talked to him, there's nothing in that conversation that can't be shared...Doc isn't going to hear about it like "OMG that random, nice guy I met totally blabbed what I told him"....Doc isn't an idiot, he probably said fairly general things like "we are looking at all possibilities, who knows maybe my son" and then started laughing or something...that's not inside info, it's a conversation.

Thread isn't dead though, it's about Woj's info which actually is inside info a lot of the time--- so we're looking to move up---> if late lottery, hopefully we can snag Sullinger. Trading Bradley and picks for Rivers would be a huge mistake and I doubt Danny does that.

Also I didn't start this thread, I just thought I would share something and yes I said I wasn't coming on hear to say my source said this or that. I had a conversation with the man and he shared some thoughts with me. That is pretty much it, I was excited by some of the things he had to share. Maybe I just should not have mentions anything at all on this thread. So shame on me for even saying a word.

Post #148 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:08 pm

I just want it to be 6 PM EST. That's when things started moving in 07 iirc.

Datruth345 · Post #149 » by **Datruth345** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:10 pm

my point was

as soon as he said he was giddy and excited, Dwight Howard and all the other grandiose plans started coming out, that is why this thread is 10 pages not because Wojo said the Celtics are trying to trade up, that convo has come and gone

he has all but said himself after initially leaving things open ended and letting imaginations wander that all he did was meet doc rivers and he has no info at all about the actual plans of the celtics

that is why imo this thread is dead

bballcool34 · Post #150 » by **bballcool34** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:11 pm

Frank Lucas wrote:
Also I didn't start this thread, I just thought I would share something and yes I said I wasn't coming on hear to say my source said this or that. I had a conversation with the man and he shared some thoughts with me. That is pretty much it, I was excited by some of the things he had to share. Maybe I just should not have mentions anything at all on this thread. So shame on me for even saying a word.

No, I agree with you, you made it clear that it was a nice conversation with Doc and never acted like you had any inside info

It wouldn't hurt to just come out and say what it was, but that's your choice obviously, still good to know that Doc was excited, it's always cool to meet someone like that.

Frank Lucas · Post #151 » by **Frank Lucas** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:18 pm

Datruth345 wrote:my point was

as soon as he said he was giddy and excited, Dwight Howard and all the other grandiose plans started coming out, that is why this thread is 10 pages not because Wojo said the Celtics are trying to trade up, that convo has come and gone

he has all but said himself after initially leaving things open ended and letting imaginations wander that all he did was meet doc rivers and he has no info at all about the actual plans of the celtics

that is why imo this thread is dead

I didn't say that I didn't have any information, I said I wasn't going to share anything. I was just agreeing with ddb to pretty much kill the mood. Also it looks as if ddb was starting to become a hater so I backed off.

EJay33 · Post #152 » by **EJay33** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:22 pm

RondoToKG wrote:I get a kick out of anyone who tries to lie and say they know inside information.... you're on the **** internet. No one knows who you are. You're not leaking anything by telling us what was said.... Even if your username is your real name, no one is going to take some guys comment off realgm and run with it as official news. You gain absolutely nothing by telling us you know this information and vice versa. So either tell us, or you're full of ****.

You must be new here. Welcome.

The Playmaker · Post #153 » by **The Playmaker** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:24 pm

Please not Harrison Barnes. He's a good player and I don't think he'll be a bust but I don't want to trade up for him.

bigboi · Post #154 » by **bigboi** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:28 pm

ddb wrote:People are looking too far into this.

Pierce isn't getting traded. Management respects and loves PP. He's still one hell of a player despite being 35 years old. I fully expect Pierce, KG and Ray to be in Celtic green in 12-13 to make another push at a banner.

It's one of 2 things:
A) Rondo could end up being the odd man out. His value is sky-high. He could net this team some serious talent/depth. Especially when the Free Agent class is FULL of PG's. Nash, AMiller, DWilliams, Dragic, Kidd, Felton, etc etc. Ainge might still have a crush on CP3 by the way. Who's available outright via Free Agency next season.

B) Bradley, #21, #22 lands Ainge a lottery pick which enables him to grab Austin, Barnes, Drummond or SOMEONE that Ainge fell in love with and thinks can help this team win now and in the future.

C) Josh Smith. I've said it a hundred times. My sources say he's on the move. He loves Boston, Boston likes him, Rondo/Smith are boys. Bradley would be gone. Picks would be gone and probably Bass. Ainge would look at acquiring Smith plus Hinrich (who Ainge loves).

D.) Same as draft deadline. Nothing happens, Ainge drafts #21, #22

If we could do one of these two options

. But forget Rivers, I would much rather have Lamb or Waiters.

jking · Post #155 » by **jking** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 pm

Frank Lucas wrote:
Datruth345 wrote:my point was

as soon as he said he was giddy and excited, Dwight Howard and all the other grandiose plans started coming out, that is why this thread is 10 pages not because Wojo said the Celtics are trying to trade up, that convo has come and gone

he has all but said himself after initially leaving things open ended and letting imaginations wander that all he did was meet doc rivers and he has no info at all about the actual plans of the celtics

that is why imo this thread is dead

I didn't say that I didn't have any information, I said I wasn't going to share anything. I was just agreeing with ddb to pretty much kill the mood. Also it looks as if ddb was starting to become a hater so I backed off.

Whoa Frank shooting back to say he indeed has some info that he chooses not to share! Well played.

Shamrock · Post #156 » by **Shamrock** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 pm

bigboi wrote:
ddb wrote:People are looking too far into this.

Pierce isn't getting traded. Management respects and loves PP. He's still one hell of a player despite being 35 years old. I fully expect Pierce, KG and Ray to be in Celtic green in 12-13 to make another push at a banner.

It's one of 2 things:
A) Rondo could end up being the odd man out. His value is sky-high. He could net this team some serious talent/depth. Especially when the Free Agent class is FULL of PG's. Nash, AMiller, DWilliams, Dragic, Kidd, Felton, etc etc. Ainge might still have a crush on CP3 by the way. Who's available outright via Free Agency next season.

B) Bradley, #21, #22 lands Ainge a lottery pick which enables him to grab Austin, Barnes, Drummond or SOMEONE that Ainge fell in love with and thinks can help this team win now and in the future.

C) Josh Smith. I've said it a hundred times. My sources say he's on the move. He loves Boston, Boston likes him, Rondo/Smith are boys. Bradley would be gone. Picks would be gone and probably Bass. Ainge would look at acquiring Smith plus Hinrich (who Ainge loves).

D.) Same as draft deadline. Nothing happens, Ainge drafts #21, #22

If we could do one of these two options . But forget Rivers, I would much rather have Lamb or Waiters.

Agreed, I think Waiters is gonna be a beast.

EJay33 · Post #157 » by **EJay33** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 pm

It seems highly unlikely to me that any team in the lottery wants to trade for Paul Pierce. Is he good? Yes. He is also going to be 35 at the start of next season. Tell me why the Warriors give up a 7 pick him? Winning culture? Add Pierce to that lineup and they still might not go .500. It's just stupid. Post these hypotheticals on the Warriors board and watch as your post gets laughed at and ridiculed.

Post #158 » by **Slartibartfast** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:48 pm

Godmoney wrote:It seems highly unlikely to me that any team in the lottery wants to trade for Paul Pierce. Is he good? Yes. He is also going to be 35 at the start of next season. Tell me why the Warriors give up a 7 pick him? Winning culture? Add Pierce to that lineup and they still might not go .500. It's just stupid. Post these hypotheticals on the Warriors board and watch as your post gets laughed at and ridiculed.

The only reason it's feasible is that the Warriors would be dumping bad contracts in return (Jefferson and/or Biedrins).

If healthy, Curry/Thompson/Pierce/Lee/Bogut is definitely a playoff team. Tremendous scoring punch from the perimeter, a bonafide defensive anchor in Bogut, a nice alternate scoring/rebounding option in David Lee. Very dangerous team.

tamang4 · Post #159 » by **tamang4** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:57 pm

Frank Lucas wrote:Man oh man I have some news to share but I'm said I would not say anything. But man this is going to be a very good night for the Cs. I ran into someone very close to the Cs when I mean close I mean this person has all the players on his cell phone and also I know he has one of the kids in this draft in his cell phone too. But that is all I'm going to say. But man oh man, Let's Go Celtics!

Also I never post any "source" stuff on here and I'm not going to start. But man oh man I'm giddy today and I'm happy I ran into this person this morning.

wanna tell me?

tamang4 · Post #160 » by **tamang4** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:01 pm

Frank Lucas wrote:Guys I'm really not messing with anyone here that is not my style. I'm just going to say I can't wait to see what happens tonight and the hours leading up to the draft. It's should be fun but I will say this that the person I ran into this morning was being someone what coy. But at the end of the day I felt was truthful. Than I come back into my office and a few minutes later I seen Yahoo sports report that he Cs are trying to move up into the lottery. So that right there told me that this person was not B.S. me and I will say I'm happy he is our coach....oops

whatt??? that makes no sense, if they are trying to get austin whos gonna fill for KG if the rumours of him leaving are true.