Kris Dunn

[ppedro123]

I love this player and I hope he lands in Milwaukee somehow.

if im the bucks, im looking for someone who can space the floor

[Duke4life831]

His numbers have regressed to his junior year. He was like a #8 pick last year so would view him very late lottery now.

Last year was a deep draft, so wouldn't the 8th pick last year be a top 5 pick this year?

Ya I didn't get that either. I also don't remember him being considered as a top 10 pick last year. He's a solid prospect, not going to be a star but going to be a solid PG that as a fan your happy with in your team kinda like a Mike Conley (not style of play)

[Nebula1]

I love this player and I hope he lands in Milwaukee somehow.

if im the bucks, im looking for someone who can space the floor

Dunn can shoot the 3 but can also penetrate. If I'm the Bucks, I want as many options as possible.

[Juggynaut]

Dunn was considered around 10-14 area last year. I think he deserves his placement this year, this draft sucks.

[HotelVitale]

Dunn was considered around 10-14 area last year. I think he deserves his placement this year, this draft sucks.

You also have to look at his style of play at Providence to see why his # didn't go up. He could juke almost any college defender and could've gotten to the rack all day, but that's not how they used him. He only got to take guys one on one either in transition or at the end of the clock, otherwise the offense (for better or worse) didn't play to his strengths.

He could've put up much more eye-popping numbers if it was his team to do whatever with. I don't know that the team would've been better that way, but he definitely could've done it.

[Zombiesonics]

Dunn gives off some wroten vibes that's my only issue with him, I'm not 100% sure any of his shooting will translate. He really needs to rework his form; in the NBA it's not only further away, but you have bigger faster close outs so you need to essentially cut the release time by like a 1/4.

[Negrodamus]

Dunn gives off some wroten vibes that's my only issue with him, I'm not 100% sure any of his shooting will translate. He really needs to rework his form; in the NBA it's not only further away, but you have bigger faster close outs so you need to essentially cut the release time by like a 1/4.

Dunn can finish with either hand, has a decent spot up shot.

Wroten hates his right hand and he sucks at shooting. He also goes for the homerun pass every time. Otherwise, he'd be a great point guard.

[Dr Positivity]

Wroten's shooting stroke was more broken at 16% 3pt and 58% FT in college

However, MCW is a worrying comparison for Dunn

[No-Man]

Wroten's shooting stroke was more broken at 16% 3pt and 58% FT in college

However, MCW is a worrying comparison for Dunn

Yikes, seriously? Wroten? MCW? Dunn's not even comparable as a playmaker, go luck at the advanced numbers, check the assist % and rates, it is not close.

[Zombiesonics]

Wroten's shooting stroke was more broken at 16% 3pt and 58% FT in college

However, MCW is a worrying comparison for Dunn

Yikes, seriously? Wroten? MCW? Dunn's not even comparable as a playmaker, go luck at the advanced numbers, check the assist % and rates, it is not close.

style of play, he favors those two. am i missing something? his assist % is pretty similar to mcws, and wroten was a scorer at udub but entered college as a pass first flashy passer with handle + athleticism + size.

[HotelVitale]

Wroten's shooting stroke was more broken at 16% 3pt and 58% FT in college However, MCW is a worrying comparison for Dunn

Yikes, seriously? Wroten? MCW? Dunn's not even comparable as a playmaker, go luck at the advanced numbers, check the assist % and rates, it is not close.

style of play, he favors those two. am i missing something? his assist % is pretty similar to mcws, and wroten was a scorer at udub but entered college as a pass first flashy passer with handle + athleticism + size.

MCW never had any real vision (still doesn't), he's a drive and kick assist guy who posts solid assist numbers because he has the ball in his hands and is athletic enough to get past many guys. He really can't run a team, though, and isn't any good at setting up guys or running plays based on passing.

And Dunn's a significantly better shooter; all his shooting #s are average-ish (45% fg, 37% 3pt, 54% TS) while MCW's were always below average (39% fg, 29% 3pt, 49% TS). And before you say MCW was only a sophomore...Dunn will only be 6 months older at this draft than MCW was when he was drafted.

[Zombiesonics]

Yikes, seriously? Wroten? MCW? Dunn's not even comparable as a playmaker, go luck at the advanced numbers, check the assist % and rates, it is not close.

style of play, he favors those two. am i missing something? his assist % is pretty similar to mcws, and wroten was a scorer at udub but entered college as a pass first flashy passer with handle + athleticism + size.

MCW never had any real vision (still doesn't), he's a drive and kick assist guy who posts solid assist numbers because he has the ball in his hands and is athletic enough to get past many guys. He really can't run a team, though, and isn't any good at setting up guys or running plays based on passing.

And Dunn's a significantly better shooter; all his shooting #s are average-ish (45% fg, 37% 3pt, 54% TS) while MCW's were always below average (39% fg, 29% 3pt, 49% TS). And before you say MCW was only a sophomore...Dunn will only be 6 months older at this draft than MCW was when he was drafted.

I saw plenty of MCW in college and he wasnt just hunting assists, he was threading the needle while running offense. He averaged 7+ on a 30 win team ... So lemme guess dunn can really run an offense huh? Want to take a guess how his team performed offensively over the past two seasons? Horribly.

While dunn is an improved shooter, its hardly a skill thats ready to translate over for him. He's been relatively allergic to taking threes before this year ( wroten territory 3pAr, before his improvement this season).

[Negrodamus]

style of play, he favors those two. am i missing something? his assist % is pretty similar to mcws, and wroten was a scorer at udub but entered college as a pass first flashy passer with handle + athleticism + size.

MCW never had any real vision (still doesn't), he's a drive and kick assist guy who posts solid assist numbers because he has the ball in his hands and is athletic enough to get past many guys. He really can't run a team, though, and isn't any good at setting up guys or running plays based on passing.

And Dunn's a significantly better shooter; all his shooting #s are average-ish (45% fg, 37% 3pt, 54% TS) while MCW's were always below average (39% fg, 29% 3pt, 49% TS). And before you say MCW was only a sophomore...Dunn will only be 6 months older at this draft than MCW was when he was drafted.

I saw plenty of MCW in college and he wasnt just hunting assists, he was threading the needle while running offense. He averaged 7+ on a 30 win team ... So lemme guess dunn can really run an offense huh? Want to take a guess how his team performed offensively over the past two seasons? Horribly.

While dunn is an improved shooter, its hardly a skill thats ready to translate over for him. He's been relatively allergic to taking threes before this year ( wroten territory 3pAr, before his improvement this season).

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

Watch the UNC game and see how many times Dunn put his teammates in perfect position to score and they blew it. Their lack of offense is through no fault of Dunn's. If they didn't have Bentil, I don't think they would have been an NIT team.

[HotelVitale]

I saw plenty of MCW in college and he wasnt just hunting assists, he was threading the needle while running offense. He averaged 7+ on a 30 win team ... So lemme guess dunn can really run an offense huh? Want to take a guess how his team performed offensively over the past two seasons? Horribly. While dunn is an improved shooter, its hardly a skill thats ready to translate over for him. He's been relatively allergic to taking threes before this year ( wroten territory 3pAr, before his improvement this season).

I don't feel like there's anything to argue here--MCW, whom I've seen hundreds of hours of, is a drive and kick player. He penetrates and passes to a man that's right in his vision space or else pretty close to him (sometimes a shooter, sometimes a big in the lane). His style is to drive past his man any way possible and see what happens, hoping a help defender comes so he can dump it to his guy. That's not a knock on him, and he's pretty effective at it overall. Dunn is a more deliberative player who watches the whole court and picks his spots (often to fault), and he makes more surprising and interesting passes. Overall he hasn't been more productive than MCW as a college playmaker, but there's no arguing that they used two very different styles to get their #s.

Your comment on Dunn's shooting seems off. He shot 77 3s last year and 113 this year, so his volume has increased some but only by like 30%, which seems standard for an improving shooter. And his %s haven't changed much--35% last year and 37% this year. Those two years make up about 75% of the total minutes he played as a college player (he only played 20mpg as a freshman and was injured almost his whole soph year), so he's consistently been a modest-volume 3pt shooter for 75% of his college career. I can see how that's not super impressive but I don't get the argument that it's a fluke--all of our two-year sample size says the same thing.

[saintEscaton]

Dun is shifty, can change directions after stopping on a dime and has an electrifying first step that allows him to blow by anyone. This year he has converted 61.7 percent of his 94 non-dunk attempts at the basket, before he was known to be a poor finisher. Closest thing to a floor general in this class, he can slow it down and dictate the pace in the half court but is still prone to forcing bad jum passes, isn't a a lockdown on the ball defender who can contain dribble penetration. He uses his length and agility to recover as a weakside shto blocker

[DubCeeSwag]

Dean Oliver made a point about the top 2% in statistical measures being the difference makers in basketball. All the great players and teams are in that top 2% statistically.

Kris Dunn after getting as high as 33 last year had an awful year by his standards, and his PER dipped hard to 23 but he put up assists and steals in the top 2%. He also rebounds in the top 1% of his position. He will be drafted in the first round.

[Chi town]

I love Dunn. Think he is the most sure bet in the top 10 w the highest ceiling behind Simmons and Ingram. IMO he is an explosive Brandon Knight that can defend and make plays.

[GimmeDat]

I watch his game and see someone who can easily translate in the NBA. Outside of his jumpshot, he's a plus in almost every catergory - athleticism, scoring at the hole, facilitating the offense, defense, etc. His jumper is obviously the concern, but it's not broken, and he's not a non-shooter. As long as it turns out serviceable, he'll be alright.

He should be one of the most NBA-ready guys to come out, and I think is likely to turn into a starting level player. If I had to make a comparison, it's a poor mans John Wall.

[immortalone23]

I watch his game and see someone who can easily translate in the NBA. Outside of his jumpshot, he's a plus in almost every catergory - athleticism, scoring at the hole, facilitating the offense, defense, etc. His jumper is obviously the concern, but it's not broken, and he's not a non-shooter. As long as it turns out serviceable, he'll be alright.

He should be one of the most NBA-ready guys to come out, and I think is likely to turn into a starting level player. If I had to make a comparison, it's a poor mans John Wall.

Like a Reggie Jackson?

[GimmeDat]

I watch his game and see someone who can easily translate in the NBA. Outside of his jumpshot, he's a plus in almost every catergory - athleticism, scoring at the hole, facilitating the offense, defense, etc. His jumper is obviously the concern, but it's not broken, and he's not a non-shooter. As long as it turns out serviceable, he'll be alright.

He should be one of the most NBA-ready guys to come out, and I think is likely to turn into a starting level player. If I had to make a comparison, it's a poor mans John Wall.

Like a Reggie Jackson?

Similar caliber player, definitely. Jackson has an improved jumper, a bit more refinement to his offensive game, like his floater, and a better handle. I think the type of athlete/body he is more resembles the mold of a Wall.