Back again: Getting OKC a wing

[Kings2013]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

It's what happens when you have arguably a top 5 talent at a position, you try to make it work

It's about chemistry and continuity too. I think when Collison comes back, and the schedule turns more favorable, team can potentially turn corner. But the league is full of mediocre players, full. Getting weak draft assets, or some young player who might not turn anything that you couldn't pay for through FA, Rudy can be a second banana potentially for a few years yet, and be possibly be convinced to stay

Omri on the other hand was mentioned. A talented player who I assume hasn't been fit. I hate to see him not being utilized, but maybe that will change

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

It's what happens when you have arguably a top 5 talent at a position, you try to make it work

It's about chemistry and continuity too. I think when Collison comes back, and the schedule turns more favorable, team can potentially turn corner. But the league is full of mediocre players, full. Getting weak draft assets, or some young player who might not turn anything that you couldn't pay for through FA, Rudy can be a second banana potentially for a few years yet, and be possibly be convinced to stay

Omri on the other hand was mentioned. A talented player who I assume hasn't been fit. I hate to see him not being utilized, but maybe that will change

Oh, I wouldn't really think there is anyone out there actually arguing Gay is a top 5 sf.

[Chinook]

So the pick is protected from 21-30? Doesn't that mean that if it's in the top-20, it's Philly's? That seems like quite the gamble from a team so dependent on a player who's already missed time in his career for injuries.

Other way around

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He worded it wrong

Thanks. I wouldn't call that fake. If they keep Westbrook, they have a good chance at being top-10.

[Andre Roberstan]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

It's what happens when you have arguably a top 5 talent at a position, you try to make it work

It's about chemistry and continuity too. I think when Collison comes back, and the schedule turns more favorable, team can potentially turn corner. But the league is full of mediocre players, full. Getting weak draft assets, or some young player who might not turn anything that you couldn't pay for through FA, Rudy can be a second banana potentially for a few years yet, and be possibly be convinced to stay

Omri on the other hand was mentioned. A talented player who I assume hasn't been fit. I hate to see him not being utilized, but maybe that will change

Oh, I wouldn't really think there is anyone out there actually arguing Gay is a top 5 sf.

LeBron
KD
Kawhi
PG13
(insert Melo/Hayward/Butler here)

Gay's probably top 10. I don't think you can make an argument for top 5 at all.

[Mystical Apples]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

It's what happens when you have arguably a top 5 talent at a position, you try to make it work

It's about chemistry and continuity too. I think when Collison comes back, and the schedule turns more favorable, team can potentially turn corner. But the league is full of mediocre players, full. Getting weak draft assets, or some young player who might not turn anything that you couldn't pay for through FA, Rudy can be a second banana potentially for a few years yet, and be possibly be convinced to stay

Even in a vacuum top 15 SF is a major stretch. There's no rule mandating X% offense should come from a specific position. Usage finds the most efficient players which places Gay outside the top 2 (or 3) for playoff teams w/options.... like adding a 2nd PnR PG, for example.

Gay's value in most cases will = floor spacing starter + bench usage. Which begs the question of Gay vs. "lesser" non-sticky shooters who defend. Or if we're even valuing players rather than net skill contributions (including diminishing returns).

[Pillendreher]

Isn't he talking about Cousins?

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[Kings2013]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

It's what happens when you have arguably a top 5 talent at a position, you try to make it work

It's about chemistry and continuity too. I think when Collison comes back, and the schedule turns more favorable, team can potentially turn corner. But the league is full of mediocre players, full. Getting weak draft assets, or some young player who might not turn anything that you couldn't pay for through FA, Rudy can be a second banana potentially for a few years yet, and be possibly be convinced to stay

Even in a vacuum top 15 SF is a major stretch. There's no rule mandating X% offense should come from a specific position. Usage finds the most efficient players which places Gay outside the top 2 (or 3) for playoff teams w/options.... like adding a 2nd PnR PG, for example.

Gay's value in most cases will = floor spacing starter + bench usage. Which begs the question of Gay vs. "lesser" non-sticky shooters who defend. Or if we're even valuing players rather than net skill contributions (including diminishing returns).

we are talking about him being utilized to his strengths offensively under Joerger or anywhere as in this year, which places his efficiency just fine

[Andre Roberstan]

Isn't he talking about Cousins?

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Yeah, he might be.

[HartfordWhalers]

Isn't he talking about Cousins?

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Yeah, he might be.

No, it was about Gay being utilized correct. It is a long standing position.

[Mystical Apples]

It's what happens when you have arguably a top 5 talent at a position, you try to make it work

It's about chemistry and continuity too. I think when Collison comes back, and the schedule turns more favorable, team can potentially turn corner. But the league is full of mediocre players, full. Getting weak draft assets, or some young player who might not turn anything that you couldn't pay for through FA, Rudy can be a second banana potentially for a few years yet, and be possibly be convinced to stay

Even in a vacuum top 15 SF is a major stretch. There's no rule mandating X% offense should come from a specific position. Usage finds the most efficient players which places Gay outside the top 2 (or 3) for playoff teams w/options.... like adding a 2nd PnR PG, for example.

Gay's value in most cases will = floor spacing starter + bench usage. Which begs the question of Gay vs. "lesser" non-sticky shooters who defend. Or if we're even valuing players rather than net skill contributions (including diminishing returns).

we are talking about him being utilized to his strengths offensively under Joerger or anywhere as in this year, which places his efficiency just fine

We agree he'll be fine.

[Pillendreher]

Isn't he talking about Cousins?

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Yeah, he might be.

No, it was about Gay being utilized correct. It is a long standing position.

Wait - he actually believes Gay to be a Top 5 player/SF?

[Mystical Apples]

Yeah, he might be.

No, it was about Gay being utilized correct. It is a long standing position.

Wait - he actually believes Gay to be a Top 5 player/SF?

Somewhere between top 5 and fine.