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Post#141 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:13 pm

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I get the impression that you watch a little too much 'house of cards' and vividly believe everything on the show.

hillary only stayed married to bill to further enhance her political career despite him getting naughty with a 22 year old that worked in his office and even worse lying about it on live tv.


I'm sure Melania is with Trump for his rugged good looks and dashing personality.


Who ordered up the Botox and other enhancements? "You can use the basement I will be tweeting in my chamber".
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Post#142 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:20 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
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The Big O 44 wrote:hillary only stayed married to bill to further enhance her political career despite him getting naughty with a 22 year old that worked in his office and even worse lying about it on live tv.


I'm sure Melania is with Trump for his rugged good looks and dashing personality.


Who ordered up the Botox and other enhancements? "You can use the basement I will be tweeting in my chamber".


How can you say no to a man with an orange spray tan
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Post#143 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:27 pm

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OAKLEY_2 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
I'm sure Melania is with Trump for his rugged good looks and dashing personality.


Who ordered up the Botox and other enhancements? "You can use the basement I will be tweeting in my chamber".


How can you say no to a man with an orange spray tan


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Post#144 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:47 pm

canguy20m wrote:person A becomes president
during his term the country loses
- space program
- panama canal
- control of the internet
- control of iraq
- petrodollar status (saudi arabia is not on board)
- relationship with israel
- status as the largest economy ppp gdp
- #1 trading nation with most number of countries (to china)
- all their seed companies (monsanto takeover by bayer)
- some say over the development of genetically modified crop (monsanto/bayer now based in eu)
- control of their theaters (amc, carmike, odeon to China)
- distinction of having the fastest supercomputer (no more)
- largest grocery industry (china is #1 by total spending)
- last television manufacturer (vizio)
- chubb corp, aon and other market movers
- much of their semiconductor industry (takeovers mean the technology goes to china)
- some of its energy independence (no keystone, no coal, carbon tax on oil, gas, shale means competitive advantage for foreign producers)

in comes president B emphasizing the need for protectionist measures.
the people : why ?

and another question : Jane Fonda (champion of women's rights) said she regrets not saying anything about weinstein all these years. just months ago all those actors and actresses voicing concern praised polanski. in fact in the 1990's they lobbied for his release from France and charges of pedophelia dropped. how do they have any credibility ?



Just wow. I can see even trying to discuss this is futile, so I'll just say - You can't be serious with this rubbish!
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Post#145 » by dTox » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:52 pm

At this point I've given up debating with Trump Supporters, they are willing to go down with the ship, regardless of how fast it sinks. You won't win this argument until his impeachment. Trump can literally go over and fornicate with one of his supporter's wife and they will yell fake news or bring up a random Hillary Clinton fact to somehow justify the act.
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Post#146 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:16 pm

The Gish Gallop lives.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Post#147 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:36 pm

What is more disrespectful...kneeling at the anthem or mocking families of dead soldiers and POWs? Let me guess Hillary's emails and OBAMA.
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Post#148 » by Kabookalu » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:45 pm

Trump Supporters: "Fire those ungrateful sons of a bitches for disrespecting our veterans and country!"
*Trump takes away medicaid for veterans*
Trump Supporters: "Great job Mr. President, those veterans need to be stop being lazy and work for their healthcare!"
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Post#149 » by whoknows » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:07 pm

This thread sound like teenagers internet fight and logic...oops, I guess it is.

Truth is Americans dodged a huge bullet by not electing Hilary after the disastrous Obama's 8 years.
Believe what you want from the fake polls and news, I can tell you as a fact that majority of working Americans are much happier now.
We all should be happy since a stronger American economy means a stronger Canadian economy (in spite of Trudeau's ineptitude).
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Post#150 » by Kabookalu » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:17 pm

whoknows wrote:Believe what you want from the fake polls and news, I can tell you as a fact that majority of working Americans are much happier now.


This is the propaganda that conservatives want the whole country to believe, that they're the only hard working class in the country. No it's not fact, just a sweeping generality based on a myth. I would know, I come from a conservative background, I have a lot of family who bleed red, but I absolutely hate the GOP. People on the rust belt are NOT happy that Trump has not followed through with his plans to bring back outdated jobs back to the country. Trump has done nothing to bring back hard working jobs back to American soil, one of the staples of his campaign. If they're happy that's because they live in ignorance and Trump's damaging policies to the country have yet to take effect.

Actually it slowly starting is to with his executive orders crippling the healthcare system because his ego got hurt that Republicans are not supporting him for his awful plans. It's hilarious conservatives continue pushing this agenda that Obama ruined this country when he was the one that took us out of a recession.




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Post#151 » by rarefind » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:57 pm

mprapss wrote:Been a die hatd fan for 20 years, if thats their position i am done with raptors.

US has 320 million people why inault 40% of them because you do not agree with their politics.

Cant wait for athletes to start boycotting hollywood now that weinstein truth is out, or players who beat up their spouses.

Kyle lowry is somehow our moral compass because he can play basketball and get paid insane amount of money to do so


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Post#152 » by rarefind » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:59 pm

whoknows wrote:This thread sound like teenagers internet fight and logic...oops, I guess it is.

Truth is Americans dodged a huge bullet by not electing Hilary after the disastrous Obama's 8 years.
Believe what you want from the fake polls and news, I can tell you as a fact that majority of working Americans are much happier now.
We all should be happy since a stronger American economy means a stronger Canadian economy (in spite of Trudeau's ineptitude).


*ignore everything but definitely listen to me - i know what i am talking about*

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Post#153 » by LiSTWithLani » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:05 am

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mprapss wrote:Been a die hatd fan for 20 years, if thats their position i am done with raptors.

US has 320 million people why inault 40% of them because you do not agree with their politics.

Cant wait for athletes to start boycotting hollywood now that weinstein truth is out, or players who beat up their spouses.

Kyle lowry is somehow our moral compass because he can play basketball and get paid insane amount of money to do so


Think of it as sticking up for the other 60%.

Its the 40% that won the election, CNN, Late night hosts, over paid athletes and other elitists are the anti trumps who control the media and continue the witch hunt and wont report what the real situations are. Expand your box, look at situations from different view points and you'll understand why Trump doesn't give a rats ass if the Toronto Raptors stay in his Hotel.

Toronto in general hasn't been fond of Trump for some time now... People wouldn't stay in his hotel in TO either.
His hotel condominium was just relaunched as the St Regis. I was at the showroom and toured through six suites in the building. Nice doesn't quite say enough.
St Regis is Marriot's top brand, above the Ritz Carlton even and they're offering the property for better value per square foot than any of the Four Seasons, Ritz Carlton or Shangri La.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#154 » by C Court » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:08 am

whoknows wrote:
Truth is Americans dodged a huge bullet by not electing Hilary after the disastrous Obama's 8 years.

We all should be happy since a stronger American economy means a stronger Canadian economy (in spite of Trudeau's ineptitude).


Don't let the facts get in the way of your fake Trump talking points. Conservative Bloomberg Business News said this....

Trump says the last eight years under Obama have been disastrous. Nope, not when compared to other recent presidencies.


Economic performance under President Obama was stronger than any of his predecessors back to Jimmy Carter, except for one - Bill Clinton. Stronger than Republican presidents like both Bush's and even Reagan.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy

After an unprecedented job growth under Obama, last month saw its first decline under President Trump. Fact is the economy is stronger under Democrats than Republicans.
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Post#155 » by Kabookalu » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:26 am

Centre Court wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Truth is Americans dodged a huge bullet by not electing Hilary after the disastrous Obama's 8 years.

We all should be happy since a stronger American economy means a stronger Canadian economy (in spite of Trudeau's ineptitude).


Don't let the facts get in the way of your fake Trump taking points. Conservative Bloomberg News said this....

Trump says the last eight years under Obama have been disastrous. Nope, not when compared to other recent presidencies.


Economic performance under President Obama was stronger than any of his predecessors back to Jimmy Carter, except for one - Bill Clinton. Stronger than Republican presidents like both Bush's and Reagan.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy

After an unprecedented job growth under Obama, last month saw its first decline under President Trump. Fact is the economy is stronger under Democrats than Republicans.


As a conservative growing up I've learned to now loathe everything that was taught to me because they were all brandished on lies. I've been told that liberals were ruining this country and perpetuating a culture of laziness with their handouts. The conservative belief revolves around the idea of the "hard working American." This is best represented in two American western classics. The first High Noon in which a sheriff attempts in vain to gather support for when a gang is about to descend on their own at noon. Western icon John Wayne was disgusted by the movie and called it unAmerican; he thought it was pathetic that a sheriff would ask his own citizens for help. So they created Rio Bravo where citizens are throwing their support for Wayne, but he declines and decides to tackle the gang about to descend on their town by themselves, but all those citizens that he rejected ended up helping him anyways. I think both movies have merit in their messages, which John Wayne missed by a mile with High Noon, though you can see elements of this close mindedness even back then.

We're still suffering the effects of the Raegen presidency, and it's not helped by the GOP and Trump wanting to revive his failed trickle down economics theory that's proven to have been a complete disaster, if Kansas is a testament to anything. This ideology of the "hard working American" has plagued this country because it's based on an ideal that's so stubborn and uncompromising. You CAN'T have anything you want just because you worked hard for it, times have changed since the 40's and 50's, but the GOP and conservatives want to keep telling you that. That used to be true when just about anyone can buy a house, people made a decent living off of minimum wage, and community college was free. Things have changed and the ideology of the hard working American no longer conforms to the times, but the power hungry and irresponsible GOP will tell you otherwise.




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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#156 » by refshateRaps » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:29 am

Centre Court wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Truth is Americans dodged a huge bullet by not electing Hilary after the disastrous Obama's 8 years.

We all should be happy since a stronger American economy means a stronger Canadian economy (in spite of Trudeau's ineptitude).


Don't let the facts get in the way of your fake Trump taking points. Conservative Bloomberg News said this....

Trump says the last eight years under Obama have been disastrous. Nope, not when compared to other recent presidencies.


Economic performance under President Obama was stronger than any of his predecessors back to Jimmy Carter, except for one - Bill Clinton. Stronger than Republican presidents like both Bush's and Reagan.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy

After an unprecedented job growth under Obama, last month saw its first decline under President Trump. Fact is the economy is stronger under Democrats than Republicans.


Well we had to have an unprecedented economic meltdown under Obama so we could then have the unprecedented amount of bond buying to stimulate the economy. If Trump gets two terms he's likely to hit the bad side of a cycle too and people will surely blame him.

Neither Hillary or Donald care about you people. Atleast under the Donald campaign the "Russians" have exposed some useful information with proof the corruption and media collusion in the Democrats so we can see what is going on. The Republicans are just a shameful, just not as powerful in the media space and hopeful some hackers hit them back. I don't care for Trump as a person, or some of his platform but I do appreciate when the truth is exposed, and not the garbage MSM brainwash some people still defend. Its nauseating to here Trump talk "fake news" but more people are aware then ever. That's a good thing.

Hopefully in the future we'll have better people, a bit more considerate in their tone to difficult social issues, without personal financial interests who are willing to put their lives on the line to expose some of these truths and actually work for the people. If people are engaged and stop fighting Left vs. Right or make all politics about identity this could happen. Problem is people will not stay engaged, we are all too distracted and most don't even understand the power people could have in democracy as its not properly taught for that very reason
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Post#157 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:51 am

refshateRaps wrote:
Centre Court wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Truth is Americans dodged a huge bullet by not electing Hilary after the disastrous Obama's 8 years.

We all should be happy since a stronger American economy means a stronger Canadian economy (in spite of Trudeau's ineptitude).


Don't let the facts get in the way of your fake Trump taking points. Conservative Bloomberg News said this....

Trump says the last eight years under Obama have been disastrous. Nope, not when compared to other recent presidencies.


Economic performance under President Obama was stronger than any of his predecessors back to Jimmy Carter, except for one - Bill Clinton. Stronger than Republican presidents like both Bush's and Reagan.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy

After an unprecedented job growth under Obama, last month saw its first decline under President Trump. Fact is the economy is stronger under Democrats than Republicans.


Well we had to have an unprecedented economic meltdown under Obama so we could then have the unprecedented amount of bond buying to stimulate the economy. If Trump gets two terms he's likely to hit the bad side of a cycle too and people will surely blame him.

Neither Hillary or Donald care about you people. Atleast under the Donald campaign the "Russians" have exposed some useful information with proof the corruption and media collusion in the Democrats so we can see what is going on. The Republicans are just a shameful, just not as powerful in the media space and hopeful some hackers hit them back. I don't care for Trump as a person, or some of his platform but I do appreciate when the truth is exposed, and not the garbage MSM brainwash some people still defend. Its nauseating to here Trump talk "fake news" but more people are aware then ever. That's a good thing.

Hopefully in the future we'll have better people, a bit more considerate in their tone to difficult social issues, without personal financial interests who are willing to put their lives on the line to expose some of these truths and actually work for the people. If people are engaged and stop fighting Left vs. Right or make all politics about identity this could happen. Problem is people will not stay engaged, we are all too distracted and most don't even understand the power people could have in democracy as its not properly taught for that very reason


When you write something like this...I'll just say this.

The sub-prime crisis in the US happened in 2007. The bubble burst in 2006. It was full steam bad through 2008 and investment banks had pretty much pissed away all their capital and collapsed by September 2008.

You'll note, Obama didn't start his presidency until 2009, and was left with a complete **** show. He got into office and immediately had to sign a trillion dollar bailout, or watch the world economy collapse, all as a result of the greed and corruption of the banks.

And the huge majority of CDOs sold that caused this crap were sold after 2000. During Bush's era.

They have had some really bad leaders, but that's never changing until someone takes on campaign finance reform.
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Post#158 » by C Court » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:53 am

Kabookalu wrote:
As a conservative growing up I've learned to now loathe everything that was taught to me because they were all brandished on lies. I've been told that liberals were ruining this country and perpetuating a culture of laziness with their handouts. The conservative belief revolves around the idea of the "hard working American."

Things have changed and the ideology of the hard working American no longer conforms to the times, but the power hungry and irresponsible GOP will tell you otherwise.


Couldn't have said it any better.

I voted conservative for 30 years. I was a big fan of Reagan. But around ten years ago, I realized that much of the stuff that Conservatives and Republicans said as facts were false. I couldn't reconcile always lying and making **** up to get around the truth - which came more from liberals than from conservatives.

No, the economy does NOT perform better under GOP presidents. No, tax cuts do NOT increase overall government revenue. No, tax cuts do NOT cause wealth to trickle down. No, the GOP does NOT reduce government debt when in power. These guys lie, lie and lie and then they yell Fake News when challenged by facts (like we see in this thread).
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Post#159 » by KL78192020 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:43 am

The Big O 44 wrote:
smallgains wrote:There hasn't been a real president for decades....they are just public figure heads. The real job is done by boards, think tanks, lawyers and intelligence services. I find it laughable that people think otherwise.

mainly the men who control the federal reserve which is the central banking system for the most powerful country in the world are the ones who pull the strings; among them the elite wealthy top one percent like the Rothschild and Rockefeller. They control many industries such as the media and will do anything to preserve their interests, even if it means **** everyone else over. They give money to the politician of their choosing and they are the biggest lobbyists and special interest groups ever.

That's why many presidents end up being puppets, because if they refuse they will end up like JFK or Lincoln.


lol, still hiding out in your moms basement?
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Post#160 » by vascular » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:55 am

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TooBad wrote:
You didn't realize that she was married to Bill Clinton either did you? i'm sure Bill just ignored his crazy political wife his whole tenure and Hillary had nothing to do with any decision he ever made because that's how marriage works.


I get the impression that you watch a little too much 'house of cards' and vividly believe everything on the show.

hillary only stayed married to bill to further enhance her political career despite him getting naughty with a 22 year old that worked in his office and even worse lying about it on live tv.


so how does that answer anything?

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