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Re: Official Mitchell Robinson Thread 

Post#141 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:19 am

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So glad this diva is gone. He basically telling his coach when/where to play him :noway:

This dude talking about "stretch 4's and guys trying to drag me out" when he was the one who insisted on playing the 4 to avoid defending guys in the paint.

Yet funny how Mitch is smaller than him and not bulky at all yet has no issues with being asked to fight in the paint AND chase guards out to the 3pt line and throw their shot back in their face with regularity.

The diva show continues...Good riddance!


He wants his cake and to eat it too. Like "Well, I can get blocks inside, but not if the guy is too strong or a real C, but, I don't want to chase stretch 4's either". WTF?


Dude even starts off by being quoted as saying "It doesn't really matter to me," then proceeds to list all the intricate details and conditions of why it matters who he is defending and at what position.

WTF? :lol:

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Re: Official Mitchell Robinson Thread 

Post#142 » by Fat Kat » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:23 am

2010 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
2010 wrote:


So glad this diva is gone. He basically telling his coach when/where to play him :noway:

This dude talking about "stretch 4's and guys trying to drag me out" when he was the one who insisted on playing the 4 to avoid defending guys in the paint.

Yet funny how Mitch is smaller than him and not bulky at all yet has no issues with being asked to fight in the paint AND chase guards out to the 3pt line and throw their shot back in their face with regularity.

The diva show continues...Good riddance!


He wants his cake and to eat it too. Like "Well, I can get blocks inside, but not if the guy is too strong or a real C, but, I don't want to chase stretch 4's either". WTF?


Dude even starts off by being quoted as saying "It doesn't really matter to me," then proceeds to list all the intricate details and conditions of why it matters who he is defending and at what position.

WTF? :lol:

#diva #unicorny #headcase #janisinfluence


He’s gonna give the Mavs a list of centers he won’t play against.

Embiid
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Vucevic
Gasol
Cousins
Jokic
Drummond
Turner
Kanter

He’ll be available to play center against everyone else. He’ll then insist his brother is appointed assistant GM.
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Re: Official Mitchell Robinson Thread 

Post#143 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:51 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
2010 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
He wants his cake and to eat it too. Like "Well, I can get blocks inside, but not if the guy is too strong or a real C, but, I don't want to chase stretch 4's either". WTF?


Dude even starts off by being quoted as saying "It doesn't really matter to me," then proceeds to list all the intricate details and conditions of why it matters who he is defending and at what position.

WTF? :lol:

#diva #unicorny #headcase #janisinfluence


He’s gonna give the Mavs a list of centers he won’t play against.

Embiid
Adams
Vucevic
Gasol
Cousins
Jokic
Drummond
Turner
Kanter

He’ll be available to play center against everyone else. He’ll then insist his brother is appointed assistant GM.


Can't wait for Mitch to add him to the list!!!
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Post#144 » by Context » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:35 pm

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Post#145 » by Context » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:40 pm

blueNorange wrote:he's at 10.9 block rate.

unless i'm wrong, nobody has hit 11% since manute bol right?


But even more impressive is that he’s blocking an all-time best 10.9 percent of 2-pointers, a stratosphere that no NBA player has approached since the heyday of 7-foot-7 Manute Bol three decades ago.


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Post#146 » by god shammgod » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:40 pm

Read on Twitter


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Post#147 » by god shammgod » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:45 pm

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-knicks-rookie-center-is-a-statistical-enigma/
WS/48 is equally effusive in its praise of Robinson for the full season. This system explicitly adjusts all players as if they’re hypothetically playing a full, regulation 48 minutes — one-fifth of the court time. So you take his rate and multiply it by five and get an expected winning percentage on a hypothetical team with five players exactly like him. That means a Knicks team of five Robinson’s (.211 WS/48) would never lose a game.


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Post#148 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:15 pm

Real talk if the Knicks trade Mitch along with Zion or RJ for Antonio McDavis I will be sick to my stomach.

Mitch is a gem and looks like a real dude. I love his awkwardness. And his impact on the court is definitely real.

Plus I want to see Zion or RJ wearing a Knicks jersey. Screw AD.
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Post#149 » by magnumt » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:07 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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who got access to this ? we need some quotes....for the culture! :D


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Inside the mind of Mitchell Robinson: Knicks’ rookie phenom tells all on how he blocks shots


By Mike Vorkunov Mar 25, 2019  6 
When​ the Knicks drafted Mitchell​ Robinson​ with​ the​ 36th pick in​ the​ NBA Draft​ last​ June, it​ was​ seen as​ the team​​ buying a lottery ticket. Robinson wasn’t well known despite a pedigree as an All-American in high school. He hadn’t played in a year and left college the summer after high school. It was a high-upside, low-risk move by the franchise.

Nearly a full season later, Robinson has emerged as one of the best shot-blockers in the league. He’s second in the NBA in blocks per game (2.44) and now has 22 straight games of at least two blocks, after swatting two more Sunday against the Clippers. He has become one of the few bright spots for the woebegone Knicks.

“He really has a timing and a technique that I don’t know if I’ve seen in a 20-year-old that sat out a year of basketball,” coach David Fizdale said. “I don’t know if I’ve seen that before, to be that good at something. That’s very difficult. And to be able to do it in a way that saves possessions. He had one (Friday night) that he kept inbounds out of those blocks. The one led to the dunk. That’s just a real talent to be able to do that.”

Robinson’s elite production comes from a combination of different attributes. He’s 7-foot tall, with a 7-4 wingspan. He’s a dynamic athlete, with sky-high leaping ability. He’s also nimble and quick on his size-14 feet.

Fizdale says Robinson is a quick study, picking up and digesting information quickly. But shot-blocking is an inherent skill for Robinson. He has become a top rim protector despite a year spent working out in empty gymnasiums and a two years of high school in New Orleans playing against competition that could have hardly prepared him for the NBA.



“Some of that is just natural,” Fizdale said. “The timing and all of that stuff, that’s natural stuff. He walked in here with timing everything. The fact that he naturally already just instinctually says, ‘oh left hand block versus the right hand block because it’s the right hand to use.’ Those are things that you can teach some of that stuff but man, he walked in the door with a lot of that. The biggest thing with him was understanding what was going on around him and how fast the action was coming at him. And over the course of the year, it seems like that he’s adjusted to that really well.”

Robinson, just 20, has already made himself a foundation piece for the Knicks. Fizdale believes that he will become a defensive player of the year candidate if he can work himself into a player who can average 30-plus minutes a game. For now, though, the Knicks can revel in their second-round find.

To find out how Robinson has become such a good shot-blocker so early in his career, The Athletic showed him seven of his blocks and asked him to explain what he did, how he did it, and why he does it so well. So here’s a video session with Mitchell Robinson on Mitchell Robinson’s blocked shots.

Let’s start with the James Harden block. What do you think when he iso’s on you at the top of the key and looks like he’s trying to do his usual Harden stuff?

We watch a lot of film and I also get with other guys. They’ll pretty much give me an input like information on what he likes to do, what moves he likes to do. So I took that in. Then in my head I’m “Get ready for the step-back, get ready for the step-back.” When he decided to do the step-back I was already there. I gapped him a little bit because if I had gotten a little bit closer I’m pretty sure he’s a little bit faster than me, maybe, he would just beat me to the rim. So I had to gap him up a little bit and I’m long enough where at least if I can’t block the shot I can get a good contest.

You’ve seen Harden embarrass a couple of defenders up there. Are you worried about that at all and not making a highlight?

Yeah, he got a lot of highlights on people but I wasn’t really worried about it. It’s basketball. It happens. That’s just basketball.

This is the double block from you on Aaron Gordon last month. You did something that you did a lot of, which is coming out to the perimeter and blocking a 3, then trailing him to the basket as well.

I know that we were redding on that one. On picks, Coach wanted us to red. They did that same play like right before that. So I’m like “OK, he might try to do the same thing. Let me try to get up a little bit.” As soon as he came off the screen and I’ve seen him go into his little shot so I went, “OK let me contest that.” I went for it and I got it. Then the second one, when he got it right back, I don’t know, I just chased him down on that one.

Are you comfortable guarding guys on the perimeter now? It’s something you’ve done a lot of.

Yeah, I don’t got no problem with it. If someone put a move on me, they just do. It’s basketball.

This is from November. I don’t know if you remember this one. You come out, you’re down on the ground underneath the basket and you still block that.

DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE KEEPS TRACK OF BLOCKED SHOTS BY LOCATION BUT MITCHELL ROBINSON'S PENCHANT FOR BLOCKING 3S IS A CALLING CARD NOW. HERE'S BLOCK NO. 8 LAST NIGHT, ON JERIAN GRANT. LOOK AT HOW MUCH SPACE HE EATS UP. HE WAS DOWN ON THE FLOOR UNDER THE HOOP BEFORE GRANT CAUGHT IT. PIC.TWITTER.COM/9YGJDXCIIT

— MIKE VORKUNOV (@MIKEVORKUNOV) NOVEMBER 12, 2018

That one was not supposed to be my rotation but I saw a wide open guy and I saw the problem. So I had to go at least try — multiple efforts — and luckily I got it.

If you’re down on the ground under the basket and they kick it out in the corner when he’s wide open, nobody would have said something.

As I’ve seen the ball get swung … As I seen the ball get right there I got up … There’s too many people. Mario (Hezonja) is going to have to take him and ‘Zo (Trier) got them two so I had to help them make efforts.

Nobody would’ve killed you if you stopped on the play.

Yeah, but we’re already down. Why not just try.

I don’t know if you remember this one in Summer League. The thing that’s impressive about this, like the previous one, is how much ground you make up on the play. Can you go through the process?

THIS BLOCK BY MITCHELL ROBINSON IS NUTS. LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF GROUND HE COVERS AFTER DEFENDING THE PICK-AND-ROLL. PIC.TWITTER.COM/LLMLJ2WPRL

— KEVIN O'CONNOR (@KEVINOCONNORNBA) JULY 11, 2018

I’ve seen that someone took my guy. Billy (Garrett) took my guy and then he was wide open so I just ran straight to the corner. As I was going he was already in the air, ready to shoot. So I just blocked it, grabbed the rebound and went the other way.

Are the plays like that and the one against the Magic, is that more a credit to your athleticism or to the effort level?

I’ve done it a few times, me playing basketball. I would say it’s my athleticism. I give credit to that.

You’re also blocking a lot of shots with your off-hand. It seems like this one you could’ve gotten right-handed.

OH Y'KNOW, JUST ANOTHER EASY-PEASY LEFT-HANDED BLOCK BY MITCHELL ROBINSON PIC.TWITTER.COM/YKIOOJ48OS

— POSTING AND TOASTING (@PTKNICKSBLOG) MARCH 5, 2019

I don’t know. Because my right hand probably got stuck to the net probably because I had to turn my body. I probably got hit by the rim or the net. My left hand was on that side.

Why do you block so many shots left-handed? [Robinson is a natural right-hander]

I really do not know. I used to block all with my right before I got here.

What changed?

I don’t know … High school was always right. Then I got here it’s always left.

Do you notice which hand you block with? Or which hand you should go up with?

Now, I think, in my head I go off the top shoulder.

What are you thinking on this play against Derrick Rose?

MITCHELL ROBINSON JUST BLOCKED THE CRAP OUT OF D-ROSE FOR HIS SECOND BLOCK OF THE NIGHT, AND I'M HAPPY NOW PIC.TWITTER.COM/7GK9C7PX6S

— POSTING AND TOASTING (@PTKNICKSBLOG) MARCH 11, 2019

I prepared myself for that. The first time we played him he kept doing the floater so I was pretty sure when he comes through this lane he’ll try to do it again.

So you’ve memorized a lot of the plays how you played them before. How good is your memory that you remember all that?

It’s like 50/50 because at the same time we watch film and that refreshed me. We watch a lot of film. It refreshed me on how to play these guys.

You come out to trap on Devin Booker here and you rotate all the way over. When you come out to trap are you thinking my job here is to contain the point guard or ball-handler or is my job here to get back to the rim as fast as I can?

It’s really to get back to my guy. Kick the guard out because nine times out of 10 the people that I’m guarding are going to be bigger, stronger than our point guard. So I try to get back to my guy so I can kick my point guards out. He was driving so I had to step up. He wasn’t going to get a free dunk.

Josh Jackson is obviously trying to come in and posterize you because he thinks maybe you’re out of position. Do you think about it in terms of you might not have the best position but I gotta come up and my athleticism and length make up for it?

I think my length makes up for it.

Is it intentional that you block shots inbounds?

[Robinson nods yes.]

This is the last one. This is you on De’Aaron Fox. When you’re switched on a guard or helping on one, what are you trying to do? Stay in front of him? Lure him to get that shot up?

I’m not trying to let him score. Try to clog up the paint as much as I can. When they just go up if I know a guard has kind of gotten beat a little bit I’ll come over and help him out a little bit.

Anyone you’ve watched trying to be a better shot-blocker or is this natural for you?

It’s just natural.
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Post#151 » by K_ick_God » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:14 pm

The honest truth is that you want to believe the best about people — especially a rookie — but you don’t really know till you know.

KP seemed like a great kid but he’s off for my tastes. Buys into the social media and popularity buzz just a wee too much.

Competitivess seems on the wane. Power struggles and getting to your comfort zone seem like the in thing.
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Post#152 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:05 pm

These BPM numbers on Robinson are legitimately stunning. There are lots of rookies that come into the league, flash bright, and then eventually turn into stars as measured by that stat.

But almost UNIVERSALLY, no matter how good a guy eventually becomes their BPM will be atrocious as rookies - and sometimes even a year or two after that. No matter what you think about BPM as an evaluation tool, or even Mitch's specific production as measured by it, It is wildly intriguing that Mitch is at an historical level in a statistic that notoriously destroys rookies (they even mention it in the Bref glossary).

That was part of the appeal of KP to me his rookie season despite the horrific shooting - his BPM was actually above 0 (it was 0.2 both his rookie and sophomore seasons, then went to -0.7 in the year he hurt himself).

Meanwhile, here are the rookies since the inception of the 3P line to play as many minutes as Mitch (1100) and post a BPM over 5:

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There's not a single non-star in there. So the Knicks either have the first guy in the modern NBA to fool the BPM metric, Mitch is doing something genuinely unique that BPM picks up on (not likely considering the raw data is gleaned from the box), or the Knicks have an NBA star on their hands.
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Post#153 » by awy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:07 pm

even rpm has mitch as one of the best rookies. pipm is even higher.
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Post#154 » by K_ick_God » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:27 pm

And he hasn’t really made any offensive moves yet lol. Or maybe it’s because of that.

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Post#155 » by awy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:02 pm

the limited role definitely helps but it’s not like he can get that high simply by avoiding bad plays. per 36 min, he actually is a pretty serious rim running threat and still has so much realistic improvement yet to be made.

the 538 article is trash/fluff but it’s whatever. more attention for mitch is yay, even though the writer doesnt get the really unique and important part of mitch’s skills in perimeter agility and the sheer area of the court he can deny when mitch evolves into perfect mitch.
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Post#156 » by RHODEY » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:25 pm

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Lord... no one else on that,list is even withing 13 years of Mitch. He's tied with the youngest. And Im guessing everyone else had atleast one year of College ball. He's gonna be that guy.
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Post#157 » by god shammgod » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:29 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:These BPM numbers on Robinson are legitimately stunning. There are lots of rookies that come into the league, flash bright, and then eventually turn into stars as measured by that stat.

But almost UNIVERSALLY, no matter how good a guy eventually becomes their BPM will be atrocious as rookies - and sometimes even a year or two after that. No matter what you think about BPM as an evaluation tool, or even Mitch's specific production as measured by it, It is wildly intriguing that Mitch is at an historical level in a statistic that notoriously destroys rookies (they even mention it in the Bref glossary).

That was part of the appeal of KP to me his rookie season despite the horrific shooting - his BPM was actually above 0 (it was 0.2 both his rookie and sophomore seasons, then went to -0.7 in the year he hurt himself).

Meanwhile, here are the rookies to play as many minutes as Mitch (1100) and post a BPM over 5:

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There's not a single non-star in there. So the Knicks either have the first guy in the modern NBA to fool the BPM metric, Mitch is doing something genuinely unique that BPM picks up on (not likely considering the raw data is gleaned from the box), or the Knicks have an NBA star on their hands.


look at the company mitch keeps. and you motherf*ckers still going half on a bag of weed with the company you keep. ban yourself for trying to live in mitch's world.
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Post#158 » by Context » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:50 pm

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Lord... no one else on that,list is even withing 13 years of Mitch. He's tied with the youngest. And Im guessing everyone else had atleast one year of College ball. He's gonna be that guy.

This is precisely why I would never trade him for AD and he's been on my untouchable list for months...
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Post#159 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:12 am

My favorite Mitch saying now is "It's basketball"
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Lord... no one else on that,list is even withing 13 years of Mitch. He's tied with the youngest. And Im guessing everyone else had atleast one year of College ball. He's gonna be that guy.


As long as that guy isn't Rich Kelly
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