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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#141 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:14 pm

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Eskobar13 wrote:Does Bamba having a strong rookie season have any effect on Bol's stock?

I don't think it should, but can't help not seeing that being shoved down our throat's by the media during the last months before the draft.


It shouldn't. Two completely different players not sure why people are comparing them honestly outside the pan African names.

Probably closest thing to Bol in the league might be Thon but even then not a perfect comparison by any stretch. Hard to find a baseline for this kid.


Bol Bol has way more game than Thon Maker. Way more game.

Maker struggles to block shots and position himself for rebounds. Bol doesn't have that problem because he understands positioning, and unlike Maker, has big hands to secure rebounds. His big hands also help him to catch passes and finish around the rim, which Maker can't. Bol also is taller, with both a longer wingspan and standing reach.

Last but not least, Bol can put it on the floor and pullup. He has an array of moves for a player his age and height.


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Post#142 » by Ruzious » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:30 pm

I think it's crazy to write him off defensively at this point. Yeah, he's not quick, but neither was Tim Duncan. Even Brook Lopez has become a solid defender, and Bol's quicker than Lopez. When you have his kind of length - as well as a good knowledge of positioning and body control, you can be an effective rim protector. And he just turned 19, so he's going to get stronger - even if he doesn't have a classic athletic body.

What's impressed me is his consistency - especially considering all the previous criticism he's gotten for not hustling and not looking intense.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#143 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:55 pm

Ruzious wrote:I think it's crazy to write him off defensively at this point. Yeah, he's not quick, but neither was Tim Duncan. Even Brook Lopez has become a solid defender, and Bol's quicker than Lopez. When you have his kind of length - as well as a good knowledge of positioning and body control, you can be an effective rim protector. And he just turned 19, so he's going to get stronger - even if he doesn't have a classic athletic body.

What's impressed me is his consistency - especially considering all the previous criticism he's gotten for not hustling and not looking intense.


His frame is horrible and his defensive awareness is pretty “meh” (at best) as well. Better in iso than expected, though.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#144 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:23 pm

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Ruzious wrote:I think it's crazy to write him off defensively at this point. Yeah, he's not quick, but neither was Tim Duncan. Even Brook Lopez has become a solid defender, and Bol's quicker than Lopez. When you have his kind of length - as well as a good knowledge of positioning and body control, you can be an effective rim protector. And he just turned 19, so he's going to get stronger - even if he doesn't have a classic athletic body.

What's impressed me is his consistency - especially considering all the previous criticism he's gotten for not hustling and not looking intense.


His frame is horrible and his defensive awareness is pretty “meh” (at best) as well. Better in iso than expected, though.


I think recognition and awareness can be improved some. If it does, given his athleticism and length he could potentially be an elite rim protector/help defender. Where I see him struggling is when a bulldog like Julius Randle can get under him and just keep backing him down with no issue.
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Post#145 » by CP War Hawks » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:55 pm

He seems to be putting some meat on those gangling legs. I don't think he can give you a solid 30 mpg a night, more closer to 20 which will be a problem for a top ten pick.

He's shooting 52% from three, and 75.5% at the line. Just from that alone, he's the top center on my board. I want to withhold final thoughts until he gets checked out at the combine.
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Post#146 » by frothbrain » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:56 am

he's the best prospect.
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Post#147 » by Funcrusher » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:08 am

frothbrain wrote:he's the best prospect.

lol, I don't know what some people are watching.
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Post#148 » by frothbrain » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:09 am

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frothbrain wrote:he's the best prospect.

lol, I don't know what some people are watching.

a young kevin durant
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Post#149 » by Funcrusher » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:12 am

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frothbrain wrote:he's the best prospect.

lol, I don't know what some people are watching.

a young kevin durant

um... have you actually watched his games?
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Post#150 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:24 am

i feel like people would have him higher if his name wasnt Bol Bol lol
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Post#151 » by Stillwater » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:28 pm

Can't imagine a scenario where he goes in the top 10 in last years draft... but maybe in this one someone takes the gamble.
Personally would rather have Gafford or Fernando at this point for a low risk return & if I was to take a boom bust gamble I'd go Simi over Bol.
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Post#152 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:38 pm

Stillwater wrote:Can't imagine a scenario where he goes in the top 10 in last years draft... but maybe in this one someone takes the gamble.
Personally would rather have Gafford or Fernando at this point for a low risk return & if I was to take a boom bust gamble I'd go Simi over Bol.


i'm not in love with Bol but IMO he's a better prospect than 3 guys that went top 10 last year: Young, Knox and Bridges.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#153 » by Stillwater » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:43 am

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Stillwater wrote:Can't imagine a scenario where he goes in the top 10 in last years draft... but maybe in this one someone takes the gamble.
Personally would rather have Gafford or Fernando at this point for a low risk return & if I was to take a boom bust gamble I'd go Simi over Bol.


i'm not in love with Bol but IMO he's a better prospect than 3 guys that went top 10 last year: Young, Knox and Bridges.
yeah his ceiling is higher but much less likely to be attained considering how long his road to exceeding the level of impact required to value him in last yrs top 10 regardless of some questionable others taken that high last year esp with prospects taken later with just as much upside and higher floors
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Post#154 » by TurboTitan » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:41 am

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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#155 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:41 am

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Stillwater wrote:Can't imagine a scenario where he goes in the top 10 in last years draft... but maybe in this one someone takes the gamble.
Personally would rather have Gafford or Fernando at this point for a low risk return & if I was to take a boom bust gamble I'd go Simi over Bol.


i'm not in love with Bol but IMO he's a better prospect than 3 guys that went top 10 last year: Young, Knox and Bridges.
yeah his ceiling is higher but much less likely to be attained considering how long his road to exceeding the level of impact required to value him in last yrs top 10 regardless of some questionable others taken that high last year esp with prospects taken later with just as much upside and higher floors


I don't Bridges' or Knox's floor is that much higher than Bol's, if that. Certainly not Young's. Also Bol has comfortably been a better college player than either Bridge or Knox were.

don't get me wrong I still have my doubts on Bol but I think the idea that he wouldn't go top 10 last year is a little off.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#156 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:29 am

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Post#157 » by Stillwater » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:16 am

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i'm not in love with Bol but IMO he's a better prospect than 3 guys that went top 10 last year: Young, Knox and Bridges.
yeah his ceiling is higher but much less likely to be attained considering how long his road to exceeding the level of impact required to value him in last yrs top 10 regardless of some questionable others taken that high last year esp with prospects taken later with just as much upside and higher floors


I don't Bridges' or Knox's floor is that much higher than Bol's, if that. Certainly not Young's. Also Bol has comfortably been a better college player than either Bridge or Knox were.

don't get me wrong I still have my doubts on Bol but I think the idea that he wouldn't go top 10 last year is a little off.

Yeah your'e right there a lot of bad gm's that would have taken him in the top 10 just like Young getting taken when they valued another pick over Luka and players like Knox getting picked for upside before better prospects like Miles Bridges or Huerter.
Bol should go anywhere from 6-12 imo but I'm not sold he won't be over picked as a result in the long run.
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Post#158 » by doordoor123 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:54 am

TurboTitan wrote:Thon Maker 2.0


He’s much better than Thon ever was.
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Post#159 » by Hoopz Afrik » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:32 pm

TurboTitan wrote:Thon Maker 2.0


Based on what exactly?
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