Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe?

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Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe?

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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#141 » by Axl Rose » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:05 pm

I just can't picture another logo.

Well not one that doesn't look like some knockoff.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#142 » by JimmerAllStar » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:29 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:I expect them to name the all star mvp award after him


The "Kia Motors Kobe Bryant MVP award" has a nice ring to it.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#143 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:35 pm

I think it would be cool if they used a kobe logo for like a year or something. Good idea.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#144 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:43 pm

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:I mean, you can debate what you want to call it. They found DNA, that part isn't in question.


Yes and Kobe's defense was that it was consensual. The lady also admitted to lying to the police, was wearing underwear that contained a Caucasian man's semen and pubic hair and didn't testify in court.

You left out the part where his wife was pregnant at home while he was out philandering.

His DNA was in there too or he wouldn't have settled. It was just she couldn't prove it wasn't consensual...and he couldn't prove it was. So he threw money at it to make it go away.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#145 » by shakes0 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:47 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:I mean, you can debate what you want to call it. They found DNA, that part isn't in question.


Yes and Kobe's defense was that it was consensual. The lady also admitted to lying to the police, was wearing underwear that contained a Caucasian man's semen and pubic hair and didn't testify in court.

You left out the part where his wife was pregnant at home while he was out philandering.

His DNA was in there too or he wouldn't have settled. It was just she couldn't prove it wasn't consensual...and he couldn't prove it was.



#1: The fact that "his wife was pregnant at home" has zero relevance to the accusation of rape.

#2: It's not his job to prove the sex was consensual. That's not how rape charges work. It's the State's job to prove there wasn't consent. The State couldn't do that so they dropped the case. Hence, it is factually incorrect to call Kobe a rapist since he was never tried or convicted of such a charge.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#146 » by THE J0KER » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:51 pm

NBA logo is a globally recognizable brand, and it is just a fun fact that some former existing player was a model when it is created. But if they put Kobe Bryant on a new logo - it will be a "Kobe Bryant sign". That is the reason why I think the old logo should stay, or if they insist to put some famous player on the logo not just as a model for basketball-player silhouette, but in the honor of that player - it MUST BE Michael Jordan! This is my two cents about this subject.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#147 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:54 pm

shakes0 wrote:#1: The fact that "his wife was pregnant at home" has zero relevance to the accusation of rape.

#2: It's not his job to prove the sex was consensual. That's not how rape charges work. It's the State's job to prove there wasn't consent. The State couldn't do that so they dropped the case. Hence, it is factually incorrect to call Kobe a rapist since he was never tried or convicted of such a charge.

1: No, but it sure speaks to his character.

2: Would you settle if somebody called you a rapist? I sure wouldn't.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#148 » by Pennebaker » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:57 pm

Kobe is not logo material - he's like the last guy they'd consider. The league would just get complaints.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#149 » by shakes0 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:59 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
shakes0 wrote:#1: The fact that "his wife was pregnant at home" has zero relevance to the accusation of rape.

#2: It's not his job to prove the sex was consensual. That's not how rape charges work. It's the State's job to prove there wasn't consent. The State couldn't do that so they dropped the case. Hence, it is factually incorrect to call Kobe a rapist since he was never tried or convicted of such a charge.

1: No, but it sure speaks to his character.

2: Would you settle if somebody called you a rapist? I sure wouldn't.



1. Has ZERO relevance when assessing someone's innocence or guilt for rape.

2. I'd be unhappy about it, but if I was a public figure and the alternative was a long drawn out civil trial where witnesses would be testifying to destroy my character then yes, I'd want to settle to avoid that public spectacle at all costs.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#150 » by thomchatt3rton » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:05 pm

THE J0KER wrote:NBA logo is a globally recognizable brand, and it is just a fun fact that some former existing player was a model when it is created. But if they put Kobe Bryant on a new logo - it will be a "Kobe Bryant sign". That is the reason why I think the old logo should stay, or if they insist to put some famous player on the logo not just as a model for basketball-player silhouette, but in the honor of that player - it MUST BE Michael Jordan! This is my two cents about this subject.


Totally agree. Couldnt have said it better myself.


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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#151 » by Mickey8 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:06 pm

If they change it, it shoud be Jordan on it.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#152 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:09 pm

shakes0 wrote:
1. Has ZERO relevance when assessing someone's innocence or guilt for rape.

2. I'd be unhappy about it, but if I was a public figure and the alternative was a long drawn out civil trial where witnesses would be testifying to destroy my character then yes, I'd want to settle to avoid that public spectacle at all costs.

I'm not making a statement on if it was consensual or not...I wasn't in the room. I don't know.

However, he was still with this chick in a hotel room while is wife is home pregnant. That's not good.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#153 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:16 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
shakes0 wrote:
1. Has ZERO relevance when assessing someone's innocence or guilt for rape.

2. I'd be unhappy about it, but if I was a public figure and the alternative was a long drawn out civil trial where witnesses would be testifying to destroy my character then yes, I'd want to settle to avoid that public spectacle at all costs.

I'm not making a statement on if it was consensual or not...I wasn't in the room. I don't know.

However, he was still with this chick in a hotel room while is wife is home pregnant. That's not good.


His wife forgave him - they were far past that obviously
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#154 » by agkagk » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:22 pm

Ni Da Ye wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:To a rapist? Nah.



So mod can say something like this, but a ban will be issued to a nobody account for the same comment?



I’ve never seen a mod troll this hard. :crazy:
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#155 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:24 pm

azcatz11 wrote:His wife forgave him - they were far past that obviously

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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#156 » by agkagk » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:35 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Reporters and Activists Are Being Harassed for Saying Kobe Bryant Was Credibly Accused of Rape

He was an incredible player and also credibly accused of rape. Both of those things can be true.



Being definitively ACCUSED of something, isn’t the same as being GUILTY of something.

Siting some hack piece of an article that has its own clear political agenda and justifying it to have the arrogance and toxicity to pull this none sense, is straight TRIFLING.

At least the bs author of that bs article is sponsored by a political agenda.

You’re talking like your some kind of a mind reader who’s all knowing. But what’s behind these comments? Why at this time?

At best your too ignorant to know that your passing your opinions/biases/complete ignorance for the legal system as facts. At worst your speaking ill of the dead just to stroke your own stick.

Either way, your what we call in Greek; a malaka.

King of the jerk-off’s bud.

No matter what you do, or what you say, your just stroking your own stick.
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#157 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:38 pm

agkagk wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Reporters and Activists Are Being Harassed for Saying Kobe Bryant Was Credibly Accused of Rape

He was an incredible player and also credibly accused of rape. Both of those things can be true.



Being definitively ACCUSED of something, isn’t the same as being GUILTY of something.

Siting some hack piece of an article that has its own clear political agenda and justifying it to have the arrogance and toxicity to pull this none sense, is straight TRIFLING.

At least the bs author of that bs article is sponsored by a political agenda.

You’re talking like your some kind of a mind reader who’s all knowing.

At best your too ignorant to know that your passing your opinions/biases/complete ignorance for the legal system as facts. At worst your speaking ill of the dead just to stroke your own stick.

Either way, your what we call in Greek; a malaka.

King of the jerk-off’s bud.

No matter what you do, or what you say, your just stroking your own stick.


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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#158 » by holdenwait » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:40 pm

%100 yes from my perspective.
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Post#159 » by gorz » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:41 pm

Less than a day after kobe's tragic passing ppl (kobe haters) can not have even the slightest bit of humanity or decency to show some respect for the dead instead have bring up his past to win a trivial argument as to why he shouldn't be the logo. :nonono:
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Re: Should Jerry West turn over the NBA Logo to Kobe? 

Post#160 » by daswunderboy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:41 pm

shakes0 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
shakes0 wrote:

No, being incorrectly called a rapist is not part of his legacy. The criminal case was dropped and they settled the civil suit without any admission of guilt.

If you're not going to show any class and respect for the recently deceased, at least show some respect for the criminal laws and due process of this country.

Pathetic.


Nah, I'll go on considering him a rapist.


if he was still alive and you existence registered more than a bug on his windshield he could sue you for libel and take all your assets which I assume is about $10.


Libel: a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation

Kobe would have to prove it's a lie (difficult, given the settlement and his statement after the fact), and prove it damaged his reputation (difficult, since being a possible rapist is long part of his reputation).

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