Current roster

[edmunder_prc]

Edited:

Rose / Wright / Hayes / Lee / Hands
Svi / Jackson / McGruder / Smith
Grant / Bey / Musa / King
Griffin / Sekou
Plumlee / Stewart / Okafor

I think Lee and Hands actually can both be the two ways.

If Rose gets traded or is injured (near 100% one of those two happen), the team will need PGs.

If Griffin is hurt or traded (high likelihood for both) the team is stacked at PF. Bey, Sekou, Grant can all play big minutes there.

I really like the idea of Bey, Sekou and Grant on the floor together. They all have that similar size at 6'8"/6'9" with a good wingspan, can switch onto most guys, all can do a little of everything.

Either small ball with Hayes/Wright/Jackson as the two guards, all are tall and can play defense.

Or with Plumlee and Hayes/Wright.

[Snakebites]

The only even slight chance Blake is traded is if he isn’t hurt.

Even then it’s a long shot.

[zeebneeb]

From the looks of this team so far I feel im safe in thinking that it's going to be fun to watch, but is also going to lose a ton of games, IF, Hayes needs a year to get going. As I've stated before, I believe Hayes was the best player in the 2020 draft(he also has 3 years pro experience mind you)so he could come out ready to go, making this team better then anyone thought it could be.

Looking past the wierd and questionable moves there's no denying the team is young, and fast, filled with high draft picks that need time to shine, or finally fizzle out. If the team starts veterans I'm out though. Not interested in that whatsoever.

On to the 2021 draft, and hopefully a top 1 pick.

[bstein14]

Once we get to the trade deadline, Blake's contract situation becomes much more reasonable for a team to take a chance on. Just need him to be healthy and play well for the first 40 games of the season and there will be at least some minimal interest in him if we want to give him away for smaller shorter contracts.

[Pharaoh]

Edited:

Rose / Wright / Hayes / Lee / Hands
Svi / Jackson / McGruder / Smith
Grant / Bey / Musa / King
Griffin / Sekou
Plumlee / Stewart / Okafor

I think Lee and Hands actually can both be the two ways.

If Rose gets traded or is injured (near 100% one of those two happen), the team will need PGs.

If Griffin is hurt or traded (high likelihood for both) the team is stacked at PF. Bey, Sekou, Grant can all play big minutes there.

I really like the idea of Bey, Sekou and Grant on the floor together. They all have that similar size at 6'8"/6'9" with a good wingspan, can switch onto most guys, all can do a little of everything.

Either small ball with Hayes/Wright/Jackson as the two guards, all are tall and can play defense.

Or with Plumlee and Hayes/Wright.

This is kinda why I found the anger towards Weaver so bizarre:

We went into the Draft & Free Agency lacking at point guard and lacking wings that are versatile and switchable.

Weaver then went out and got:

Hayes, Wright, Jackson, Bey, Musa, Grant

Not all these kids are going to develop but we've got more shots at it than most.

Yeah ok we lost Wood but it's weird he's being held up as a franchise cornerstone when very few here wanted to pay him anything above 12-15 mil



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[edmunder_prc]

Once we get to the trade deadline, Blake's contract situation becomes much more reasonable for a team to take a chance on. Just need him to be healthy and play well for the first 40 games of the season and there will be at least some minimal interest in him if we want to give him away for smaller shorter contracts.

If I were Coach/GM/had any power. I would put Blake on a minutes and game restriction (if he can play).

Let him play 20-24 minutes. Have him be the point forward, pass, shoot 3s, try to play like a Jokic.

He doesnt play on back to backs. He rests occasional games, just for no reason. Let him rest on long away trips the last two games.

I imagine he will look good in those minutes (if hes not done) and maybe he can play himself onto a contender. Maybe he doesnt want that? People are weird. Derrick Rose didnt want to go to the Lakers who just won a championship, right?

[Pharaoh]

Ideal rotation with Rose/Blake:

Hayes 24 Rose 24 = rookie gets the start, Rose gets enough minutes to keep him healthy and his trade value high

Wright 16 Svi 16 Jackson 16 = time share but we start with the better ball handler, bring in shooting then the "bit of everything" kid as well.

Grant 32, Bey 16 = Grant gets his shots and expanded role, Bey gets his time.

Blake 20 Sekou 28 = Sekou gets the bulk of the minutes to shine...

Plumlee 22, Blake 6, Stewart 20 = start the traditional big, have Blake maxed out at 26 minutes to keep him healthy, Stewart gets his time to be Trez II.

Yeah it's a 11 man rotation but only Musa misses out on minutes here. So he'd be my 12th man and can play the 2 or 3 if anyone at the 2, 3 or 4 is stinking up the joint too much.

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[Pharaoh]

Ideal rotation with Rose/Blake:

Hayes 24 Rose 24 = rookie gets the start, Rose gets enough minutes to keep him healthy and his trade value high

Wright 16 Svi 16 Jackson 16 = time share but we start with the better ball handler, bring in shooting then the "bit of everything" kid as well.

Grant 32, Bey 16 = Grant gets his shots and expanded role, Bey gets his time.

Blake 20 Sekou 28 = Sekou gets the bulk of the minutes to shine...

Plumlee 22, Blake 6, Stewart 20 = start the traditional big, have Blake maxed out at 26 minutes to keep him healthy, Stewart gets his time to be Trez II.

Yeah it's a 11 man rotation but only Musa misses out on minutes here. So he'd be my 12th man and can play the 2 or 3 if anyone at the 2, 3 or 4 is stinking up the joint too much.

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****, realised I didn't include Smith at all!

We got so many guys who deserve a shot.

Need to trade Rose for nothing so we can give Wright those PG minutes and give Smith the SG start

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[Piston Pete]

Maybe Smith was left off due to your ESP kicking in and knowing we’d be waive/stretching the kid.

And I doubt Casey plays Hayes meaningful minutes at PG with vets like Rose and Wright likely both ahead of him - at least to start the season.

[BadMofoPimp]

Maybe, by signing all these big men centers, other teams may be in the need of a center in the months to come and the Pistons can gather more late 1st round and 2nd round picks via trade mid season?

[The Moose]

Maybe, by signing all these big men centers, other teams may be in the need of a center in the months to come and the Pistons can gather more late 1st round and 2nd round picks via trade mid season?

we only have plumlee, okafor and stewart now

[Uncle Mxy]

Need to trade Rose for nothing

We need to trade Rose for a future first.

Of course, Weave-boy would turn around and have us go all-in on some player to be waived later.

[thesack12]

Need to trade Rose for nothing

We need to trade Rose for a future first.

Of course, Weave-boy would turn around and have us go all-in on some player to be waived later.

I think you're on to something here.

The new term of a player being put on waivers and stretched, should be called being put on "Weavers."

[Piston Pete]

Instead of being “waived,” that player will forever be known to have been “weaved”

[Kilo]

Instead of being “waived,” that player will forever be known to have been “weaved”

In the very least Stretch-waiving a player should be "Weavering".

[440BB]

There has to be a time limit for proper Weavering. I'd say within 48 hours of being signed.

[Piston Pete]

Leave it to Weaver

[Kilo]

I suspect we'll hear that Grant is being brought in in part as a small ball five. Looking at the minutes played for Plumlee at 20mpg and Jah @ 15mpg (and only 30 games) there is going to be a lot of minutes available at center. I don't think you throw Stewart into 15 minutes a game right away, even if you do all you can to control his match-ups.

I'm betting we could see Grant at Ce for 15 minutes a game, with Griffin and a SF in the front court.

Plumlee and Grant are the rotation centers with Jah getting the scraps until Stewart is ready for those minutes.

[Piston Pete]

I suspect we'll hear that Grant is being brought in in part as a small ball five. Looking at the minutes played for Plumlee at 20mpg and Jah @ 15mpg (and only 30 games) there is going to be a lot of minutes available at center. I don't think you throw Stewart into 15 minutes a game right away, even if you do all you can to control his match-ups.

I'm betting we could see Grant at Ce for 15 minutes a game, with Griffin and a SF in the front court.

Plumlee and Grant are the rotation centers with Jah getting the scraps until Stewart is ready for those minutes.

I get what you’re saying and there may be some validity there, maybe

But I just threw up a bit in my mouth



If we wanted/needed a C, we could have dealt with Christian Wood.

[edmunder_prc]

I suspect we'll hear that Grant is being brought in in part as a small ball five. Looking at the minutes played for Plumlee at 20mpg and Jah @ 15mpg (and only 30 games) there is going to be a lot of minutes available at center. I don't think you throw Stewart into 15 minutes a game right away, even if you do all you can to control his match-ups.

I'm betting we could see Grant at Ce for 15 minutes a game, with Griffin and a SF in the front court.

Plumlee and Grant are the rotation centers with Jah getting the scraps until Stewart is ready for those minutes.

I am very interested in Bey, Sekou and Grant playing together as the 3/4/5 for small ball.

With Hayes/Wright/Jackson in the mix at the 1/2. Wright and Hayes are average shooters, but with those two and Bey, Sekou, Grant its shooters at every position with defense.

Of course it all depends on matchups and Grant is probably not ready for Gobert, but a lot of teams go small in the 4th quarter. This team has the potential to be very interesting in a small ball format.