Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV

[knickstape4ever]

We’re not going to make any big signings. We’re saving for 2021

And selling people on what?

they don't really need to sell anybody on anything, they're the Knicks + arenas will be empty/limited capacity

if they continue to avoid major signings its because of 2 things 1) weak FA class 2) strong 2021 draft

but if you need to be sold, how about this: right now, we're looking like a bottom 5 team, which would put us in position to land a very good pick. Obviously, getting #1 and Cade would be great, but the class is deep and there's BJ Boston, Jalen Green, and Ziaire Williams, etc. After getting 1, our young core would be very, very strong.

I think we're 1 draft away from the Knicks turning things around

[F N 11]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

[robillionaire]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

this isn't a real rebuild, look at what OKC is doing for an example of a real rebuild

[mpharris36]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

this isn't a real rebuild, look at what OKC is doing for an example of a real rebuild

to be fair OKC had desirable pieces. CP3, Oubre, Adams

Julius Randle isn't worth jack sh*t on the open market.

[HerSports85]

Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol

I've always wanted to play the kids and tank.
My issue is that if this is the direction they take, what they did in the draft made absolutely no sense. They drafted older players and gave away the 33rd. A tanking team would have taken projects (maybe avdija and hampton perhaps) and used that 33rd pick instead of bringing in vets like alec burks. I thought they had a good draft if the context was that they were trying to win. If they're trying to tank I'm scratching my head at what they did

I think the plan was to still bring in draft picks that’s ready to contribute right away. If we are expecting RJ and Mitch to make a leap next year, we need our draft picks to be on the same page.

We’re not in the taking on projects stage, we skipped that part when RJ and Mitch showed glimpses last year. I think this year is about building a culture and teaching the young guys how to win.

This is not a long rebuild. It’s basically moving all our chips to 2021, which I have zero problems with. This is the draft and FA you want to be a major player in.

[F N 11]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

this isn't a real rebuild, look at what OKC is doing for an example of a real rebuild

No, that’s called cleaning house and not caring about this season. They have Shai and that’s it. We have Mitch, RJ, Obi, and others. It’s clear there’s a lot of people who don’t like their own players. Just don’t hop on the bandwagon when players look really good this year with competent coaching.

[knickstape4ever]

Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol

I've always wanted to play the kids and tank.
My issue is that if this is the direction they take, what they did in the draft made absolutely no sense. They drafted older players and gave away the 33rd. A tanking team would have taken projects (maybe avdija and hampton perhaps) and used that 33rd pick instead of bringing in vets like alec burks. I thought they had a good draft if the context was that they were trying to win. If they're trying to tank I'm scratching my head at what they did

understandable point. I thought trading away #33 was a head scratcher as well. I know they got the 2023 2nd in the potential HS draft, but they need talent now + they have 3 other 2nds that year

Agreed on Hampton too, I wanted him at 23 and was hoping he'd be there at 25. w/ Obi, I think maybe the logic is they want a player that they know can play so that this team is more prepared in 2021/22 when they expect to be better

[knickstape4ever]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

rebuild sells me. there is nothing I'd like to see more than a homegrown knicks team

[F N 11]

Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol

I've always wanted to play the kids and tank.
My issue is that if this is the direction they take, what they did in the draft made absolutely no sense. They drafted older players and gave away the 33rd. A tanking team would have taken projects (maybe avdija and hampton perhaps) and used that 33rd pick instead of bringing in vets like alec burks. I thought they had a good draft if the context was that they were trying to win. If they're trying to tank I'm scratching my head at what they did

I think the plan was to still bring in draft picks that’s ready to contribute right away. If we are expecting RJ and Mitch to make a leap next year, we need our draft picks to be on the same page.

We’re not in the taking on projects stage, we skipped that part when RJ and Mitch showed glimpses last year. I think this year is about building a culture and teaching the young guys how to win.

This is not a long rebuild. It’s basically moving all our chips to 2021, which I have zero problems with. This is the draft and FA you want to be a major player in.

Frank- project
Dsj- Project
Knox-project

Mitch- project but ready
RJ- ready

Not sure why people want to sign people just to say we get a new player for them to chit on in a month.

[snadler]

Pelicans have Ball, Bledsoe and Hill at pg and Knicks can’t find one..

[NYKnickerbocker]

I've always wanted to play the kids and tank.
My issue is that if this is the direction they take, what they did in the draft made absolutely no sense. They drafted older players and gave away the 33rd. A tanking team would have taken projects (maybe avdija and hampton perhaps) and used that 33rd pick instead of bringing in vets like alec burks. I thought they had a good draft if the context was that they were trying to win. If they're trying to tank I'm scratching my head at what they did

I think the plan was to still bring in draft picks that’s ready to contribute right away. If we are expecting RJ and Mitch to make a leap next year, we need our draft picks to be on the same page.

We’re not in the taking on projects stage, we skipped that part when RJ and Mitch showed glimpses last year. I think this year is about building a culture and teaching the young guys how to win.

This is not a long rebuild. It’s basically moving all our chips to 2021, which I have zero problems with. This is the draft and FA you want to be a major player in.

Frank- project
Dsj- Project
Knox-project

Mitch- project but ready
RJ- ready

Not sure why people want to sign people just to say we get a new player for them to chit on in a month.

one person in there isn’t a project

[3toheadmelo]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

You don’t even want a rebuild. You want the Knicks to sign a washed up Hayward

[knickstape4ever]

Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol

I've always wanted to play the kids and tank.
My issue is that if this is the direction they take, what they did in the draft made absolutely no sense. They drafted older players and gave away the 33rd. A tanking team would have taken projects (maybe avdija and hampton perhaps) and used that 33rd pick instead of bringing in vets like alec burks. I thought they had a good draft if the context was that they were trying to win. If they're trying to tank I'm scratching my head at what they did

I think the plan was to still bring in draft picks that’s ready to contribute right away. If we are expecting RJ and Mitch to make a leap next year, we need our draft picks to be on the same page.

We’re not in the taking on projects stage, we skipped that part when RJ and Mitch showed glimpses last year. I think this year is about building a culture and teaching the young guys how to win.

This is not a long rebuild. It’s basically moving all our chips to 2021, which I have zero problems with. This is the draft and FA you want to be a major player in.

+ if they're expecting another top 10 pick, which it's looking like, they'll be selecting a freshman. a core of RJ, Mitch, Obi, + a 19 y/o is still very young

[NYKnickerbocker]

Pelicans have Ball, Bledsoe and Hill at pg and Knicks can’t find one..

Pretty much the whole last decade every other teams backup Pg would start for us lol, some third stringers too

[YungKnicks]

Knicks should give Toppins teammate Jalen Crutcher a camp invite. 47/42/87 line 15ppg 5apg

Watch on YouTube

[F N 11]

Sell people? Lol you guys never been through a real rebuild and it’s clear y’all rather build a team through free agency.

You don’t even want a rebuild. You want the Knicks to sign a washed up Hayward

To the right deal yes. We don’t have a SF if RJ is not playing there. Knox is still a question Mark. You only sign guys if it makes sense. Not because you want to just throw money away.

[knickstape4ever]

Knicks should give Toppins teammate Jalen Crutcher a camp invite. 47/42/87 line 15ppg 5apg

he's returning to school. also not sure he's even considered an NBA caliber prospect

[KnicksGadfly]

I think no matter who we sign, if kids look like scrubs, we have no chance in 2021.

Actually, the Mills and Perry plan had some merit to it. They just had a terrible understanding of basketball. That’s how the only signing that worked out was Morris and possibly Bullock. There should be some vets that we can sign that actually know how to play basketball and will have trade value later, but at the least, they need to have some 3&D capability or grizzled vet I will help you in the playoffs status.

So if we miss the big guns, I’d take a look at Millsap, Augustine, perhaps Crowder. They can all play complementary roles, some can play defense, and they can be valued by contenders.

My other plan is to sign Markieff Morris, have Marcus switch places with him for a year to help him get a fat contract and then trade Markieff for another pick. The parent trap special.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Why is everyone talking about the 2021 free agency class? We're not going to be a player in that one, the top guys are:

Giannis
LeBron
Kawhi
PG13
Gobert

Let's be real here, we're not getting any of these guys, and we wouldn't want Gobert. Please let the Giannis dream go, he either signs the supermax with the Bucks or has a chance to play with Luka, why the hell would he pick us over that?

[BrOnXKing1]

Prob can get Hill from the Thunder for a 2nd round pick or just just nothing. Has only this year guaranteed left on his contract