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Post#141 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:31 am

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phillybird wrote:For some reason he reminds me of a slightly more athletic, smaller Evan Turner. Aka his close shots will be blocked very often unless he learns how to shoot from the outside


You think? I know it's just the GLeague, but he looks like he has a Maxey-esque ability to score in the paint, although he gets there in a different way.


He knows how to create space with his body like ET or Jimmy, that’s why he is compared to both. But is it good enough? I dont know
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Post#142 » by blargh » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:11 am

Turner is a pretty good comp; I hadn’t thought of it before, but I do see see it. They both rely on that spin move way too much. Turner obviously had the length/ height advantage, but probably less hops. But the main thing is if ET had ever managed to get better over his NBA career, he would have been a star with his tools. Hopefully Springer’s work ethic is closer to Butler than Turner.
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Post#143 » by DCasey91 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:35 am

G League is doo doo at gauging stuff, Reed won an MVP and he has NFI and is a bunch of clay in the NBA.

You know why? There’s zero pressure out there it’s glorified pickup ball. At least in College there’s do or die stuff on performing relative to expectation and international leagues it’s play for keeps no kids stuff allowed.

Probably better off finding elite roleplayers in the G league than actual great individual players imo.
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Post#144 » by DCasey91 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:39 am

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Possibly a guy who can be as good as Maxey’s scoring?

I don't think he'll ever have the one-on-one ability that Maxey has, but I think he's better in every other way.

Springer is bigger, a better natural distributor, a much better defender, and even though he's also a reluctant shooter, he has a slightly better shooting profile than Maxey.

If both of them embrace the three point shot in due time, we'll be set up nicely. My money is on Springer being the better player on both ends.


So Springer won’t be on this team 3 years from now. Thanks Kobble whatever player examination you state the opposite comes true. Cheers!
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Post#145 » by ankle420breaker » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:51 am

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Possibly a guy who can be as good as Maxey’s scoring?
Looks like he bodied up Cooper on several plays and just bullied his way to the basket. Definitely adept at absorbing contact and maintaining body control around the rim.

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Post#146 » by stormi » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:23 pm

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Post#147 » by Kobblehead » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:34 pm

21st ranked defense, but help is on the way.

If Springer and Reed develop a willing trigger from three, they're championship level starters.

Sling it like there's no tomorrow, young fellas. We need that shooting trait fast cooked.
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Post#148 » by DCasey91 » Wed Dec 1, 2021 12:07 am

Kobble you have some wild takes but this tops the lot.

My bet is both Reed & Springer will be out of the league/average to below average bench players that can be replaced.

I reckon you haven’t been right on anything on predictions. Are you Charles Barkley?
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Post#149 » by mjkvol » Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:14 pm

Kobblehead wrote:21st ranked defense, but help is on the way.

If Springer and Reed develop a willing trigger from three, they're championship level starters.

Sling it like there's no tomorrow, young fellas. We need that shooting trait fast cooked.


Starters? Especially Reed, who could be a viable bench piece if he develops any kind of 3 ball. I don't agree with DCasey about Springer being out of the league because the kid works hard and has some valuable skills already, but he has a lot of work to do from the perimeter to even stick in the league long term much less start at a championship level.
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Post#150 » by Eyeamok » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:06 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:

Possibly a guy who can be as good as Maxey’s scoring?

I don't think he'll ever have the one-on-one ability that Maxey has, but I think he's better in every other way.

Springer is bigger, a better natural distributor, a much better defender, and even though he's also a reluctant shooter, he has a slightly better shooting profile than Maxey.

If both of them embrace the three point shot in due time, we'll be set up nicely. My money is on Springer being the better player on both ends.


So Springer won’t be on this team 3 years from now. Thanks Kobble whatever player examination you state the opposite comes true. Cheers!


I think it is great when guys put an assessments out on a player and his development. You are either right or you are wrong. But it can sparks debate which is what we are all here for. Some people are married to always being right and some people never put a clear assessment out because they are always hedging and fear being wrong. Kobble may be wrong sometimes but he sometimes hits the nail on the head. I recall when he was all in on Cameron Payne. It took a while but the guy is a solid contributor now. So there is that. But that is just my opinion. What do I know !
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Post#151 » by Wilfried » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:11 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
I think it is great when guys put an assessments out on a player and his development. You are either right or you are wrong. But it can sparks debate which is what we are all here for. Some people are married to always being right and some people never put a clear assessment out because they are always hedging and fear being wrong. Kobble may be wrong sometimes but he sometimes hits the nail on the head. I recall when he was all in on Cameron Payne. It took a while but the guy is a solid contributor now. So there is that. But that is just my opinion. What do I know !


Don't we all make good and bad guesses?
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Post#152 » by Eyeamok » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:23 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
I think it is great when guys put an assessments out on a player and his development. You are either right or you are wrong. But it can sparks debate which is what we are all here for. Some people are married to always being right and some people never put a clear assessment out because they are always hedging and fear being wrong. Kobble may be wrong sometimes but he sometimes hits the nail on the head. I recall when he was all in on Cameron Payne. It took a while but the guy is a solid contributor now. So there is that. But that is just my opinion. What do I know !


Don't we all make good and bad guesses?


Nope not true....all my guesses are awful all the time.
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Post#153 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:54 pm

It's one thing when you admit that it's more or less a guess.
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Post#154 » by Kobblehead » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:53 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:21st ranked defense, but help is on the way.

If Springer and Reed develop a willing trigger from three, they're championship level starters.

Sling it like there's no tomorrow, young fellas. We need that shooting trait fast cooked.


Starters? Especially Reed, who could be a viable bench piece if he develops any kind of 3 ball. I don't agree with DCasey about Springer being out of the league because the kid works hard and has some valuable skills already, but he has a lot of work to do from the perimeter to even stick in the league long term much less start at a championship level.

I mean, Danny Green is a starting level championship player. That's not a huge benchmark.

Both Reed and Springer are fantastic defensive prospects. Only thing keeping them from being rotation players is their questionable fit into the offensive symmetry. An easy way to answer that question is to put 100% effort into developing a willing trigger from three.
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Post#155 » by mjkvol » Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:43 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:21st ranked defense, but help is on the way.

If Springer and Reed develop a willing trigger from three, they're championship level starters.

Sling it like there's no tomorrow, young fellas. We need that shooting trait fast cooked.


Starters? Especially Reed, who could be a viable bench piece if he develops any kind of 3 ball. I don't agree with DCasey about Springer being out of the league because the kid works hard and has some valuable skills already, but he has a lot of work to do from the perimeter to even stick in the league long term much less start at a championship level.

I mean, Danny Green is a starting level championship player. That's not a huge benchmark.

Both Reed and Springer are fantastic defensive prospects. Only thing keeping them from being rotation players is their questionable fit into the offensive symmetry. An easy way to answer that question is to put 100% effort into developing a willing trigger from three.


I wouldn't disagree with that, but more so with Springer. I see Reed's ceiling as a valuable bench 3&D energy guy whose primary value to contending teams would be his ability to guard a big offensive player like Giannis in big spots. Springer has the tools to be a solid NBA starter if (when) he develops a viable perimeter game.
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Post#156 » by stormi » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:48 pm



Still don't understand this player.
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Post#157 » by Mik317 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 7:07 pm

he still sucks

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Post#158 » by Kobblehead » Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:29 am

Always trust the traits, regardless of how underwhelming someone may look in SL. Springer just makes too much sense on paper to fail. The ONLY thing he needs is to become a willing shooter from three (albeit a big ask, as Maxey is showing us).
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Post#159 » by DCasey91 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:32 am

I reckon out of all the picks made the last couple of years Bassey might actually be the one to stick long term.

Korkmaz is only here virtue of TLC/Shamet sucking doodoo (though Shamet can shoot which is better for us). Smith was Smith

Bolden actually had it and the tools but he went walkabouts

And Thybulle can’t offense to save himself. We have been worst in comp on the guard/wing drafting. It’s Maxey and that’s it in what five going on six years lol. Milton don’t know what he did to his shot now it looks like a shotput.

Reed is still all clay no stone, and Joe unlucky for him is played out of and not tried in his saving grace position (3+D guard that’s it).

Springer is a ??? Pick.

At some point there needs to be an overhaul in the drafting/developmental department. Can’t keep bringing in rotational vet roleplayers. Need to actually develop young players or subvert that and grab other younger players for other teams and giving them a go once the team that they are on has done the developing bit. Wish Morey did more of that there’s plenty around that’s chomping at the bit for it.

We need a Curry replacement hint hint Simons.
We need a Green replacement or we didn’t need Green in the first place with Bridges. Harris let him go for nothing in FA

Team would look grouse if we actually just did less instead of more lol

Anyway back to Jaden. Everyone looks like a stud in G League. G League is glorified pickup ball can’t read too much into it.
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Post#160 » by stormi » Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:19 pm

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