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Post#141 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:12 am

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Paradise wrote:Holy **** DeRozan to the Bulls!

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Bulls have really been awful the past couple years.

-Drastically overpaid for Vucevic, who then proved what we knew (empty stats/D liability)
-Alienated Markanen after botching his development and he is now gone for nothing
-Wasted cap on thad young, overpaid him
-Sold low on Carter Jr, got diminishing returns including him with picks
-busted on 5 straight first rounders
-Trade even more future firsts for derozan, on an overpay, on a lotto team
-almost for sure threw away any shot of retaining lavine by adding a fraud like vuc and blowing picks

terrible.

Yeah, it’s really a shame what happened to Markannen after a very promising rookie year. They completely ruined his development.

I don’t even know what to say about Derozan deal. He’s still a 2pt player in a 3pt game. People thought he would end up being a sneaky MLE signing for a contender or playoff team, since there would be no way that a team would spend a sizable amount of cap space on him.

The fact that he got a 3yr deal averaging almost $30mil/season is crazy. What takes it to ridiculous levels of insanity is the fact that the Bulls gave up three picks including a 1st as well as Al-Farouq Aminu and Thad Young, who the Spurs can keep as decent players or move on as assets. That is mind-boggling!
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Post#142 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:11 am

MrDollarBills wrote:What are we looking at here in terms of vet min pick ups? There's got to be a big and a shooter left for us to grab.


One pipedream I have is to somehow get Josh Hart, the restricted free agent from the Pelicans. But between having no money I know it's never happening.
I'm not delusional haha. But I think he would be a perfect addition as a tough wing defender and he is a terrific rebounder for his height. Two big needs for the Nets as they are currently constructed. But onto more feasible options.

There are still some three point shooters out there that would make sense to help spread the floor for the big 3 and provide insurance in case of injury. I'd be extremely happy with Danny Green or Bryn Forbes, but JJ Reddick makes sense too. And it sounds like the Nets could easily obtain Reddick if they pursued him from everything I read about him wanting to play for a championship and being close to his family.

I don't see too many names for big men that stand out in terms of what Nash is looking for out of the center. The Nets already have one non-shooting center in Claxton. So I don't think Nash and company would bring in a second one, but if they did I wouldn't mind Hassan Whiteside as a rim protector. I think in the right situation he could be successful, just not on the Nets offense. I also like Khem Birch too for rebounding and a rim protector, but same non-shooting problem. Maybe Paul Millsap makes better sense as a solid post defender and a small ball 5. He'd make more sense for the Nets.

I still think the absolutely biggest need that still remains is a bigger wing defender. Bruce Brown is great for smaller or skinner offensive minded wings. But when it comes to guys like Lebron James, Jayson Tatum, Paul George, Kawahi Leonard (when healthy), and Luka to an extent (depending on how the team wants to defend him). There aren't too many names that can perform this task available for the veteran minimum at this point in time, but I'll just throw out a couple names and see if one sticks. Justice Winslow or RHJ. A non guaranteed 1 year deal on either of those two wouldn't be the worst thing.
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Post#143 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:24 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:What are we looking at here in terms of vet min pick ups? There's got to be a big and a shooter left for us to grab.


One pipedream I have is to somehow get Josh Hart, the restricted free agent from the Pelicans. But between having no money I know it's never happening.
I'm not delusional haha. But I think he would be a perfect addition as a tough wing defender and he is a terrific rebounder for his height. Two big needs for the Nets as they are currently constructed. But onto more feasible options.

There are still some three point shooters out there that would make sense to help spread the floor for the big 3 and provide insurance in case of injury. I'd be extremely happy with Danny Green or Bryn Forbes, but JJ Reddick makes sense too. And it sounds like the Nets could easily obtain Reddick if they pursued him from everything I read about him wanting to play for a championship and being close to his family.

I don't see too many names for big men that stand out in terms of what Nash is looking for out of the center. The Nets already have one non-shooting center in Claxton. So I don't think Nash and company would bring in a second one, but if they did I wouldn't mind Hassan Whiteside as a rim protector. I think in the right situation he could be successful, just not on the Nets offense. I also like Khem Birch too for rebounding and a rim protector, but same non-shooting problem. Maybe Paul Millsap makes better sense as a solid post defender and a small ball 5. He'd make more sense for the Nets.

I still think the absolutely biggest need that still remains is a bigger wing defender. Bruce Brown is great for smaller or skinner offensive minded wings. But when it comes to guys like Lebron James, Jayson Tatum, Paul George, Kawahi Leonard (when healthy), and Luka to an extent (depending on how the team wants to defend him). There aren't too many names that can perform this task available for the veteran minimum at this point in time, but I'll just throw out a couple names and see if one sticks. Justice Winslow or RHJ. A non guaranteed 1 year deal on either of those two wouldn't be the worst thing.


Milsap/Reddick probably wait as long as possible. once everyone signs and some teams are left the MLE and no one ot spend it on. those 2 can always sign for a minimum with a contender, they will wait for a good spot plus payday. id love either or both.

Birch is nice, but i dont see us adding another big. Whiteside to me is a downgrade from any of our bigs.

I think defensively we are good with the moves made so far.
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Re: 2021 NBA Free Agency Tracker 

Post#144 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:41 am

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Packers+NetsWIN wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:What are we looking at here in terms of vet min pick ups? There's got to be a big and a shooter left for us to grab.


One pipedream I have is to somehow get Josh Hart, the restricted free agent from the Pelicans. But between having no money I know it's never happening.
I'm not delusional haha. But I think he would be a perfect addition as a tough wing defender and he is a terrific rebounder for his height. Two big needs for the Nets as they are currently constructed. But onto more feasible options.

There are still some three point shooters out there that would make sense to help spread the floor for the big 3 and provide insurance in case of injury. I'd be extremely happy with Danny Green or Bryn Forbes, but JJ Reddick makes sense too. And it sounds like the Nets could easily obtain Reddick if they pursued him from everything I read about him wanting to play for a championship and being close to his family.

I don't see too many names for big men that stand out in terms of what Nash is looking for out of the center. The Nets already have one non-shooting center in Claxton. So I don't think Nash and company would bring in a second one, but if they did I wouldn't mind Hassan Whiteside as a rim protector. I think in the right situation he could be successful, just not on the Nets offense. I also like Khem Birch too for rebounding and a rim protector, but same non-shooting problem. Maybe Paul Millsap makes better sense as a solid post defender and a small ball 5. He'd make more sense for the Nets.

I still think the absolutely biggest need that still remains is a bigger wing defender. Bruce Brown is great for smaller or skinner offensive minded wings. But when it comes to guys like Lebron James, Jayson Tatum, Paul George, Kawahi Leonard (when healthy), and Luka to an extent (depending on how the team wants to defend him). There aren't too many names that can perform this task available for the veteran minimum at this point in time, but I'll just throw out a couple names and see if one sticks. Justice Winslow or RHJ. A non guaranteed 1 year deal on either of those two wouldn't be the worst thing.


Milsap/Reddick probably wait as long as possible. once everyone signs and some teams are left the MLE and no one ot spend it on. those 2 can always sign for a minimum with a contender, they will wait for a good spot plus payday. id love either or both.

Birch is nice, but i dont see us adding another big. Whiteside to me is a downgrade from any of our bigs.

I think defensively we are good with the moves made so far.


I'm just worried about the Nets depth at the center. No more Jeff Green as a small ball 5. Blake Griffin probably won't see huge minutes in the regular season as the Nets will want to keep him healthy and fresh for the playoffs. Between that, routine maintence days where he doesn't suit up, and his injury history, there will be center minutes available. Nicolas Claxton is obviously still young, but he has also been injury prone in his college career and his NBA career thus far. Plus his non-shooting probably keeps him at low minutes for certain game plans and situations. I'd feel comfortable with one additional body who can play the 5. I know James Johnson is capable, but I like his playmaking, defensive IQ, and toughness at the 4 spot. I agree with you completely, Millsap would be great. If Griffin or Claxton miss extended, I don't have complete faith in Sharpe (who I am high on potential wise) or Jordan (assuming he is still on the team) to be a everyday rotation player.
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Post#145 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:44 am

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Packers+NetsWIN wrote:
One pipedream I have is to somehow get Josh Hart, the restricted free agent from the Pelicans. But between having no money I know it's never happening.
I'm not delusional haha. But I think he would be a perfect addition as a tough wing defender and he is a terrific rebounder for his height. Two big needs for the Nets as they are currently constructed. But onto more feasible options.

There are still some three point shooters out there that would make sense to help spread the floor for the big 3 and provide insurance in case of injury. I'd be extremely happy with Danny Green or Bryn Forbes, but JJ Reddick makes sense too. And it sounds like the Nets could easily obtain Reddick if they pursued him from everything I read about him wanting to play for a championship and being close to his family.

I don't see too many names for big men that stand out in terms of what Nash is looking for out of the center. The Nets already have one non-shooting center in Claxton. So I don't think Nash and company would bring in a second one, but if they did I wouldn't mind Hassan Whiteside as a rim protector. I think in the right situation he could be successful, just not on the Nets offense. I also like Khem Birch too for rebounding and a rim protector, but same non-shooting problem. Maybe Paul Millsap makes better sense as a solid post defender and a small ball 5. He'd make more sense for the Nets.

I still think the absolutely biggest need that still remains is a bigger wing defender. Bruce Brown is great for smaller or skinner offensive minded wings. But when it comes to guys like Lebron James, Jayson Tatum, Paul George, Kawahi Leonard (when healthy), and Luka to an extent (depending on how the team wants to defend him). There aren't too many names that can perform this task available for the veteran minimum at this point in time, but I'll just throw out a couple names and see if one sticks. Justice Winslow or RHJ. A non guaranteed 1 year deal on either of those two wouldn't be the worst thing.


Milsap/Reddick probably wait as long as possible. once everyone signs and some teams are left the MLE and no one ot spend it on. those 2 can always sign for a minimum with a contender, they will wait for a good spot plus payday. id love either or both.

Birch is nice, but i dont see us adding another big. Whiteside to me is a downgrade from any of our bigs.

I think defensively we are good with the moves made so far.


I'm just worried about the Nets depth at the center. No more Jeff Green as a small ball 5. Blake Griffin probably won't see huge minutes in the regular season as the Nets will want to keep him healthy and fresh for the playoffs. Between that, routine maintence days where he doesn't suit up, and his injury history, there will be center minutes available. Nicolas Claxton is obviously still young, but he has also been injury prone in his college career and his NBA career thus far. Plus his non-shooting probably keeps him at low minutes for certain game plans and situations. I'd feel comfortable with one additional body who can play the 5. I know James Johnson is capable, but I like his playmaking, defensive IQ, and toughness at the 4 spot. I agree with you completely, Millsap would be great. If Griffin or Claxton miss extended, I don't have complete faith in Sharpe (who I am high on potential wise) or Jordan (assuming he is still on the team) to be a everyday rotation player.


Center is one of our deepest spots. We have Deandre Jordan getting DNPs. say what you want about DJ, but he is avg or better NBA backup center and still a top 10 pick and roll finishing big who rebounds. what thats your 4th/5th center you are golden.

Blake
Claxton
James Johnson (more of a center then green was)
DJ
Sharpe

thats 5 deep. If we have depth issues its at F. Harris/Brown at SF and KD/Johnson at PF. could use another F for sure
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Post#146 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:14 am

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Packers+NetsWIN wrote:
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Milsap/Reddick probably wait as long as possible. once everyone signs and some teams are left the MLE and no one ot spend it on. those 2 can always sign for a minimum with a contender, they will wait for a good spot plus payday. id love either or both.

Birch is nice, but i dont see us adding another big. Whiteside to me is a downgrade from any of our bigs.

I think defensively we are good with the moves made so far.


I'm just worried about the Nets depth at the center. No more Jeff Green as a small ball 5. Blake Griffin probably won't see huge minutes in the regular season as the Nets will want to keep him healthy and fresh for the playoffs. Between that, routine maintence days where he doesn't suit up, and his injury history, there will be center minutes available. Nicolas Claxton is obviously still young, but he has also been injury prone in his college career and his NBA career thus far. Plus his non-shooting probably keeps him at low minutes for certain game plans and situations. I'd feel comfortable with one additional body who can play the 5. I know James Johnson is capable, but I like his playmaking, defensive IQ, and toughness at the 4 spot. I agree with you completely, Millsap would be great. If Griffin or Claxton miss extended, I don't have complete faith in Sharpe (who I am high on potential wise) or Jordan (assuming he is still on the team) to be a everyday rotation player.


Center is one of our deepest spots. We have Deandre Jordan getting DNPs. say what you want about DJ, but he is avg or better NBA backup center and still a top 10 pick and roll finishing big who rebounds. what thats your 4th/5th center you are golden.

Blake
Claxton
James Johnson (more of a center then green was)
DJ
Sharpe

thats 5 deep. If we have depth issues its at F. Harris/Brown at SF and KD/Johnson at PF. could use another F for sure


I was hoping DJ gets moved in the Dinwiddie deal, if that deal ever gets done haha. And with DJ is gone, any long term injury to Claxton and/or Griffin would deplete the depth fast. But I agree with you, if the Nets keep Jordan then the center spot is good for the time being.

Any forwards out there you like?
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Post#147 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:41 am

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I'm just worried about the Nets depth at the center. No more Jeff Green as a small ball 5. Blake Griffin probably won't see huge minutes in the regular season as the Nets will want to keep him healthy and fresh for the playoffs. Between that, routine maintence days where he doesn't suit up, and his injury history, there will be center minutes available. Nicolas Claxton is obviously still young, but he has also been injury prone in his college career and his NBA career thus far. Plus his non-shooting probably keeps him at low minutes for certain game plans and situations. I'd feel comfortable with one additional body who can play the 5. I know James Johnson is capable, but I like his playmaking, defensive IQ, and toughness at the 4 spot. I agree with you completely, Millsap would be great. If Griffin or Claxton miss extended, I don't have complete faith in Sharpe (who I am high on potential wise) or Jordan (assuming he is still on the team) to be a everyday rotation player.


Center is one of our deepest spots. We have Deandre Jordan getting DNPs. say what you want about DJ, but he is avg or better NBA backup center and still a top 10 pick and roll finishing big who rebounds. what thats your 4th/5th center you are golden.

Blake
Claxton
James Johnson (more of a center then green was)
DJ
Sharpe

thats 5 deep. If we have depth issues its at F. Harris/Brown at SF and KD/Johnson at PF. could use another F for sure


I was hoping DJ gets moved in the Dinwiddie deal, if that deal ever gets done haha. And with DJ is gone, any long term injury to Claxton and/or Griffin would deplete the depth fast. But I agree with you, if the Nets keep Jordan then the center spot is good for the time being.

Any forwards out there you like?


DJ wilson, Milsap we mentioned, Bembry.
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Post#148 » by brook » Wed Aug 4, 2021 9:44 am

Ciao guys, here the best free agents left on the market:

Spencer Dinwiddie
Dennis Schroder
Lou Williams
Reggie Jackson
Mike James
Raul Neto
Elfryid Payton
Langston Galloway
Frank Ntilikina
Dennis Smith Jr

Danny Green
Victor Oladipo
Avery Bradley
Etwaun Moore
Terence Davis
JJ Redick
Dante Exum
Tyler Johnson
Svi Mikhailiuk

Paul Millsap
Andre Iguodala
Kelly Oubre
James Ennis
Isaac Bonga
Wesley Matthews
Justise Winslow
Stanley Johnson
Mike Scott
Denzel Valentine
Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Patrick Patterson
Michael Beasley

Khem Birch
Bismarck Biyombo
Enes Kanter
Willy Hernangomez
Demarcus Cousins
Frank Kaminsky
Moritz Wagner
Marquese Chriss
Tony Bradley
Meyers Leonard
Harry Giles
DJ Wilson
Isaiah Hartenstein
Ed Davis

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Hamidou Diallo
Josh Hart
John Collins
Lauri Markkanen

I think defensive veteran players are not enough in our situation, so Paul Millsap, Danny Green, Andre Iguodala, Wesley Matthews and even James Ennis will be great additions. Avery Bradley seems like Bruce Brown with a little bit of jump shot, but the others are better because they are able to defend multiple positions.

If we able to dump Jordan, both Khem Birch and Bismarck Biyombo can be useful backup center. Maybe Tony Bradley also?

And Svi Mikhailiuk can be a Shamet's replacement.

Raul Neto is ok like defensive-minded third string PG.
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Post#149 » by Sharcm1 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:02 am

Bring back Ed Davis.
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Post#150 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:58 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Bring back Ed Davis.


I love Ed, but it doesn't look like he's healthy anymore.

I think we're done as far as centers go. The more I look into Sharpe, the more I think people on here are underestimating that kid.
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Post#151 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:02 pm

How about Mike Scott? He had a down year last year though.
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Post#152 » by Paradise » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:24 pm

Avery Bradley, Paul Millsap and Igoudala are the best vet min options to improve our defense.

Hopefully, we can add Pope through the Dinwiddie trade as well.

I also wouldn’t mind throwing a 1 year deal to Winslow to rehab his game.
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Post#153 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:58 pm

Paradise wrote:Avery Bradley, Paul Millsap and Igoudala are the best vet min options to improve our defense.

Hopefully, we can add Pope through the Dinwiddie trade as well.

I also wouldn’t mind throwing a 1 year deal to Winslow to rehab his game.


If we could get Pope and Milsap I think we'll be set.
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Post#154 » by brook » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:59 pm

I always loved Paul Millsap!
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Post#155 » by Paradise » Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:04 pm

WOJ BOMB: Knicks sign Kemba Walker

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Post#156 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 3:06 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Sharcm1 wrote:Bring back Ed Davis.


I love Ed, but it doesn't look like he's healthy anymore.

I think we're done as far as centers go. The more I look into Sharpe, the more I think people on here are underestimating that kid.


I outlined earlier the centers taken the past 5 years. if you include even the lotto guys like Bamba, Hayes, Carter Jr most havent made an impact/impact yet and few even saw early minutes, on much worse teams. even if sharpe pans out, the idea he helps this year to me is an extreme long shot. if he got more then 0 playoff minutes, id be surprised. doesnt mean he cant be good longterm, but this year... doubt it
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Post#157 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 3:07 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:Avery Bradley, Paul Millsap and Igoudala are the best vet min options to improve our defense.

Hopefully, we can add Pope through the Dinwiddie trade as well.

I also wouldn’t mind throwing a 1 year deal to Winslow to rehab his game.


If we could get Pope and Milsap I think we'll be set.


Pope makes too much. milsap would be good on the minimum.

people need to stop thiking bradley and iggy are good defensively. its been years since either was even decent.
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Post#158 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 3:07 pm

Paradise wrote:WOJ BOMB: Knicks sign Kemba Walker

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More awful knicks moves.

Cant wait til kemba pouts and thibs runs rose into the ground 40 minutes cause kemba cant defend
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Post#159 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 4, 2021 5:18 pm

Paradise wrote:WOJ BOMB: Knicks sign Kemba Walker

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Yo Kemba was awful when we last saw him :lol: why are the Knicks so ashy?
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Post#160 » by Prokorov » Wed Aug 4, 2021 5:21 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:WOJ BOMB: Knicks sign Kemba Walker

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Yo Kemba was awful when we last saw him :lol: why are the Knicks so ashy?


they got crushed by fans/media for the awful first day of free agency and cap mismanagement (they could have used cap, then gone over for rose/burks/noel).

they need some good PR. this is a PR. kemba is a loved local guy with name value fans can talk them selves into being a good thing.

worst offseason for the knicks in decades

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