Enes Kanter shoes in tonight’s game had LeBron bowing to China.

[DaFan334]

Then point anything close to Iraq,Libya,Syria,Yemen etc. that China have done to other countries. You can't because they never done it .

What? Not sure what you are trying to say? Usual close-minded or just totally ignorant post...

[MambaVenom24]

I absolutely despise Enes Kanter the basketball player, he is a below average nba player by all standards, sometimes thuggish behaviour on the court, if there is a melee he is always there to instigate it, I am in no way a fan he is a role player.

That being said I have to say kudos to him for his approach and the way he singled out one of the biggest hypocrites to ever lace them up --> also he should have done it when the whole morey lebron saga began, but good for him for sticking it to the social justice warrior wannabe. **** china and their supporters ...

[Tracymcgoaty]

I absolutely despise Enes Kanter the basketball player, he is a below average nba player by all standards, sometimes thuggish behaviour on the court, if there is a melee he is always there to instigate it, I am in no way a fan he is a role player.

That being said I have to say kudos to him for his approach and the way he singled out one of the biggest hypocrites to ever lace them up --> also he should have done it when the whole morey lebron saga began, but good for him for sticking it to the social justice warrior wannabe. **** china and their supporters ...

Enes Kanter is gettng money from a team part of the association in partnership with China. But pointing fingers at Lebron is always the easiest route. And i disliked what Lebron did.

[Mickey8]

The question is clear as the day. Point the country which China , have bombed in the last 30 years , destroyed that country entire economy as the result of the bombings and plundering , killed hundreds of thousands civilians , and entirely occupied that country like the USA and NATO forces did to numerous countries throughout the world.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Then point anything close to Iraq,Libya,Syria,Yemen etc. that China have done to other countries. You can't because they never done it .

What? Not sure what you are trying to say? Usual close-minded or just totally ignorant post...

It's OK for the Chinese gov't to execute its citizens for free thinking because America did the Iraq thing, I think was the point.
Unfortunately.

[Mickey8]

I absolutely despise Enes Kanter the basketball player, he is a below average nba player by all standards, sometimes thuggish behaviour on the court, if there is a melee he is always there to instigate it, I am in no way a fan he is a role player.

That being said I have to say kudos to him for his approach and the way he singled out one of the biggest hypocrites to ever lace them up --> also he should have done it when the whole morey lebron saga began, but good for him for sticking it to the social justice warrior wannabe. **** china and their supporters ...

He already made million of dollars, his career is going rapidly down to the toilet, the only way he can draw some attention to himself is to act like se is some kind of activist who "cares" about injustice in China, while the country in which he lives is committing crimes around the world on the daily basis, he's just a stooge for the military industrial complex , he's not brave , he's useful for FOX NEWS, CNN , who are seeking hard for another armed conflict with the foreign country.

[jazzed77]

Not sure if already posted, if so mods please merge/delete. I looked and didn’t see a thread page 1 or 2, but maybe I missed it. This is definitely an interesting situation brewing between these two currently.

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Mad respect to Enes Kanter. He appears to have more in common with Martin Luther King Jr than Lebron does, in terms of standing up for people's lives, freedom and civil rights.

I'm too old to wear colorful sneakers like those but I have to admit they look pretty cool too.

MLKj sacrificed. What has Kanter sacrificed? Nothing at all. It’s easy to talk when you have nothing on the line. He is still collecting NBA checks. Wearing Nikes.

Isn't Kanter essentially never allowed to go home due to his stance against the things going on in turkey? Seems like a sacrifice

[Mickey8]

Then point anything close to Iraq,Libya,Syria,Yemen etc. that China have done to other countries. You can't because they never done it .

What? Not sure what you are trying to say? Usual close-minded or just totally ignorant post...

It's OK for the Chinese gov't to execute its citizens for free thinking because America did the Iraq thing, I think was the point.
Unfortunately.

The USA government is executing their own citizens abroad and on their own soil, lots of droned united states citizens in the middle East

[Mickey8]

Mad respect to Enes Kanter. He appears to have more in common with Martin Luther King Jr than Lebron does, in terms of standing up for people's lives, freedom and civil rights.

I'm too old to wear colorful sneakers like those but I have to admit they look pretty cool too.

MLKj sacrificed. What has Kanter sacrificed? Nothing at all. It’s easy to talk when you have nothing on the line. He is still collecting NBA checks. Wearing Nikes.

Isn't Kanter essentially never allowed to go home due to his stance against the things going on in turkey? Seems like a sacrifice

He was supporting the coup in Turkey, he was close with Erdogan's main enemy who lives in the USA and he is not that good of a guy either .

[jazzed77]

People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.

Here. Let me help you with your confusion.

https://www.vox.com/world/2019/11/13/20941804/enes-kanter-nba-turkey-erdogan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2902445-enes-kanter-gets-thousands-of-death-threats-daily-from-erdogan-supporters

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/15/18624628/enes-kanter-turkey-erdogan-nba-playoffs-trailblazers

This guy can't go back to Turkey - Erdogan's thugs would probably "disappear" him. Turkey had an Interpol "Red Notice" (kind of an arrest warrant) out for Kanter because of Kanter's outspoken criticism of one of the most dangerous autocrats in the world - a guy who has at his disposal an army that is ranked the 11th most powerful in the world. A guy who either strongarmed or (more likely) outwitted Trump (admittedly, not hard to do) into getting the US to pull out of Syria and sacrifice the Kurds in the process.

These comments about China are small potatoes for Kanter.

Thanks for posting the links...wish more people realized what Kanter has risked/sacrificed for his beliefs

[LAL1947]

The question is clear as the day. Point the country which China , have bombed in the last 30 years , destroyed that entire economy as the result of the bombing , killed hundreds of thousands civilians , and entirely occupied that country like USA and NATO forces did to numerous countries throughout the world.

I have already named 5 countries where China did all of the above (except bombing... as some of these take overs happening before bombs were used in warfare... and these countries did not have the military means to fight back against the Chinese military, so there was no need for bombs). They also haven't only killed hundreds of thousands but millions and millions of civilians, many more than the Nazis killed willfully. Two of those countries appear to have made peace with being absorbed into China (Manchuria and Yunnan), while I'm not sure where Southern Mongolians stand. However, Tibet and Turkestan vehemently oppose being part of China and being ruled by China.

I also think you need to define what you mean by entirely occupying. Do you see Iraqis in Iraq, Syrians in Syria, Libyans in Libya? I do. Do you see a US government ruling Iraq, Syria or Libya? Nopes. Or do you see governments there made up of their own people? Yup. On the other hand, how many Tibetans do you see in Tibet? Are most of them in India, where they had to flee to as refugees? This wasn't like Somalis fleeing Somalia to get away from their own. This was Tibetans fleeing Tibet because of China. Is there a Tibetan government ruling over Tibet or a Chinese one?

[mediocrityrules]

People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.

Seriously, most people need to do a bit of research on Kanter.

He is publicly outspoken on many issues. To the point that he had his Turkish passport revoked and he and his family were declared terrorists by the Turkish president, and he receives thousands of death threats a year, mainly from Turkey, after his pro-democracy stance flew in the face of the Turkish President.

He has risked his family over his views. He doesn't travel overseas anymore due to the threats on his life.

I don't want anyone on here being so ignorant to say that Enes Kanter doesn't ever risk anything to put his views across, and that he's not a man that doesn't stand for what he believes in.

[mediocrityrules]

People actually think Kanter is being brave? He’s not risking a single thing. This is so confusing.

Here. Let me help you with your confusion.

https://www.vox.com/world/2019/11/13/20941804/enes-kanter-nba-turkey-erdogan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2902445-enes-kanter-gets-thousands-of-death-threats-daily-from-erdogan-supporters

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/15/18624628/enes-kanter-turkey-erdogan-nba-playoffs-trailblazers

This guy can't go back to Turkey - Erdogan's thugs would probably "disappear" him. Turkey had an Interpol "Red Notice" (kind of an arrest warrant) out for Kanter because of Kanter's outspoken criticism of one of the most dangerous autocrats in the world - a guy who has at his disposal an army that is ranked the 11th most powerful in the world. A guy who either strongarmed or (more likely) outwitted Trump (admittedly, not hard to do) into getting the US to pull out of Syria and sacrifice the Kurds in the process.

These comments about China are small potatoes for Kanter.

Thanks for posting the links...wish more people realized what Kanter has risked/sacrificed for his beliefs

Thanks. I posted before reading the whole thread, so didn't see you raising the same point.

This is a man that stands for his convictions. I hate the guy as a basketballer, but as a person he stands tall on social justice.

[MrBigShot]

MLKj sacrificed. What has Kanter sacrificed? Nothing at all. It’s easy to talk when you have nothing on the line. He is still collecting NBA checks. Wearing Nikes.

Country, family, safety. Kanter's family essentially can't associate with him for their own safety. Kanter has literally refused to leave the country (London when the Knicks went there for example) for fear of being murdered or arrested. He's sacrificed a lot and put a target on his head. Not a we don't like this guy target either, his life is potentially in danger if he travels outside of the US. And as far as the NBA goes, teams certainly view any off the court distraction as negative so he's not doing himself any favors there.

LeBron has done a lot of good for social causes but he can't really say anything in this situation, because he knows Kanter is correct and the best LeBron can do is feign ignorance.

[Mickey8]

USA wrecked all those countries, by bombing, they overthrown different regimes and they installed their own puppets to rule those countries , their proxies, they literally occupied Iraq and Afghanistan , they had forces in Syria, they turned Libya into the world capital of slave trading, the USA military is present in the entire Middle East region. Please don't start with Tibet, China have historic ties with Tibet , Chinese people live and have lived in that region too. What are those five countries that China have wrecked in the last 30 years, please show me freaking example. Something that was comparable to USA and NATO deeds in the last 30 years???

[MambaVenom24]

I absolutely despise Enes Kanter the basketball player, he is a below average nba player by all standards, sometimes thuggish behaviour on the court, if there is a melee he is always there to instigate it, I am in no way a fan he is a role player.

That being said I have to say kudos to him for his approach and the way he singled out one of the biggest hypocrites to ever lace them up --> also he should have done it when the whole morey lebron saga began, but good for him for sticking it to the social justice warrior wannabe. **** china and their supporters ...

He already made million of dollars, his career is going rapidly down to the toilet, the only way he can draw some attention to himself is to act like se is some kind of activist who "cares" about injustice in China, while the country in which he lives is committing crimes around the world on the daily basis, he's just a stooge for the military industrial complex , he's not brave , he's useful for FOX NEWS, CNN , who are seeking hard for another armed conflict with the foreign country.

I see you have reading comprehension struggles, and that's ok, read the first part of my post again, if you want to press reply read it again and again and again until it sticks.

Also I see you are completely ignorant to reality mate, probably under 20 or in that area ,his country is I quote:

"while the country in which he lives is committing crimes around the world on the daily basis"

this one is disregarding the obvious facts that he is banned from his country and part of his family was at times arrested and had to publicly dettach from enes kanter's actions

Also your mental gymnastics are top notch in the next post as well, basically you are undermining your own ideas

He was supporting the coup in Turkey, he was close with Erdogan's main enemy who lives in the USA and is not that good of a guy either .

so let me get this straight one one hand his country is bad as **** and is committing war crimes , on the other hand the fact that he supports overthrowing the ruler of the country who is a criminal dictator is not good either because YOU KNOW FOR A FACT that "the other guy is not that good of a guy either" ... really , you can't make this **** up

thank you for providing me quality and cringey entertainment this morning, you can reply and have your last words I'm done arguing with you, probably you are mad that enes took a big brick and layed it out on your boy and you can't cope with it

[Mickey8]

Kanter lives in the United States as of now I think he;s the citizen too and he's not talking about atrocities USA is commuting around the world every day. Against the people who share his own religion, maybe different sect but the same Islamic religion.

Fethullah Gulen is the radical Islamic freak , do some research, he's not some nice tolerant guy either, do some research. If he was the leader of Turkey , he would have been dictator as well, and the minorities would safer even more under him.

[Tracymcgoaty]

MLKj sacrificed. What has Kanter sacrificed? Nothing at all. It’s easy to talk when you have nothing on the line. He is still collecting NBA checks. Wearing Nikes.

Country, family, safety. Kanter's family essentially can't associate with him for their own safety. Kanter has literally refused to leave the country (London when the Knicks went there for example) for fear of being murdered or arrested. He's sacrificed a lot and put a target on his head. Not a we don't like this guy target either, his life is potentially in danger if he travels outside of the US. And as far as the NBA goes, teams certainly view any off the court distraction as negative so he's not doing himself any favors there.

LeBron has done a lot of good for social causes but he can't really say anything in this situation, because he knows Kanter is correct and the best LeBron can do is feign ignorance.

But why is he singling out Lebron when it comes to NBA's involvements with China? Lebron doesn't broker deals .Kanter is playing for a team who's part of an association in partnership with China. Kanter has nothing to lose by doing this. Dude even went to Silver and asked if he was breaking any rules and Silver said no. So there are no consequences. What would happen if he accused the NBA?

What exactly is he risking right now? What is Xi Jinping gonna send an assassins to take him out at an NBA game?

[LAL1947]

USA wrecked all those countries, by bombing, they overthrown different regimes and they nstalled their own people to rule those countries , their proxies, they literally occupied Iraq and Afghanistan , they had forces in Syria, the USA military is present in the entire Middle East region. Please don't start with Tibet, China have historic ties with Tibet , Chinese people live and have lived in that region too. What are those five countries that China have wrecked in the last 30 years, please show me freaking example.

China has no historic ties with Tibet or the Tibetan race, except for the fact that they took over Tibet for military reasons (one of which was to have geographical control over the rivers that feed their rice plains), killed 1.2 million Tibetans, oppressed the rest, destroyed their temples and buildings, and made the Tibetans flee as refugees to India and other neighboring countries.

Sorry @Mods, I'm trying not to engage in political convos... but historical lies must be pointed out.

[MrBigShot]

MLKj sacrificed. What has Kanter sacrificed? Nothing at all. It’s easy to talk when you have nothing on the line. He is still collecting NBA checks. Wearing Nikes.

Country, family, safety. Kanter's family essentially can't associate with him for their own safety. Kanter has literally refused to leave the country (London when the Knicks went there for example) for fear of being murdered or arrested. He's sacrificed a lot and put a target on his head. Not a we don't like this guy target either, his life is potentially in danger if he travels outside of the US. And as far as the NBA goes, teams certainly view any off the court distraction as negative so he's not doing himself any favors there.

LeBron has done a lot of good for social causes but he can't really say anything in this situation, because he knows Kanter is correct and the best LeBron can do is feign ignorance.

But why is he singling out Lebron when it comes to NBA's involvements with China? Lebron doesn't broker deals .Kanter is playing for a team who's part of an association in partnership with China. Kanter has nothing to lose by doing this. Dude even went to Silver and asked if he was breaking any rules and Silver said no. So there are no consequences. What would happen if he accused the NBA?

What exactly is he risking right now? What is Xi Jinping gonna send an assassins to take him out at an NBA game?

With the bold you are asking if his life is in danger as of this moment, and the answer is no. But the question I answered asked what he sacrificed.

As to why he singled out LeBron, I think it's a fair criticism (since Kanter's teammates also have Nike deals) and comes down to 2 reasons: he hates LeBron, and LeBron is one of the faces of Nike.