Nets @ Heat 2-12-22 8:00 PM

[MrDollarBills]

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And yall are mad at Harden for leaving? This man right here is the main culprit of this season being derailed before it even began.

He doesn't give a damn. If you saw his manic twitter behavior a day or so ago, he made it quite clear that none of this means anything to him.

This is why yall look crazy for being so mad at Harden. I dont blame Harden for bailing. He knew that this situation was completely f*cked because of Kyrie.

Are you kidding me?

I'm so sick of you justifying Harden's disgusting behavior. He had KEVIN DURANT coming back in a few weeks.

And he decides to quit? Just cause hes mad about Kyrie? Who was playing in almost all the games anyway cause of our road trip?

What kind of player just openly quits on a team when they have another Superstar? On top of being out of shape and sucking all year?

Kyrie being an idiot is not justification for his behavior. Be a leader and work through it.

Who can work with this?

Watch on YouTube

Seriously, who is going to waste their prime years trying to win with this absolute lunatic? Kyrie is absolutely delusional.

I'm sick of you and the rest of the folks on here who downplay Kyrie sabotaging our season.

I dont like the way he left, but i don't blame him. Because he sees where this train is headed. Maybe you dont.

[BigO]

As a Bucks fan, I find this complaining about losing a little weird. Do you know what the Bucks record would be without their top three players? You win in the NBA primarily because of talent, not coaching. Perhaps, when talent is equal, coaching is decisive, but that's rarely the case.

If, and it's a big if, all the Nets players are on the court, the talent is tops in the league. They now have multiple top shooters, a defensive big, and 2 or possibly three superstars. They are much deeper than last year. Nash may not be a great coach, but the Nets problems are based on who is available on the court. Nash is a convenient whipping boy.

Didn't your fanbase want Coach Bud run out of town before last year?

I was one of strongest critics of Bud for very specific schematic reasons. But there are two seemingly contradictory facts:

1) They won with Bud as coach.
2) If KD's foot was one inch shorter, Bud wouldn't be coach this year.

Most times, not all, winning doesn't come down to coaching. It comes down to talent. Always has and always will.

[Hello Brooklyn]

And yall are mad at Harden for leaving? This man right here is the main culprit of this season being derailed before it even began.

He doesn't give a damn. If you saw his manic twitter behavior a day or so ago, he made it quite clear that none of this means anything to him.

This is why yall look crazy for being so mad at Harden. I dont blame Harden for bailing. He knew that this situation was completely f*cked because of Kyrie.

Are you kidding me?

I'm so sick of you justifying Harden's disgusting behavior. He had KEVIN DURANT coming back in a few weeks.

And he decides to quit? Just cause hes mad about Kyrie? Who was playing in almost all the games anyway cause of our road trip?

What kind of player just openly quits on a team when they have another Superstar? On top of being out of shape and sucking all year?

Kyrie being an idiot is not justification for his behavior. Be a leader and work through it.

Who can work with this?

Watch on YouTube

Seriously, who is going to waste their prime years trying to win with this absolute lunatic? Kyrie is absolutely delusional.

I'm sick of you and the rest of the folks on here who downplay Kyrie sabotaging our season.

I dont like the way he left, but i don't blame him. Because he sees where this train is headed. Maybe you dont.

Its based on a mandate that we know will end.

Meanwhile you have Kevin Durant on our team.

Kyrie did **** us over.

SO DID Harden.

They both have ruined the season. But only one of them quit on us!

I'll never defend Harden dogging it and quitting on us mid way through the season.

[Jay555]

As a Bucks fan, I find this complaining about losing a little weird. Do you know what the Bucks record would be without their top three players? You win in the NBA primarily because of talent, not coaching. Perhaps, when talent is equal, coaching is decisive, but that's rarely the case.

If, and it's a big if, all the Nets players are on the court, the talent is tops in the league. They now have multiple top shooters, a defensive big, and 2 or possibly three superstars. They are much deeper than last year. Nash may not be a great coach, but the Nets problems are based on who is available on the court. Nash is a convenient whipping boy.

Didn't your fanbase want Coach Bud run out of town before last year?

I was one of strongest critics of Bud for very specific schematic reasons. But there are two seemingly contradictory facts:

1) They won with Bud as coach.
2) If KD's foot was one inch shorter, Bud wouldn't be coach this year.

Most times, not all, winning doesn't come down to coaching. It comes down to talent. Always has and always will.

And luck..

[BigO]

As a Bucks fan, I find this complaining about losing a little weird. Do you know what the Bucks record would be without their top three players? You win in the NBA primarily because of talent, not coaching. Perhaps, when talent is equal, coaching is decisive, but that's rarely the case.

If, and it's a big if, all the Nets players are on the court, the talent is tops in the league. They now have multiple top shooters, a defensive big, and 2 or possibly three superstars. They are much deeper than last year. Nash may not be a great coach, but the Nets problems are based on who is available on the court. Nash is a convenient whipping boy.

What talent does the Clippers have? The Mavs? The Nuggets? The Nets have more talent than them but yet they are playing much worse basketball.

Nash is definitely a problem. The previous coaches (Atkinson and Vaughn) performed far better than Nash, with 0 all stars.

The second problem is that the Nets were (and still are) too top heavy. The gap between the big 3 and everyone else was too wide. If any of the big 3 started getting injured, playing uninspired basketball, or flat out being a lunatic, the team was done. The Bucks never had to worry about that because they are not as top heavy and their top 3 players were healthy when it mattered.

Bobby Portis would be a 3rd option on the Nets right now and a 2nd option when Kyrie or KD isn't playing. Think about that

Not sure the facts back you up.

1) Up until KD's and Harden's injuries, the Nets had a better record than the Bucks and were in or near first place. That's without Kyrie.

2) The Nuggets haven't played that well all season and they have arguably the best player in the league. Until every good player on the Nets got injured, they had a much better record than Denver, Dallas and Clippers.

3) Before the trade, if Kyrie, KD and Harden weren't on the court, the Nets had the worst talent in the league. Blaming Nash is too simplistic. It would be nice if every team could have a Spoelstra or Nurse as coach, but most of the rest are neither pluses or minuses. Nash may indeed be one of the worst (I haven't paid that much attention to his schemes, who he plays, etc), but from the outside, it appears he wins at a high rate when his best players are on the court and loses when they aren't. All the rest is secondary.
4) Nash almost beat the Bucks without 1.5 of the Nets superstars. How bad could he be?

[Jay555]

Are you kidding me?

I'm so sick of you justifying Harden's disgusting behavior. He had KEVIN DURANT coming back in a few weeks.

And he decides to quit? Just cause hes mad about Kyrie? Who was playing in almost all the games anyway cause of our road trip?

What kind of player just openly quits on a team when they have another Superstar? On top of being out of shape and sucking all year?

Kyrie being an idiot is not justification for his behavior. Be a leader and work through it.

Who can work with this?

Watch on YouTube

Seriously, who is going to waste their prime years trying to win with this absolute lunatic? Kyrie is absolutely delusional.

I'm sick of you and the rest of the folks on here who downplay Kyrie sabotaging our season.

I dont like the way he left, but i don't blame him. Because he sees where this train is headed. Maybe you dont.

Its based on a mandate that we know will end.

Meanwhile you have Kevin Durant on our team.

Kyrie did **** us over.

SO DID Harden.

They both have ruined the season. But only one of them quit on us!

I'll never defend Harden dogging it and quitting on us mid way through the season.

It’s simple.

Kyrie is a clown. Harden bailed.

KD says “ I love my brothers regardless.”

KD is the guy who gets **** the most lol, first by Nash and then by his brothers.

You donot play professional sports or do business with your friends.

[Jay555]

As a Bucks fan, I find this complaining about losing a little weird. Do you know what the Bucks record would be without their top three players? You win in the NBA primarily because of talent, not coaching. Perhaps, when talent is equal, coaching is decisive, but that's rarely the case.

If, and it's a big if, all the Nets players are on the court, the talent is tops in the league. They now have multiple top shooters, a defensive big, and 2 or possibly three superstars. They are much deeper than last year. Nash may not be a great coach, but the Nets problems are based on who is available on the court. Nash is a convenient whipping boy.

What talent does the Clippers have? The Mavs? The Nuggets? The Nets have more talent than them but yet they are playing much worse basketball.

Nash is definitely a problem. The previous coaches (Atkinson and Vaughn) performed far better than Nash, with 0 all stars.

The second problem is that the Nets were (and still are) too top heavy. The gap between the big 3 and everyone else was too wide. If any of the big 3 started getting injured, playing uninspired basketball, or flat out being a lunatic, the team was done. The Bucks never had to worry about that because they are not as top heavy and their top 3 players were healthy when it mattered.

Bobby Portis would be a 3rd option on the Nets right now and a 2nd option when Kyrie or KD isn't playing. Think about that

Not sure the facts back you up.

1) Up until KD's and Harden's injuries, the Nets had a better record than the Bucks and were in or near first place. That's without Kyrie.

2) The Nuggets haven't played that well all season and they have arguably the best player in the league. Until every good player on the Nets got injured, they had a much better record than Denver, Dallas and Clippers.

3) Before the trade, if Kyrie, KD and Harden weren't on the court, the Nets had the worst talent in the league. Blaming Nash is too simplistic. It would be nice if every team could have a Spoelstra or Nurse as coach, but most of the rest are neither pluses or minuses. Nash may indeed be one of the worst (I haven't paid that much attention to his schemes, who he plays, etc), but from the outside, it appears he wins at a high rate when his best players are on the court and loses when they aren't. All the rest is secondary.
4) Nash almost beat the Bucks without 1.5 of the Nets superstars. How bad could he be?

Re No.4, no that’s all because of Mike D’antoni not Nash.

[MrDollarBills]

Are you kidding me?

I'm so sick of you justifying Harden's disgusting behavior. He had KEVIN DURANT coming back in a few weeks.

And he decides to quit? Just cause hes mad about Kyrie? Who was playing in almost all the games anyway cause of our road trip?

What kind of player just openly quits on a team when they have another Superstar? On top of being out of shape and sucking all year?

Kyrie being an idiot is not justification for his behavior. Be a leader and work through it.

Who can work with this?

Watch on YouTube

Seriously, who is going to waste their prime years trying to win with this absolute lunatic? Kyrie is absolutely delusional.

I'm sick of you and the rest of the folks on here who downplay Kyrie sabotaging our season.

I dont like the way he left, but i don't blame him. Because he sees where this train is headed. Maybe you dont.

Its based on a mandate that we know will end.

Meanwhile you have Kevin Durant on our team.

Kyrie did **** us over.

SO DID Harden.

They both have ruined the season. But only one of them quit on us!

I'll never defend Harden dogging it and quitting on us mid way through the season.

You're going to sit here and pretend that Kyrie not getting vaccinated isnt tantamount to him leaving the team hanging out to dry?

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^how is this not quitting on the team? You really want to sit here and pretend that Kyrie gives a f*ck what happens??

You can stay mad at James Harden. Me? I dont blame him one bit for requesting a trade out of here. You expect Harden to carry this team while Kyrie is sitting at home burning sage? You are a hypocrite

[Hello Brooklyn]

Who can work with this?

Watch on YouTube

Seriously, who is going to waste their prime years trying to win with this absolute lunatic? Kyrie is absolutely delusional.

I'm sick of you and the rest of the folks on here who downplay Kyrie sabotaging our season.

I dont like the way he left, but i don't blame him. Because he sees where this train is headed. Maybe you dont.

Its based on a mandate that we know will end.

Meanwhile you have Kevin Durant on our team.

Kyrie did **** us over.

SO DID Harden.

They both have ruined the season. But only one of them quit on us!

I'll never defend Harden dogging it and quitting on us mid way through the season.

You're going to sit here and pretend that Kyrie not getting vaccinated isnt tantamount to him leaving the team hanging out to dry?

Read on Twitter

^how is this not quitting on the team? You really want to sit here and pretend that Kyrie gives a f*ck what happens??

You can stay mad at James Harden. Me? I dont blame him one bit for requesting a trade out of here. You expect Harden to carry this team while Kyrie is sitting at home burning sage? You are a hypocrite

Oh wow Harden had to "carry the team" for 3 more games until Durant comes back.

The horror!

God forbid we expect a superstar and former MVP to play a few games without another all star.

What a **** joke of excuses you are making for him.

[MrDollarBills]

Its based on a mandate that we know will end.

Meanwhile you have Kevin Durant on our team.

Kyrie did **** us over.

SO DID Harden.

They both have ruined the season. But only one of them quit on us!

I'll never defend Harden dogging it and quitting on us mid way through the season.

You're going to sit here and pretend that Kyrie not getting vaccinated isnt tantamount to him leaving the team hanging out to dry?

Read on Twitter

^how is this not quitting on the team? You really want to sit here and pretend that Kyrie gives a f*ck what happens??

You can stay mad at James Harden. Me? I dont blame him one bit for requesting a trade out of here. You expect Harden to carry this team while Kyrie is sitting at home burning sage? You are a hypocrite

Oh wow Harden had to "carry the team" for 3 more games until Durant comes back.

The horror!

God forbid we expect a superstar and former MVP to play a few games without another all star.

What a **** joke of excuses you are making for him.

I'm not making excuses for him. I am saying, i agree with his rationale for leaving. Between Kyrie and Nash, this is not a winning situation, and it seems like you're not seeing it for what it is.

I wish Harden the best of success with his new team.

You should be more adamant about Kyrie being a decent teammate and getting vaccinated. Thats what led to all of this. You wanted Harden to carry a heavy load, be run into the ground by Nash while Kyrie sits at home? You're out of your mind man

[Jay555]

Its based on a mandate that we know will end.

Meanwhile you have Kevin Durant on our team.

Kyrie did **** us over.

SO DID Harden.

They both have ruined the season. But only one of them quit on us!

I'll never defend Harden dogging it and quitting on us mid way through the season.

You're going to sit here and pretend that Kyrie not getting vaccinated isnt tantamount to him leaving the team hanging out to dry?

Read on Twitter

^how is this not quitting on the team? You really want to sit here and pretend that Kyrie gives a f*ck what happens??

You can stay mad at James Harden. Me? I dont blame him one bit for requesting a trade out of here. You expect Harden to carry this team while Kyrie is sitting at home burning sage? You are a hypocrite

Oh wow Harden had to "carry the team" for 3 more games until Durant comes back.

The horror!

God forbid we expect a superstar and former MVP to play a few games without another all star.

What a **** joke of excuses you are making for him.

3 more games of 40 mins per game before ASB plus 38-40 mins per game after ASB when Kyrie wont be playing in 2/3 of those games vs a team that has a clear load management plan for him and has no lunatic like Kyrie. It’s easy to choose.

As said multiple times, my only concern now is KD getting 38-40 mins per game when he’s back which is most likely. And Kyrie being the youngest/most healthy one gets to sit at home and post his narcissistic crap on twitter while his bro fights on court. **** Kyrie and Nash.

[Hello Brooklyn]

You're going to sit here and pretend that Kyrie not getting vaccinated isnt tantamount to him leaving the team hanging out to dry?

Read on Twitter

^how is this not quitting on the team? You really want to sit here and pretend that Kyrie gives a f*ck what happens??

You can stay mad at James Harden. Me? I dont blame him one bit for requesting a trade out of here. You expect Harden to carry this team while Kyrie is sitting at home burning sage? You are a hypocrite

Oh wow Harden had to "carry the team" for 3 more games until Durant comes back.

The horror!

God forbid we expect a superstar and former MVP to play a few games without another all star.

What a **** joke of excuses you are making for him.

I'm not making excuses for him. I am saying, i agree with his rationale for leaving. Between Kyrie and Nash, this is not a winning situation, and it seems like you're not seeing it for what it is.

I wish Harden the best of success with his new team.

You should be more adamant about Kyrie being a decent teammate and getting vaccinated. Thats what led to all of this. You wanted Harden to carry a heavy load, be run into the ground by Nash while Kyrie sits at home? You're out of your mind man

You agree with the rationale of quitting 1 year after demanding a trade here, forcing us to give up all our assets and betraying KD!

How stupid is that.

If Harden waited till the off season and left like a man I would respect him more. Not the bull he pulled.

Its not a winning situation because he couldnt help us win! He was trash. He could have turned it around.

[NetsWorld]

Oh wow Harden had to "carry the team" for 3 more games until Durant comes back.

The horror!

God forbid we expect a superstar and former MVP to play a few games without another all star.

What a **** joke of excuses you are making for him.

I'm not making excuses for him. I am saying, i agree with his rationale for leaving. Between Kyrie and Nash, this is not a winning situation, and it seems like you're not seeing it for what it is.

I wish Harden the best of success with his new team.

You should be more adamant about Kyrie being a decent teammate and getting vaccinated. Thats what led to all of this. You wanted Harden to carry a heavy load, be run into the ground by Nash while Kyrie sits at home? You're out of your mind man

You agree with the rationale of quitting 1 year after demanding a trade here, forcing us to give up all our assets and betraying KD!

How stupid is that.

If Harden waited till the off season and left like a man I would respect him more. Not the bull he pulled.

Its not a winning situation because he couldnt help us win! He was trash. He could have turned it around.

Regardless of the blame Harden gets, and he deserves it for quitting on us, Kyrie is definitely responsible for this mess and the team should have traded both him and Harden over the course of the Summer before the mandate nonsense. Yes the mandate is putrid and pathetic but after watching a team I had Championship aspirations for just buckle and have its ankle snapped, Kyrie is the main problem and he should have been traded in July. Nets knew this guy was a head case. He pulled so much other **** that Marks should have just screwed him over and traded him and Harden. If KD doesn’t like it, he could leave as well. We have a team we want to support and watch. This season has been pathetic and the most disappointing.

As far as I am concerned, an exemption should be given if it doesn’t jeopardize the team but in this case, the team was jeopardized and he should have been traded.

[ajones9219]

How about we just agree kyrie and harden are both clowns?

[MrDollarBills]

Oh wow Harden had to "carry the team" for 3 more games until Durant comes back.

The horror!

God forbid we expect a superstar and former MVP to play a few games without another all star.

What a **** joke of excuses you are making for him.

I'm not making excuses for him. I am saying, i agree with his rationale for leaving. Between Kyrie and Nash, this is not a winning situation, and it seems like you're not seeing it for what it is.

I wish Harden the best of success with his new team.

You should be more adamant about Kyrie being a decent teammate and getting vaccinated. Thats what led to all of this. You wanted Harden to carry a heavy load, be run into the ground by Nash while Kyrie sits at home? You're out of your mind man

You agree with the rationale of quitting 1 year after demanding a trade here, forcing us to give up all our assets and betraying KD!

How stupid is that.

If Harden waited till the off season and left like a man I would respect him more. Not the bull he pulled.

Its not a winning situation because he couldnt help us win! He was trash. He could have turned it around.

Kyrie is the one who betrayed KD by choosing to be a part time player. Harden chose not to play this stupid game that KD is playing with Kyrie and I agree with him.

Blame Kyrie.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm not making excuses for him. I am saying, i agree with his rationale for leaving. Between Kyrie and Nash, this is not a winning situation, and it seems like you're not seeing it for what it is.

I wish Harden the best of success with his new team.

You should be more adamant about Kyrie being a decent teammate and getting vaccinated. Thats what led to all of this. You wanted Harden to carry a heavy load, be run into the ground by Nash while Kyrie sits at home? You're out of your mind man

You agree with the rationale of quitting 1 year after demanding a trade here, forcing us to give up all our assets and betraying KD!

How stupid is that.

If Harden waited till the off season and left like a man I would respect him more. Not the bull he pulled.

Its not a winning situation because he couldnt help us win! He was trash. He could have turned it around.

Kyrie is the one who betrayed KD by choosing to be a part time player. Harden chose not to play this stupid game that KD is playing with Kyrie and I agree with him.

Blame Kyrie.

If you have Durant then Kyrie is irrelevent.

Imagine quitting because you have 2 superstars instead of 3.

Stop pretending like its ok to just openly quit in the middle of the season because of Kyrie being an idiot when have **** Kevin Durant.

This mentality is why Harden has never won ****.

[MrDollarBills]

You agree with the rationale of quitting 1 year after demanding a trade here, forcing us to give up all our assets and betraying KD!

How stupid is that.

If Harden waited till the off season and left like a man I would respect him more. Not the bull he pulled.

Its not a winning situation because he couldnt help us win! He was trash. He could have turned it around.

Kyrie is the one who betrayed KD by choosing to be a part time player. Harden chose not to play this stupid game that KD is playing with Kyrie and I agree with him.

Blame Kyrie.

If you have Durant then Kyrie is irrelevent.

Imagine quitting because you have 2 superstars instead of 3.

Stop pretending like its ok to just openly quit in the middle of the season because of Kyrie being an idiot when have **** Kevin Durant.

This mentality is why Harden has never won ****.

Harden owes you nothing, just how you think that Kyrie doesn't owe you to get vaccinated.

Durant is out with a knee ligament injury. There is no definite date for his return. We don't know what shape he will be in when he comes back.

Our season is over.

But go on.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Kyrie is the one who betrayed KD by choosing to be a part time player. Harden chose not to play this stupid game that KD is playing with Kyrie and I agree with him.

Blame Kyrie.

If you have Durant then Kyrie is irrelevent.

Imagine quitting because you have 2 superstars instead of 3.

Stop pretending like its ok to just openly quit in the middle of the season because of Kyrie being an idiot when have **** Kevin Durant.

This mentality is why Harden has never won ****.

Harden owes you nothing, just how you think that Kyrie doesn't owe you to get vaccinated.

Durant is out with a knee ligament injury. There is no definite date for his return. We don't know what shape he will be in when he comes back.

Our season is over.

But go on.

Stop using Kyrie as an excuse. Just cause hes being an idiot doesn't mean Harden can be too.

Harden owes us nothing? We gave up a ton of assets for him! He demanded to be here. And then he quit on us.

KD is a few weeks away and has said so on multiple occasions.

If Harden is an MVP he would take the challenge. Instead of running away like a **** coward.

What did KD do when Harden kept hurting his hamstring cause hes a fat piece of ****. He played without him with no complaints.

If you really cared about the Nets you wouldn't excuse someone **** on this franchise like this.

Hes worse than Deron Williams.

[Marvin Martian]

How about we just agree kyrie and harden are both clowns?

The issue is that some Nets fans and possibly those within the organization, believed that the problems with the team started and ended with Harden, which is complete BS.

The reality is that Kyrie is the problem, and it won't end until Kyrie is gone. Throwing Harden under the bus then trading him, lifting vaccine mandates are just band aids to cover up the real issue which is that Kyrie is a lunatic and the Nets cannot stand up to him because of injuries and his ties to KD.

[GTR11]

If you have Durant then Kyrie is irrelevent.

Imagine quitting because you have 2 superstars instead of 3.

Stop pretending like its ok to just openly quit in the middle of the season because of Kyrie being an idiot when have **** Kevin Durant.

This mentality is why Harden has never won ****.

Harden owes you nothing, just how you think that Kyrie doesn't owe you to get vaccinated.

Durant is out with a knee ligament injury. There is no definite date for his return. We don't know what shape he will be in when he comes back.

Our season is over.

But go on.

Stop using Kyrie as an excuse. Just cause hes being an idiot doesn't mean Harden can be too.

Harden owes us nothing? We gave up a ton of assets for him! He demanded to be here. And then he quit on us.

KD is a few weeks away and has said so on multiple occasions.

If Harden is an MVP he would take the challenge. Instead of running away like a **** coward.

What did KD do when Harden kept hurting his hamstring cause hes a fat piece of ****. He played without him with no complaints.

If you really cared about the Nets you wouldn't excuse someone **** on this franchise like this.

Hes worse than Deron Williams.

HB, what MDB telling you is that Harden quit due to no serious commitment from Kyrie. We not having this issue if Kyrie 100% here and giving full effort.

All Harden this and that is valid only to a degree. During off-season he admitted he ain't same young Harden from years past. Add the fact he has his own shortcomings and it boiled to this s*** show. Was he right? Probably not, but he ain't main issue that triggered this chaos. Marks/Kyrie/KD and Tsai all had some to do with it. We don't have alfa dog here who set standards and that didn't sit well with him. Morey is that in Phithy, Pat in Miami, Pop in San An etc. With all that said, Harden better win chip in a next few years, it'll get ugly for him if he won't.

As I said before, I think in a long run we won this trade. We got 25 yo all star who's been put to player friendly environment and Aussi connected. Our player development stuff top of the line. All we need is a coach who can make this all work.