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Re: Beards @MIYUMMY 3/1, 7:30PM!!! 

Post#141 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:47 am

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MHeat0279 wrote:We dont have an identity, no gameplan, is just Spo throwing crap around and see if it works, its always being like that, its way more noticeable since we dont have a big 3 to save his sorry a ss bad coaching. Not winning s h it until this clown is out of here. And no, i have no clue who we can replace him with, i am just sure he is not a good coach.


Wouldn't we have won a title in the bubble if not for Dragic and Bam injuries in game 1?


I dont know, you tell me. Are you suggesting we would have been champions without those injuries? Are you 100% sure?
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Post#142 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:48 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Every time we get a good win we follow it with one of the worst losses of the season so I’m not surprised at all. We’re getting punked and bullied outside of Bam.

The second Bam and Jimmy went out **** hit the fan and we’ve been playing catch-up ever since


Absolutely. It also doesnt help that both Bam and Jimmy are easily neutralized by bringing the double.


They have 24 on 13 shots, everyone else is just trash
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Post#143 » by insfo » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:48 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:We don’t need Gogi it’s ok. We have enough. Absolutely necessary we keep playing small with no PG’s. Fml

Need Gogi over Vincent. These g-leaguers are break in case of emergency, not players to be relied upon for consistent scoring over the course of a season.

Dragic is available to be picked up? If so, I think he would have been here already if there was a mutual interest.

We should have wasted zero time picking him up but the extreme stubbornness of this front office and coaching staff has been to blame since the start of last offseason


That's the odd thing. We know Spo loved Goran, and by all accounts so did Riley. So has to be some tax thing stopping this, or Goran is set on Dallas. Just baffling.
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Re: Beards @MIYUMMY 3/1, 7:30PM!!! 

Post#144 » by SoFlaKingReal » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:48 am

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MHeat0279 wrote:We dont have an identity, no gameplan, is just Spo throwing crap around and see if it works, its always being like that, its way more noticeable since we dont have a big 3 to save his sorry a ss bad coaching. Not winning s h it until this clown is out of here. And no, i have no clue who we can replace him with, i am just sure he is not a good coach.


Wouldn't we have won a title in the bubble if not for Dragic and Bam injuries in game 1?


I dont know, you tell me. Are you suggesting we would have been champions without those injuries? Are you 100% sure?


I think Spo, just like any other coach in the NBA, is only as good as the players at his disposal. No coach is winning a title without star players, and this Heat roster is devoid of them.

Don't get me wrong, Spo leaves much to be desired. But what coach would do anything with this lackluster roster?
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Post#145 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:49 am

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Butler isnt that guy anymore....move that contract and start from scratch.


TOBIAS freaking HARRIS is out playing him....
This is one of those I dont know if I should laugh or cry moments.
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Post#146 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:49 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:We don’t need Gogi it’s ok. We have enough. Absolutely necessary we keep playing small with no PG’s. Fml

Need Gogi over Vincent. These g-leaguers are break in case of emergency, not players to be relied upon for consistent scoring over the course of a season.

Dragic is available to be picked up? If so, I think he would have been here already if there was a mutual interest.

We should have wasted zero time picking him up but the extreme stubbornness of this front office and coaching staff has been to blame since the start of last offseason

How's Dragic helping the defense? Miami still scored 53 points, a decent defensive effort would have made this game a lot closer and also... pulling the ball out of the hoop instead of getting a defensive rebound really hurts this teams ability to score. The offense is tied to the defense.
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Post#147 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:50 am

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Wouldn't we have won a title in the bubble if not for Dragic and Bam injuries in game 1?


I dont know, you tell me. Are you suggesting we would have been champions without those injuries? Are you 100% sure?


I think Spo, just like any other coach in the NBA, is only as good as the players at his disposal. No coach is winning a title without star players, and this Heat roster is devoid of them.


I agree, but ( and this is just my opinion ) we should be doing better than we are, even with the sorry performance we usually get from our best paid players.
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Post#148 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:50 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Butler isnt that guy anymore....move that contract and start from scratch.


TOBIAS freaking HARRIS is out playing him....
This is one of those I dont know if I should laugh or cry moments.

Cry about the starting backcourt, they went 4 for 15 in the first half.

BTW... Butler has as many points as Harris does in less time, it's the piss poor teammates' defense which is the problem.
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Post#149 » by insfo » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:52 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:
KingDavid wrote:Need Gogi over Vincent. These g-leaguers are break in case of emergency, not players to be relied upon for consistent scoring over the course of a season.

Dragic is available to be picked up? If so, I think he would have been here already if there was a mutual interest.

We should have wasted zero time picking him up but the extreme stubbornness of this front office and coaching staff has been to blame since the start of last offseason

How's Dragic helping the defense? Miami still scored 53 points, a decent defensive effort would have made this game a lot closer and also... pulling the ball out of the hoop instead of getting a defensive rebound really hurts this teams ability to score. The offense is tied to the defense.


We are not solving every problem with a waiver wire type pick up. It's obvious to anyone watching that our PG play when Lowry isn't around has been horrendous to say the least. I really don't want to see Vincent aimlessly dribbling up the floor, or Dipo throwing it away, or Herro going left to right and launch contested 3s. That's the problem that Goran might solve, in letting these guys play their actual roles, and not get put in positions where they cannot succeed. Case in point, that "drive and dish" from Struss that landed in the 13th row :banghead:
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Post#150 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:53 am

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KingDavid wrote:Need Gogi over Vincent. These g-leaguers are break in case of emergency, not players to be relied upon for consistent scoring over the course of a season.

Dragic is available to be picked up? If so, I think he would have been here already if there was a mutual interest.

We should have wasted zero time picking him up but the extreme stubbornness of this front office and coaching staff has been to blame since the start of last offseason

How's Dragic helping the defense? Miami still scored 53 points, a decent defensive effort would have made this game a lot closer and also... pulling the ball out of the hoop instead of getting a defensive rebound really hurts this teams ability to score. The offense is tied to the defense.

Bad offensive possessions are also a factor in leading to easy scores on the other end. This team is devoid of a floor general. Or is the answer Haywood Highsmith at Center?
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Re: Beards @MIYUMMY 3/1, 7:30PM!!! 

Post#151 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:54 am

AirP. wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Butler isnt that guy anymore....move that contract and start from scratch.


TOBIAS freaking HARRIS is out playing him....
This is one of those I dont know if I should laugh or cry moments.

Cry about the starting backcourt, they went 4 for 15 in the first half.

BTW... Butler has as many points as Harris does in less time, it's the piss poor teammates' defense which is the problem.


Butler is not a superstar, he can play like one even in a whole series but he can not sustain that kind of play consistently, thats why he is not one. He is a very very good 2nd option if you want to win the trophy. It is what it is and its what we have.
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Post#152 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:54 am

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AirP. wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We should have wasted zero time picking him up but the extreme stubbornness of this front office and coaching staff has been to blame since the start of last offseason

How's Dragic helping the defense? Miami still scored 53 points, a decent defensive effort would have made this game a lot closer and also... pulling the ball out of the hoop instead of getting a defensive rebound really hurts this teams ability to score. The offense is tied to the defense.

Bad offensive possessions are also a factor in leading to easy scores on the other end. This team is devoid of a floor general. Or is the answer Haywood Highsmith at Center?

I think the easiest answer tonight is not just to let your man drive by without much effort given.
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Post#153 » by Wiltside » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:56 am

4/15 from 3 at the half. Unbelievable how bad our shooting has been this year.
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Post#154 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:56 am

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AirP. wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
TOBIAS freaking HARRIS is out playing him....
This is one of those I dont know if I should laugh or cry moments.

Cry about the starting backcourt, they went 4 for 15 in the first half.

BTW... Butler has as many points as Harris does in less time, it's the piss poor teammates' defense which is the problem.


Butler is not a superstar, he can play like one even in a whole series but he can not sustain that kind of play consistently, thats why he is not one. He is a very very good 2nd option if you want to win the trophy. It is what it is and its what we have.


Where did that come from? You were the one saying Harris was outplaying Butler which is what I replied to so you bring something else to the reply?
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Post#155 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:56 am

By the way, this game is still winnable if they tight up the defense.
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Post#156 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:58 am

Wiltside wrote:4/15 from 3 at the half. Unbelievable how bad our shooting has been this year.

This team from day one was so poorly built
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Post#157 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:58 am

AirP. wrote:
MHeat0279 wrote:
AirP. wrote:Cry about the starting backcourt, they went 4 for 15 in the first half.

BTW... Butler has as many points as Harris does in less time, it's the piss poor teammates' defense which is the problem.


Butler is not a superstar, he can play like one even in a whole series but he can not sustain that kind of play consistently, thats why he is not one. He is a very very good 2nd option if you want to win the trophy. It is what it is and its what we have.


Where did that come from? You were the one saying Harris was outplaying Butler which is what I replied to so you bring something else to the reply?


I wasnt saying anything about about Harris outplaying Jimmy. I just replied to your previous post with another poster.
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Post#158 » by AirP. » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:59 am

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AirP. wrote:
MHeat0279 wrote:
Butler is not a superstar, he can play like one even in a whole series but he can not sustain that kind of play consistently, thats why he is not one. He is a very very good 2nd option if you want to win the trophy. It is what it is and its what we have.


Where did that come from? You were the one saying Harris was outplaying Butler which is what I replied to so you bring something else to the reply?


I wasnt saying anything about about Harris outplaying Jimmy. I just replied to your previous post with another poster.

Wrong person, my bad.
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Post#159 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:59 am

AirP. wrote:
MHeat0279 wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Where did that come from? You were the one saying Harris was outplaying Butler which is what I replied to so you bring something else to the reply?


I wasnt saying anything about about Harris outplaying Jimmy. I just replied to your previous post with another poster.

Wrong person, my bad.


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Post#160 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Mar 2, 2023 2:00 am

I know the jury still out but getting zero production from our 1st round pick has also been a huge fail. Don’t draft projects when half the roster comes from the G league. We needed a ready now player

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