Dame requests a trade.

[One_and_Done]

What Dame is doing is no better than the stuff Harden or Simmons have done.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Honestly, we have no idea what went down between Lillard and the Blazers. Chances are they all knew what was going to happen after their meeting on Monday. However, everyone wants to save face, get the best opportunity/return, etc. There are politics involved, which may explain why things played out the way they did. I'm sure there is much more going on than any of us know about.

I'm sad to see Lillard go, but it is the right direction for the team given their current roster. I prefer a trade with Brooklyn, but we shall see what transpires.

[The Sebastian Express]

Expiring OG or Pascal has more value than Herro or Ben Simmons. Dick has more value than any prospect the heat have. And you can get young guys and picks for Pascal or OG

You need to find a team that wants Dame, has 50 million in salary to send out and can stay championship level after giving up young assets for Dame. Has to work for both sides

Since you think teams will give up picks and young guys for Pascal or OG, you make that deal. Tell me who the third team is in a trade with Portland and Toronto for Dame.

Idk but I do know the heat have no prospects. And not many teams can send out 50 million in salary while staying championship level.

You can get 3 1st round picks from NY for OG.

But here's the deal.

You would have to add more from your side. And no Dick and Precious aren't enough. Otherwise a team like the Knicks is going to say "Why am I trading three first round picks for OG, who is expiring, and is the bulk of this deal for Dame and not getting Dame?"

[Wizenheimer]

go to the coast for a day and this happens the next. Should have went today I guess

Pat Riley is already playing games trying to get Cronin over a barrel. He hurriedly signed their pick Jaquez, so he'd be ineligible for a trade for 30 days. And the Heat have leaked that they are unwilling to trade Martin or Jovic

I hope Cronin tells Riley to pound sand...and tells Dame he'd operating on a Blazer timeline, not Dame's

by the way, there are more 'people' than Amick and Perkins saying Dame asked out Monday. Maybe it's the echo chamber, but it's out there nonetheless. I don't think Dame's agent was there for show

[The Sebastian Express]

go to the coast for a day and this happens the next. Should have went today I guess

Pat Riley is already playing games trying to get Cronin over a barrel. He hurriedly signed their pick Jaquez, so he'd be ineligible for a trade for 30 days. And the Heat have leaked that they are unwilling to trade Martin or Jovic

I hope Cronin tells Riley to pound sand...and tells Dame he'd operating on a Blazer timeline, not Dame's

by the way, there are more 'people' than Amick and Perkins saying Dame asked out Monday. Maybe it's the echo chamber, but it's out there nonetheless

And Haynes reported that the request was made this morning, when Dame sent Goodwin with the request to Cronin. Haynes is Dame's guy. Unless Haynes' story changes, I don't see it being Monday.

[NotMyKawhi]

Since you think teams will give up picks and young guys for Pascal or OG, you make that deal. Tell me who the third team is in a trade with Portland and Toronto for Dame.

Idk but I do know the heat have no prospects. And not many teams can send out 50 million in salary while staying championship level.

You can get 3 1st round picks from NY for OG.

But here's the deal.

You would have to add more from your side. And no Dick and Precious aren't enough. Otherwise a team like the Knicks is going to say "Why am I trading three first round picks for OG, who is expiring, and is the bulk of this deal for Dame and not getting Dame?"

Thats how the game works. You go to the Knicks, bring their offer back and we see if we can beat it. But Dame asked for the trade so its on you.

Id keep OG if I were you. Hell be in his prime for 7 years. Position of need. Will play D and space the floor so Scoot and sharpe can grow.

[The Sebastian Express]

Idk but I do know the heat have no prospects. And not many teams can send out 50 million in salary while staying championship level.

You can get 3 1st round picks from NY for OG.

But here's the deal.

You would have to add more from your side. And no Dick and Precious aren't enough. Otherwise a team like the Knicks is going to say "Why am I trading three first round picks for OG, who is expiring, and is the bulk of this deal for Dame and not getting Dame?"

Thats how the game works. You go to the Knicks, bring their offer back and we see if we can beat it. But Dame asked for the trade so its on you.

No, in this specific scenario, this is on you. You're saying the Raptors have better assets than anything the Heat or Nets will offer. But you cannot name one team (except the Knicks in a relatively unrealistic scenario) who could assist you. In a way that would not make their package better than what you are offering. Like Herro going to someone else to trade assets to Portland is in ADDITION to the Heat trading their own other assets as well.

[DusterBuster]

Simons is only 23 or 24 years old. Do the Blazers keep him or trade him?

Trade him hopefully.

Yeah, I’m hoping both Dame and Simons are traded this summer.

Simons just is a bad fit right now. I don’t want any more undersized backcourt and I don’t want Sharpe out of position at SF.

Blazers getting the 3rd pick was such a monkey paw. Amazing blessing, but caused sooooo many problems. Basically got the best PG prospect since Derrick Rose, but also basically was the nail in the coffin for Dame.

If they could ever convince Simons to be a 6th man, I think they are cooking with something. He should be able to play with either Sharpe or Scoot and would get starter minutes, but as that heater off the bench, he would be in line I think for a 6MotY award (if the team isn’t totally hot garbage). Just don’t have much faith that’s a path Simons would be ok with.

I’m also definitely hoping this Dame news means Billups wants out. Sure we won’t get THAT lucky, but man it would be nice. No one right now is happier about the Dame news than Cronin and Billups. Guaranteed job security for another 2-4 years.

Got I hate Jody Allen and the Vulcans. Sell the damn team to Uncle Phil.

[NotMyKawhi]

But here's the deal.

You would have to add more from your side. And no Dick and Precious aren't enough. Otherwise a team like the Knicks is going to say "Why am I trading three first round picks for OG, who is expiring, and is the bulk of this deal for Dame and not getting Dame?"

Thats how the game works. You go to the Knicks, bring their offer back and we see if we can beat it. But Dame asked for the trade so its on you.

No, in this specific scenario, this is on you. You're saying the Raptors have better assets than anything the Heat or Nets will offer. But you cannot name one team (except the Knicks in a relatively unrealistic scenario) who could assist you. In a way that would not make their package better than what you are offering. Like Herro going to someone else to trade assets to Portland is in ADDITION to the Heat trading their own other assets as well.

The heat dont have assets, they gave their best prospect to us, precious.

And OG is better than Herro. Herro doesn't have much value. Id give Boucher, thad young, Otto and a future protected 1st

[The Sebastian Express]

I'm actually okay with giving Chauncey a year and seeing how he works with his system.

I think you have to trade Simons because I don't think he'll want to come off the bench and I don't think you can risk these important development years for Shaedon and Scoot.

[The Sebastian Express]

Thats how the game works. You go to the Knicks, bring their offer back and we see if we can beat it. But Dame asked for the trade so its on you.

No, in this specific scenario, this is on you. You're saying the Raptors have better assets than anything the Heat or Nets will offer. But you cannot name one team (except the Knicks in a relatively unrealistic scenario) who could assist you. In a way that would not make their package better than what you are offering. Like Herro going to someone else to trade assets to Portland is in ADDITION to the Heat trading their own other assets as well.

The heat dont have assets, they gave their best prospect to us, precious.

And OG is better than Herro. Herro doesn't have much value. Id give Boucher, thad young, Otto and a future protected 1st

Okay I think you're just misunderstanding what's being said to you. That's okay. But it's obvious it won't lead anywhere. Cheers!

[Moonbeam]

I'm actually okay with giving Chauncey a year and seeing how he works with his system.

I think you have to trade Simons because I don't think he'll want to come off the bench and I don't think you can risk these important development years for Shaedon and Scoot.

I don't want Chauncey at all on the team, I'm afraid. Even with a young, bad team, you want a coach who can instill good habits, discipline, and teaching winning play to a team. I haven't seen any evidence that Billups is capable of that. He'd be a great tank commander as coach, but it may come at the cost of development of the young guns.

[DiegoChara]

What Dame is doing is no better than the stuff Harden or Simmons have done.

This is an embarrassing take.

[DiegoChara]

Thats how the game works. You go to the Knicks, bring their offer back and we see if we can beat it. But Dame asked for the trade so its on you.

No, in this specific scenario, this is on you. You're saying the Raptors have better assets than anything the Heat or Nets will offer. But you cannot name one team (except the Knicks in a relatively unrealistic scenario) who could assist you. In a way that would not make their package better than what you are offering. Like Herro going to someone else to trade assets to Portland is in ADDITION to the Heat trading their own other assets as well.

The heat dont have assets, they gave their best prospect to us, precious.

And OG is better than Herro. Herro doesn't have much value. Id give Boucher, thad young, Otto and a future protected 1st

[DusterBuster]

...

I meant Dame's emotions.

He's acting like somebody who's legitimately torn.

I mentioned this about one of his IG lives. It was just him with his kiddos. He had a look of someone with a very heavy thoughts on his mind. Anyone who’s dealt with a really weighty life decision (and has family) would know that look. At that point to me it was pretty clear he was seriously considering the move. Once Cronin kept saying this line of “we’re gonna do what it takes to win around Dame” but then literally doing the exact opposite at every possible turn, it became pretty clear this was a coin flip decision. I think Dame could have kept stringing this along to give the team more chances, but I’m glad he just ripped the bandage off here for everyone because it was clear Crolshey had no interest in actually making a all-in big move using the next decade of assets to pair Dame with another star.

[DusterBuster]

What Dame is doing is no better than the stuff Harden or Simmons have done.

This is an embarrassing take.

Buckle in… this **** gonna be bad take central until Dame is traded.

[One_and_Done]

What Dame is doing is no better than the stuff Harden or Simmons have done.

This is an embarrassing take.

When you sign a contract to play you give your word that you will play it out. The contract itself actually specifies you have to play too. Dame isn't offering to give the money back so he can be free; he's demanding all his money, but that his employers trade him to the team of his choice or else he'll fake an injury and refuse to play well. It's no different in principle to Harden or Kawhi or Simmons.

Teams can't dishonour contracts and refuse to pay you, so players shouldn't be able to either. Practically there may not be much the Blazers can do, but that doesn't make it any less wrong.

On a personal level I just don't think much of someone who reneges on their word in this way. Real men make good on their commitments.

[Moonbeam]

Probably also heat-of-the-moment stuff, but I think Cronin should be gone, like, NOW. The Dame trade would be the biggest transaction in a decade for most teams, and especially Portland given their complete failure to do anything meaningful trade wise in the past decade (yeah, I'm going to be a bit bitter about this for some time, it seems). I have zero faith that Cronin is going to be able to secure anything resembling commensurate value. I know a lot of that is on Dame and the timing (I get the criticism there), but the Pelican trade and especially the Clipper trade in 2021 do not leave me any hope that Cronin can get decent assets by trading starting-level players.

[NotMyKawhi]

:lol:

No, in this specific scenario, this is on you. You're saying the Raptors have better assets than anything the Heat or Nets will offer. But you cannot name one team (except the Knicks in a relatively unrealistic scenario) who could assist you. In a way that would not make their package better than what you are offering. Like Herro going to someone else to trade assets to Portland is in ADDITION to the Heat trading their own other assets as well.

The heat dont have assets, they gave their best prospect to us, precious.

And OG is better than Herro. Herro doesn't have much value. Id give Boucher, thad young, Otto and a future protected 1st

What would you give up for Herro?

[DiegoChara]

:lol:

The heat dont have assets, they gave their best prospect to us, precious.

And OG is better than Herro. Herro doesn't have much value. Id give Boucher, thad young, Otto and a future protected 1st

What would you give up for Herro?

For the Blazers? He makes no sense for the blazers with scoot, sharpe, and Simons.