Austin Reaves Has Been Great In FIBA ... Could He Be An All-Star?

[JRoy]

BJ Armstrong made it without remotely deserving it, no reason he couldn’t do the same.

[Pelly24]

Austin Reaves stats vs Lithuania

7 points, 1/4 shooting from the field,0-2 from the 3pt line along with 5 fouls, no assist, and +/- score of -8.

But yet still no threads about how Reaves is a fruad, saying he's a one hit wonder, or calling him a below average role player. It's very weird if I say myself. This is what happens when defense actually pay attention to Austin Reaves. He just becomes ineffective out there. If anyone is expecting Reaves to anything more than a Jeremy Lin or Aaron Brooks cailber player(basically a average to below average role player) going forward, they will be in for a major disappointment. I'm sorry, but he's not a starting cailber player on most teams and never will be.

This is silly. He had one bad game, he's been great otherwise dating back to last season. He's a good player, stop.

[3toheadmelo]

Wooh, not a good day for me, from the perspective I trashed Kariniauskas for weeks while praising Reaves for weeks. Reaves was straight up trashed.

Can you and others finally admit that Reaves ceiling is a average role player(7-8th man off the bench on a good team) and yall were being way too high on him based on a very small simple size? We have seen in the past players having one good series or half of season and completely flame out from there. Why wouldn't this apply to Austin Reaves? It's clear that most of his game is based on foul baiting and getting wide open looks becasue others team are focused on trying to stop Lebron James and Anthony Davis. With Reaves being on other teams scouting report, we will a lot games like for him like we saw vs Lithuania.

there's no way you're expecting people to "admit" this after one bad fiba game. this is insanity

[Meeksology]

The hype that Reaves is getting is out of control. Is the guy is even the best guard on his own team? I mean D'Aenglo Russell was unplayable in the Western Conference finals vs the Nuggets, but he was a 17-5 guy in the regular season and has been more or less that for most of his career. I don't see Reaves ever becoming a 17-5 guy. Both are bad on defense, so Reaves doesn't even close gap between him and Russell based on his defense. I think both are average playmakers. Also putting inflated numbers in FIBA doesn't mean all star potential. Otherwise, Mo Wagner, Dennis Schroader, Bobby Portis, along with others would've developed into a all cailber star already. The dude is role player and a average to below average one at that. I easily take guys like Derrick White and Bruce Brown over him becasue atleast they can do multiple things on a very good level.

He averaged 17-5 in the playoffs last year, but you don't think he could ever average that in the regular season?

If Reaves wasn't white and was playing say on the Rockets or Pistons, people would've simply accepted him for who he is, which is average to below average role player, instead of hyping him to be someone who's he's never going to be.

Blocked. It is also hilarious how quickly you are going to be proven wrong. He's a future efficient 20-5-5 guy.

Not saying he's right or wrong, but if Reaves played for any other team besides the Lakers, even you yourself wouldnt be hyping him up as much as u currently are - so there is a part of that Laker hype machine mixed in there with the (well deserved) praise.
The race stuff I wont touch.

They could literally just watch him play like what happens with tons of other young players.

People are trying to make this **** complicated because he plays for the Lakers and happens to have light skin. It isn't that deep. He's good at basketball, and it is obvious when you watch him play.

If Reaves played for their team, they wouldn’t shut up about how good he is.

Exactly. And you guys would be telling us to stfu too and how overhyped he is.

Ayt - I said I dont care about the race stuff yet you bring up his light skin like I was attacking it. I could care less about it so please dont play the race card with me.

[oversteerdawg]

Some posters: You can't call Reaves a good player because 43 games since the trade deadline is too small of a sample size.

Same posters: Reaves' ceiling is 7-8th man based on 1 bad FIBA game.

[facothomas22]

Posters say you can't call Reaves a good player because sample size is to small.

Same posters also say Reaves' ceiling is 7-8th man based on 1 bad game.

Yes I agree, you can't call someone a below average role player based on a small size, just you can't call someone a starting cailber player based on a small simple size. However there's much bigger simple size that suggest that Reaves ceiling is a 7-8th man off the bench as oppsosed to being a starting cailber player based on his rookie season and the 1st half of his 2nd season. We have seen how Reaves look every time a team defense actually takes him seriously, he becomes ineffective on both offense and defense. We saw it vs Lithuania yesterday and we saw it during portions of the Warriors series. Having Reaves as your 3 or 4th best player on a team very likely means that team is very bad and poorly constructed. What seperates a average to below average role player like Austin Reaves/Aaron Brooks from say starting cailber players who are not quite all star cailber players like Malcolm Brodgon/Mike Bibby(to be fair, Bibby was more of a fringe all star at certain points) for example is that the latter still can be effective even when the defense are focused on them and are on the scouting report, while the former can't.

[DusterBuster]

FIBA is not the NBA. Calm down ya’ll

[azcatz11]

FIBA is not the NBA. Calm down ya’ll

I understand that. I have seen enough to suggest his foul baiting is not going to work long term (especially when he's not playing with Lebron)

He's also almost in his late 20's and has probably reached his ceiling

[Big J]

Reeves is the kind of guy that pasty nerds on message boards love to root for. He's a cute story, but in reality his ceiling is incredibly limited.

[rate_]

Herro is 23, has put up 20-5-4 seasons already and gets trashed like he’s a negative player

This guy has a decent season in a smaller role at 26 and people are overrating him, debating future all star convo, gets invited to Team USA.

It doesn’t make sense to me at all.

[Big J]

Herro is 23, has put up 20-5-4 seasons already and gets trashed like he’s a negative player

This guy has a decent season in a smaller role at 26 and people are overrating him, debating future all star convo, gets invited to Team USA.

It doesn’t make sense to me at all.

It's because Herro is brash and wears designer clothes and dates supermodels, and Reaves is the hillbilly underdog undrafted guy that is easy to root for. More guys on this forum relate to Reaves than they do Herro.

[facothomas22]

Herro is 23, has put up 20-5-4 seasons already and gets trashed like he’s a negative player

This guy has a decent season in a smaller role at 26 and people are overrating him, debating future all star convo, gets invited to Team USA.

It doesn’t make sense to me at all.

It's very weird how this work. Even average role players like Coby White and D'Anthony Melton gets treated like irrelevent players who are seen as players who are easily replaceable and are seen ether getting paid according to their production or in the case White maybe even getting overpaid compared to their actul production. But yet Reaves get treated as if his porduction can't be easily replaced, can be a 3rd or the 4th option on on a good team, and his contract is seen as a good contract. Meanwhile, both Melton and White are actually as productive if not more productive players compared to Austin Reaves, while also being the same age if not younger than him as well, while also making less money. It's tells you just how strong how the Lebron/Lakers influence really is. Just not be totoally unplayable and people will treat you like a future all star or a 3rd or 4 option on a good team, even when stats/ athletic abilitites/archetype /talent level/skill level/age all suggets otherwise.

[watch1958]

If the op is asking whether Reaves could get voted onto an all star team by fans, then yes.

[azcatz11]

Herro is 23, has put up 20-5-4 seasons already and gets trashed like he’s a negative player

This guy has a decent season in a smaller role at 26 and people are overrating him, debating future all star convo, gets invited to Team USA.

It doesn’t make sense to me at all.

It’s because Reaves looks like a scrub and a guy you see at the YMCA so there’s a weird cult effect going on with him.

[3toheadmelo]

Herro's last playoffs
12.6 PPG 2.8 APG on 40/22/92 splits

Reaves last playoffs
16.9 PPG 4.6 APG on 46/44/89 splits


Herro never averaged more than 16 PPG in the post season and his highest FG% is 43%.

[wade44]

It’s literally as simple as he plays for Lebron’s Lakers, and the Steph Curry effect where people can relate to him body image wise so they naturally put him on a pedestal

[Karate Diop]

FIBA is not the NBA. Calm down ya’ll

That's the point... If he can be targeted and turned into a liability in FIBA then without Daddy Bron he's going to be in for a ride awakening.

[Ayt]

FIBA is not the NBA. Calm down ya’ll

I understand that. I have seen enough to suggest his foul baiting is not going to work long term (especially when he's not playing with Lebron)

He's also almost in his late 20's and has probably reached his ceiling

He just turned 25 and now "he's almost in his late 20's?" LMAO.

[Up-And-Coming]

I knew the General Board will have a field day bashing Reaves after this one bad game and I was not disappointed . It was a bad game. 9 games out of the 10 FIBA games he played he was clearly one of the better players on the whole US team.

My opinions on him have not changed and the reality is he's still the same player . I recommend all of you to go back and re-watch Reaves Game 2 against the Warriors. He shot 3-11, 1-5 from 3 and only had 7 points. It was another bad game and it'll make your day and reinforce you're belief he's a below-average role-player (except when you zoom out and look at the data holistically you would see he had an amazing playoff run and is having a great FIBA tourney).

[og15]

Herro is 23, has put up 20-5-4 seasons already and gets trashed like he’s a negative player

This guy has a decent season in a smaller role at 26 and people are overrating him, debating future all star convo, gets invited to Team USA.

It doesn’t make sense to me at all.

Team USA like all teams needs role players, some guys are better at playing the role player role than others, what's the issue?