Dennis Schröder Compares NBA Trade Deadline to Slavery

BigGargamel · Post #141 » by **BigGargamel** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:50 am

I get the point he's trying to make. Especially for a guy who's been traded as much as he has. But you have to use a better analogy. It's just in poor taste.

And also, this country is in a recession and people can't afford eggs and rent. They aren't going to feel sorry for any millionaires, no matter how many times they have to change their jersey colors.

I see his point, but read the room.

Sane · Post #142 » by **Sane** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:56 am

I mean, it is weird that it mostly still happens in American only (athletes having to move against their will without getting to negotiate new terms).

atlantabbq99 · Post #143 » by **atlantabbq99** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:08 am

I posted it after the nets/gsw trade that DS might break the record for player who played for the most teams

Masigond · Post #144 » by **Masigond** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:14 am

Schröder is free to retire from the NBA while still having the chance to work in another job. Even with the chance to continue to play basketball in another league (albeit for a considerably lower salary...). That's very different from being a slave who is forced to do a job and who doesn't have a chance to change his life.

Zvaart · Post #145 » by **Zvaart** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:15 am

Oh, the irony......

Wargreymon · Post #146 » by **Wargreymon** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:27 am

Yikes…feel bad for the guy to get traded yet again.

Jcity08 · Post #147 » by **Jcity08** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:22 am

Nah, Dennis, you are the definition of FAFO, you declined an 84 million dollar extension in 2021 and that **** haunts you to this day. You made a choice that day to leave that money on the table and walk away from that financial security.

If my job tells me I have to move to a different department, in a different part of town, I do it because I want to continue working in that company but no one is forcing me to stay with that company.

You sign a contract but then decide you aren't happy you are being traded, you can either honor the contract or walk away from the NBA, plenty of leagues out there, I hear Chinas nice this time of year.

MassimoPayne · Post #148 » by **MassimoPayne** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:26 am

I think you all took this too literally. All he said was that you have 0 influence where you are going to be moved to and that you are just an asset in a billionaires world.
He obviously knows that earning millions is no slavery and everyone is free to exit.

Jcity08 · Post #149 » by **Jcity08** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:43 am

MassimoPayne wrote:I think you all took this too literally. All he said was that you have 0 influence where you are going to be moved to and that you are just an asset in a billionaires world.
He obviously knows that earning millions is no slavery and everyone is free to exit.

No you do have influence, at the end of the day any player can just not go to work, thats always an option, they probably wont have a job in the league and whatever was left on their contract they'll lose buts thats always an option.

And I know, you're going to say that not showing up isn't an option or realistic but it is, if my job tells me I have to go to Milwaukee to work at their branch over their, I can tell my boss to **** off. I'll be fired immediately but thats still an option. Schroder doesn't have to work in the NBA, he has way more opprotunity than majority of people on this planet to leave his current work arrangement and find another.

He's even more in the wrong because players can negotiate NTC as we seen with Beal or Player Option or Poison Pills, theirs already mechanisms in place give players agency & leverage in their contracts.

And then when a player wants out and has no leverage, they literally can force their way out and put pressure on a team to trade them by just being billigerent.

Dennis Schröder is a **** idiot.

lambchop · Post #150 » by **lambchop** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:50 am

Jcity08 wrote:
MassimoPayne wrote:I think you all took this too literally. All he said was that you have 0 influence where you are going to be moved to and that you are just an asset in a billionaires world.
He obviously knows that earning millions is no slavery and everyone is free to exit.

No you do have influence, at the end of the day any player can just not go to work, thats always an option, they probably wont have a job in the league and whatever was left on their contract they'll lose buts thats always an option.

And I know, you're going to say that not showing up isn't an option or realistic but it is, if my job tells me I have to go to Milwaukee to work at their branch over their, I can tell my boss to **** off. I'll be fired immediately but thats still an option. Schroder doesn't have to work in the NBA, he has way more opprotunity than majority of people on this planet to leave his current work arrangement and find another.

He's even more in the wrong because players can negotiate NTC as we seen with Beal or Player Option, theirs already mechanisms in place give players agency & leverage in their contracts.

And then when a player wants out and has no leverage, they literally can force their way out and put pressure on a team to trade them by just being billigerent.

Dennis Schröder is a **** idiot.

This. On top of that, he can always pull a Ben Simmons and just not play or pull a Rubio and say he needs time away for mental health reasons. And, no, I'm not ridiculing Rubio, I'm just saying that these possibilities actually exist and no one is forcing him to work for his money.

sisibilio · Post #151 » by **sisibilio** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:56 am

BigGargamel wrote:I get the point he's trying to make. Especially for a guy who's been traded as much as he has. But you have to use a better analogy. It's just in poor taste.

And also, this country is in a recession and people can't afford eggs and rent. They aren't going to feel sorry for any millionaires, no matter how many times they have to change their jersey colors.

I see his point, but read the room.

On a side note, what's this obsession with egg price? how many eggs does the average american eat a day?

El Turco · Post #152 » by **El Turco** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:06 am

Sane wrote:I mean, it is weird that it mostly still happens in American only (athletes having to move against their will without getting to negotiate new terms).

Players are employees of the NBA, not the teams. Just like any other employer with multiple locations, employees can be moved by the employer if it is stipulated in their contracts.

That's why teams are called franchises, instead of clubs.

Chuck Everett · Post #153 » by **Chuck Everett** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:08 am

sisibilio wrote:
BigGargamel wrote:I get the point he's trying to make. Especially for a guy who's been traded as much as he has. But you have to use a better analogy. It's just in poor taste.

And also, this country is in a recession and people can't afford eggs and rent. They aren't going to feel sorry for any millionaires, no matter how many times they have to change their jersey colors.

I see his point, but read the room.

On a side note, what's this obsession with egg price? how many eggs does the average american eat a day?

Good source of protein, brother. Some of us eat (2) eggs at least 2-3 times a week.

sisibilio · Post #154 » by **sisibilio** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:45 am

I know, i eat almost everyday + lots of egg whites, but even if they double in price, still super cheap, in the grand scheme of things that's the lesser of your problems.

El Turco · Post #155 » by **El Turco** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:48 am

sisibilio wrote:
BigGargamel wrote:I get the point he's trying to make. Especially for a guy who's been traded as much as he has. But you have to use a better analogy. It's just in poor taste.

And also, this country is in a recession and people can't afford eggs and rent. They aren't going to feel sorry for any millionaires, no matter how many times they have to change their jersey colors.

I see his point, but read the room.

On a side note, what's this obsession with egg price? how many eggs does the average american eat a day?

It is used as informal representative of inflation and whole economy(and propaganda), they are not strictly talking about eggs. More or less like Big Mac index.

maverick_41 · Post #156 » by **maverick_41** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:56 am

MrBigShot wrote:Dumbest quote from any player of all time

Green was even dumber. He protested against the word OWNER (of the team) because it reminded him about the slavery. But I think it was during good old BLM chaos and everyone tried to hype as hard as he possible could.

Sane · Post #157 » by **Sane** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 10:05 am

El Turco wrote:
Sane wrote:I mean, it is weird that it mostly still happens in American only (athletes having to move against their will without getting to negotiate new terms).

Players are employees of the NBA, not the teams. Just like any other employer with multiple locations, employees can be moved by the employer if it is stipulated in their contracts.

That's why teams are called franchises, instead of clubs.

Yeah that's messed up, soccer players are not employees of FIFA. They're made up titles, in practice it's very out of place.

-Spyda- · Post #158 » by **-Spyda-** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:06 am

Come home Dennis

Lakers.

NoStatsGuy · Post #159 » by **NoStatsGuy** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:24 am

Sane wrote:I mean, it is weird that it mostly still happens in American only (athletes having to move against their will without getting to negotiate new terms).

thats the nature of the franchising model. i dont think it has anything to do with america neccessarily.

imagine if this was european soccer.. the lakers would be able to just straight up buy luka, jokic and giannis and could pay them all 100 mil a year, while charlotte or the hawks cant even afford to pay 1 player 20 mil a year. that'd be horrible

the nba needs the franchising model and i honestly dont see a solution to this problem. i get that moving cross country every other year or even multiple times per year is super tough, especially with kids and all. and i think working in some kind of compensation in the CBA, in whatever way would be really nice for the players. but when you get compensated 10s of millions per year, i think its a sacrifice that most people are willing to make.

DimesandKnicks · Post #160 » by **DimesandKnicks** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:27 pm

BigGargamel wrote:I get the point he's trying to make. Especially for a guy who's been traded as much as he has. But you have to use a better analogy. It's just in poor taste.

And also, this country is in a recession and people can't afford eggs and rent. They aren't going to feel sorry for any millionaires, no matter how many times they have to change their jersey colors.

I see his point, but read the room.

We are not in a recession