Welcome to Boston, Torrey Craig!

[ThePigeon]

Agreed and I'll add two more observations.

1) Doesn't come off as a player who will make mistakes

2) If he proves he still has some gas, he's a guaranteed 1 yr deal type of player going forward. Knocking down 3's for a team who likes to shoot 3's that could be good for the end of the bench.

If any big contracts are moved and roster spots needs to be filled a 1 yr 3mil deal could be a steal

Hauser insurance
If we need to cut costs, and a big contract isn't moved, maybe Hauser is the one to be traded (I am not advocating it, I like Hauser)
He is a solid defender and about 40% 3pt shooter
Good enough

Dude is going to be 35 next year, I think he's a this year run only kind of guy. I mean, if he's here next year and does great then super, but what are they going to do, ship out Sam Hauser to rely on a 35-36 year old Torrey Craig?

If the new ownership will decide to cut costs - maybe

For a guy that comes off the bench - 35 is not too old. Al is 38/9 and is playing pretty good off the bench
The 2008 Celtics had PJ Brown and Cassel at 37

I don't think that we need to do it, just saying it is a possibility

[Celts17Pride]

Agreed and I'll add two more observations.

1) Doesn't come off as a player who will make mistakes

2) If he proves he still has some gas, he's a guaranteed 1 yr deal type of player going forward. Knocking down 3's for a team who likes to shoot 3's that could be good for the end of the bench.

If any big contracts are moved and roster spots needs to be filled a 1 yr 3mil deal could be a steal

Hauser insurance
If we need to cut costs, and a big contract isn't moved, maybe Hauser is the one to be traded (I am not advocating it, I like Hauser)
He is a solid defender and about 40% 3pt shooter
Good enough

Dude is going to be 35 next year, I think he's a this year run only kind of guy. I mean, if he's here next year and does great then super, but what are they going to do, ship out Sam Hauser to rely on a 35-36 year old Torrey Craig?

Jrue Holiday is going to be 35 years old next year.

[165bows]

Hauser insurance
If we need to cut costs, and a big contract isn't moved, maybe Hauser is the one to be traded (I am not advocating it, I like Hauser)
He is a solid defender and about 40% 3pt shooter
Good enough

Dude is going to be 35 next year, I think he's a this year run only kind of guy. I mean, if he's here next year and does great then super, but what are they going to do, ship out Sam Hauser to rely on a 35-36 year old Torrey Craig?

If the new ownership will decide to cut costs - maybe

For a guy that comes off the bench - 35 is not too old. Al is 38/9 and is playing pretty good off the bench
The 2008 Celtics had PJ Brown and Cassel at 37

I don't think that we need to do it, just saying it is a possibility

Sure but those guys were good players in their primes, esp Horford/Cassell. I just don't think he's a long term guy that impacts the rotation guys is all I'm saying.

[165bows]

Hauser insurance
If we need to cut costs, and a big contract isn't moved, maybe Hauser is the one to be traded (I am not advocating it, I like Hauser)
He is a solid defender and about 40% 3pt shooter
Good enough

Dude is going to be 35 next year, I think he's a this year run only kind of guy. I mean, if he's here next year and does great then super, but what are they going to do, ship out Sam Hauser to rely on a 35-36 year old Torrey Craig?

Jrue Holiday is going to be 35 years old next year.

Sure but do I need to point out the obvious that Jrue is and has been an elite player and Torrey Craig has never been a starter level guy and has nowhere to fall off from?

He's a waiver guy for a reason no one would give up a second round pick for him.

[phincsfan]

Definitely insurance for Sam, but I think for this year only.

I really think Sam is the bench favorite amongst the starters. Nothing against PP, but I just get that sense when I'm watching games.

[Celts17Pride]

Dude is going to be 35 next year, I think he's a this year run only kind of guy. I mean, if he's here next year and does great then super, but what are they going to do, ship out Sam Hauser to rely on a 35-36 year old Torrey Craig?

Jrue Holiday is going to be 35 years old next year.

Sure but do I need to point out the obvious that Jrue is and has been an elite player and Torrey Craig has never been a starter level guy and has nowhere to fall off from?

He's a waiver guy for a reason no one would give up a second round pick for him.

My only point is it's tough to say 35 year old player A can't have a role on the bench because he is to old and then count on 35 year old player B to start and play 25-30 minutes per game. Not really sound logic there in my opinion. Let's see what Torrey Craig does with his time with the Celtics this year.

[165bows]

Jrue Holiday is going to be 35 years old next year.

Sure but do I need to point out the obvious that Jrue is and has been an elite player and Torrey Craig has never been a starter level guy and has nowhere to fall off from?

He's a waiver guy for a reason no one would give up a second round pick for him.

My only point is it's tough to say 35 year old player A can't have a role on the bench because he is to old and then count on 35 year old player B to start and play 25-30 minutes per game. Not really sound logic there in my opinion. Let's see what Torrey Craig does with his time with the Celtics this year.

There's nothing illogical about what I am saying, otoh it's silly to ignore that player quality + decline w age have a strong predictive quality.

Tl;dr if they trade Sam Hauser it doesn't have anything to do w Torrey Craig being here or not. Unless one thinks Craig is offered a multi-year extension from Boston this summer.

[Celts17Pride]

Sure but do I need to point out the obvious that Jrue is and has been an elite player and Torrey Craig has never been a starter level guy and has nowhere to fall off from?

He's a waiver guy for a reason no one would give up a second round pick for him.

My only point is it's tough to say 35 year old player A can't have a role on the bench because he is to old and then count on 35 year old player B to start and play 25-30 minutes per game. Not really sound logic there in my opinion. Let's see what Torrey Craig does with his time with the Celtics this year.

There's nothing illogical about what I am saying, otoh it's silly to ignore that player quality + decline w age have a strong predictive quality.

Tl;dr if they trade Sam Hauser it doesn't have anything to do w Torrey Craig being here or not. Unless one thinks Craig is offered a multi-year extension from Boston this summer.

I'm not talking about trading Sam Hauser at all, I'm just saying if everything goes well with Torrey Craig this year then it's probably 50/50 that he could be back next year. It's not impossible, depends how it goes this year. Craig would probably be back at the vet min if the Celtics were interested.

[165bows]

My only point is it's tough to say 35 year old player A can't have a role on the bench because he is to old and then count on 35 year old player B to start and play 25-30 minutes per game. Not really sound logic there in my opinion. Let's see what Torrey Craig does with his time with the Celtics this year.

There's nothing illogical about what I am saying, otoh it's silly to ignore that player quality + decline w age have a strong predictive quality.

Tl;dr if they trade Sam Hauser it doesn't have anything to do w Torrey Craig being here or not. Unless one thinks Craig is offered a multi-year extension from Boston this summer.

I'm not talking about trading Sam Hauser at all, I'm just saying if everything goes well with Torrey Craig this year then it's probably 50/50 that he could be back next year. It's not impossible, depends how it goes this year. Craig would probably be back at the vet min if the Celtics were interested.

Ok well my whole post was responding to the idea of him being Hauser insurance, which if we want to look at it in the short term, great, but in the context of "insurance" for Sam in case he's traded, I think Craig is totally irrelevant.

[Celts17Pride]

There's nothing illogical about what I am saying, otoh it's silly to ignore that player quality + decline w age have a strong predictive quality.

Tl;dr if they trade Sam Hauser it doesn't have anything to do w Torrey Craig being here or not. Unless one thinks Craig is offered a multi-year extension from Boston this summer.

I'm not talking about trading Sam Hauser at all, I'm just saying if everything goes well with Torrey Craig this year then it's probably 50/50 that he could be back next year. It's not impossible, depends how it goes this year. Craig would probably be back at the vet min if the Celtics were interested.

Ok well my whole post was responding to the idea of him being Hauser insurance, which if we want to look at it in the short term, great, but in the context of "insurance" for Sam in case he's traded, I think Craig is totally irrelevant.

Agreed. Craig is insurance this year in case Hauser gets hurt but he won't be stealing any minutes away from Hauser especially in the playoffs.

Playoffs, Joe Mazzulla is going to go with his Top 8/9 - White, Tatum, Brown, Holiday, KP, PP, Hauser, Horford/Kornet. Everyone else is situational, garbage time and injury insurance including whatever 15th guy the Celtics pick up if they use the slot.

[playa-hater]

Didn't see it mentioned but Graig hitting B2B 3 pointers and making them look natural makes me love Graig more than Brisset last year. Brisset was an all out energy guy but every 3 he took I could only hope it went in. Graig looks like I would expect them to go in and be surprised when they miss.

Also would love to see Graig and Hauser together often. Switchable Wings are still my top Priority.

[Tatumfor2]

Didn't see it mentioned but Graig hitting B2B 3 pointers and making them look natural makes me love Graig more than Brisset last year. Brisset was an all out energy guy but every 3 he took I could only hope it went in. Graig looks like I would expect them to go in and be surprised when they miss.

Also would love to see Graig and Hauser together often. Switchable Wings are still my top Priority.

It's Craig not Graig. You typed Graig too many times for it to be a typo.

[playa-hater]

Didn't see it mentioned but Graig hitting B2B 3 pointers and making them look natural makes me love Graig more than Brisset last year. Brisset was an all out energy guy but every 3 he took I could only hope it went in. Graig looks like I would expect them to go in and be surprised when they miss.

Also would love to see Graig and Hauser together often. Switchable Wings are still my top Priority.

It's Craig not Graig. You typed Graig too many times for it to be a typo.

I am very near sided without my glasses. I can see an ant on a wall 40 feet away. Or a celtic player throwing up a brick on t v.. But I can't for the life of me. See half of what I read lol.. You and craig can sue me

[ITYSL]

Pretty good shooter off the bench who will get you some 3s and at least try on defense. I doubt we'll see him on the floor much in the playoffs, but he's a decent bench player to have when we have one or more starters out. Will take minutes from Queta, Tillman, Walsh and Baylor depending on matchup.

[Hal14]

Dude is going to be 35 next year, I think he's a this year run only kind of guy. I mean, if he's here next year and does great then super, but what are they going to do, ship out Sam Hauser to rely on a 35-36 year old Torrey Craig?

Jrue Holiday is going to be 35 years old next year.

Sure but do I need to point out the obvious that Jrue is and has been an elite player and Torrey Craig has never been a starter level guy and has nowhere to fall off from?

He's a waiver guy for a reason no one would give up a second round pick for him.

1) We're only talking about keeping him for one more year here - for next season. Even if he declines, I doubt the decline in the span of just 1 season (from age 34 to age 35) would be *that* significant.

He looks like a solid 9th/10th man right now. Even if he declines slightly, then next season we still have ourselves a solid 10th/11th man. I'll take that on a 1 year minimum contract for sure.

2) "He's never been a starter level guy" is correct..he's started 168 games in his career, plus 19 playoff games that he's started

3) I don't really see how "he's a waiver guy and no one would give up a 2nd round pick for him" holds water. Obviously he wasn't going to get traded. 34 yr old role player on a cheap expiring contract. That's exactly the type of player who gets bought out, then signs with a contender, as opposed to being traded.

Now, usually role player buyout guys who are 34+ are just signings for rest of season. But not always. If the guy can still play..if he keeps himself in shape and puts in the work to keep his skills sharp, no reason why he can't still contribute for another year or 2.

[Shak_Celts]

If he can stay healthy first, keep shooting around 40% from 3, and learn and effectively implement what we want on D then he can get minutes in the playoffs. I don’t think it will be as difficult as people say, but he must do those things consistently the rest of the season first. I know Joe only plays our few guys but it’s not like he wouldn’t if they fit what he wants. He played Brissy and no one has taken that spot, no one Joe seems to see yet. There is a chance he could get a consistent 10 minutes, it’s not a lot but it can be impactful.

One game means nothing, his history probably does, but he has to show he’s so capable of that even when his minutes are far and few in between.

We could use him but Joe isn’t going to play him just because we want him to. I would have been playing Walsh no matter what, 10 minutes a game every game, unless we had to force JB and JT longer. I don’t think it would have hurt us. Joe knows more than I do, maybe Walsh has tailed off on enthusiasm and work ethic as young people do from time to time, I don’t know. I just know, there is ROOM in the depth chart for someone with TC’s skillset, but it doesn’t mean he’ll play.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I figured he'd be totally cooked like past luminaries such as Gallanari and Muscala, but he was fine actually and quite functional. So, a pleasant surprise. Hopefully, this will continue...

[FlatearthZorro]

I figured he'd be totally cooked like past luminaries such as Gallanari and Muscala, but he was fine actually and quite functional. So, a pleasant surprise. Hopefully, this will continue...

He was a pretty good role player for the Bucks a while back. Unless he's injured, he still has a dog in him.
I still like Hauser more due to size, age, agility, shooting, etc... But Craig is an insurance blanket.

[Triple7]

There's nothing illogical about what I am saying, otoh it's silly to ignore that player quality + decline w age have a strong predictive quality.

Tl;dr if they trade Sam Hauser it doesn't have anything to do w Torrey Craig being here or not. Unless one thinks Craig is offered a multi-year extension from Boston this summer.

I'm not talking about trading Sam Hauser at all, I'm just saying if everything goes well with Torrey Craig this year then it's probably 50/50 that he could be back next year. It's not impossible, depends how it goes this year. Craig would probably be back at the vet min if the Celtics were interested.

Ok well my whole post was responding to the idea of him being Hauser insurance, which if we want to look at it in the short term, great, but in the context of "insurance" for Sam in case he's traded, I think Craig is totally irrelevant.

If we want hauser insurance moving forward, then that should come from one of Peterson, Walsh or scheierman. Those guys can shoot, and a much better at attacking the paint than a catch and shoot guy like hauser. Hauser tends to have those shooting slumps, and he’s useless if he can’t knock those 3’s down. Those 3 can even be as good, even better than hauser if properly developed.

[meatball sub]

He looks better than Brissett ever did so for that role this is a W