PG Indy: Bucks on the brink

[BroncoBuck]

Who cares if he had an MRI? If showed a bruise. You said last year he was done, then he dominated in the playoffs. All he needed to do was better than Kuzma. 2 dozen guys from the G League could do that.

It’s the same knee soreness that caused him to have surgery in 2023. He’s done. Khris wouldn’t have played a single game this series. He can’t move. It’s gotten to the point where it’s so bad he can’t even shoot well anymore.

You can keep lying to yourself all you want, but Khris Middleton is done. His legs are toast. Prepare yourself for the inevitable “Khris Middleton had offseason surgery” articles that are going to drop.

Middleton literally played through needing surgery year after year. He didn't need to be great to be better than Kuzma. His basketball IQ alone saves the team.

This season Khris sat out the first 20+ games of the season then played with minutes restrictions the rest of the year. He didn’t play back to backs and he had multiple stretches where he sat out multiple games. All self imposed.

All time Buck, but he is not Kawhi. He can’t move anymore. His legs are shot. That’s why his shooting has fallen off a cliff as well. He doesn’t trust his body and it seems pretty evident that his reputation for not exactly being a gym rat has caught up to him.

[SupremeHustle]

We needed everyone healthy to have a shot at getting out of the first round. Just a shot. That, and the regular season should have been the clues for all of us that this would be the outcome this season. Doc was a lot worse than I imagined he'd be, though.

Gil Arenas tried to tell us.

[CharityStripe34]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

[JayMKE]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

If they hit 20 3s they probably win, seems like the formula

[raferfenix]

We played our 34-year old All-Star PG the 9th most minutes of anyone in the league, then proceeded to play him 37 minutes in a playoff game after not playing since mid-March and being nowhere near game shape/conditioning. I'm stunned that injuries have cut short his season the past two years.

Doc Rivers is a basketball terrorist and he's killed any hope we had of contending for another championship these last couple years, and most likely the next couple as well. He's worse than George Karl. He's worse than Jason Kidd. I've never hated a coach in my lifetime as much as this clown. **** him, and banish him from this city forever.

I wonder how much Dame blames Doc.

[j_hilge444]

Further ammo for the regular season matters crowd. Bucks get a better seed & there isn't as much pressure for Dame to rush back & play big minutes.

[MissKhriddleton]

We played our 34-year old All-Star PG the 9th most minutes of anyone in the league, then proceeded to play him 37 minutes in a playoff game after not playing since mid-March and being nowhere near game shape/conditioning. I'm stunned that injuries have cut short his season the past two years.

Doc Rivers is a basketball terrorist and he's killed any hope we had of contending for another championship these last couple years, and most likely the next couple as well. He's worse than George Karl. He's worse than Jason Kidd. I've never hated a coach in my lifetime as much as this clown. **** him, and banish him from this city forever.

I wonder how much Dame blames Doc.

Do we think Doc has the final say over the medical staff and the player himself in how many minutes a player coming back from injury can play?

Doc sucks but he didn’t kill anything. The roster is flawed and we’ve been incredibly unfortunate with injuries.

[Iheartfootball]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

You some sorta masochist? Just let it end. Please and thank you.

[SupremeHustle]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

Not at all, man. These guys are done, including the head coach.

[LUKE23]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

Nope. And if they do lose, I hope it's in embarassing fashion. There needs to be zero doubt about Doc being fired.

[Wonka]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

Nope. And if they do lose, I hope it's in embarassing fashion. There needs to be zero doubt about Doc being fired.

I get the sinking feeling that Doc is safe regardless of the outcome or how bad things truly are. I hope I am wrong.

[paulpressey25]

We needed everyone healthy to have a shot at getting out of the first round. Just a shot. That, and the regular season should have been the clues for all of us that this would be the outcome this season. Doc was a lot worse than I imagined he'd be, though.

Gil Arenas tried to tell us.

And Spike and Mike on Rights to Rickey Sanchez pod. Those guys put us on life support once it was announced Doc was the coach here. Always trust the super local fans. They know the real story on stuff.

[Bucksmaniac]

Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone think there's a remote chance the team rallies for a gritty (improbable) Game 5 win?

Nope. And if they do lose, I hope it's in embarassing fashion. There needs to be zero doubt about Doc being fired.

I get the sinking feeling that Doc is safe regardless of the outcome or how bad things truly are. I hope I am wrong.

Might need a bench brawl within the team to get him canned?

[Wonka]

We needed everyone healthy to have a shot at getting out of the first round. Just a shot. That, and the regular season should have been the clues for all of us that this would be the outcome this season. Doc was a lot worse than I imagined he'd be, though.

Gil Arenas tried to tell us.

And Spike and Mike on Rights to Rickey Sanchez pod. Those guys put us on life support once it was announced Doc was the coach here. Always trust the super local fans. They know the real story on stuff.

I feel like 90 percent of the posters here weren't too keen on Doc before or after the hire. Maybe one of the few uniting forces on the board the last few years.

[SupremeHustle]

We needed everyone healthy to have a shot at getting out of the first round. Just a shot. That, and the regular season should have been the clues for all of us that this would be the outcome this season. Doc was a lot worse than I imagined he'd be, though.

Gil Arenas tried to tell us.

And Spike and Mike on Rights to Rickey Sanchez pod. Those guys put us on life support once it was announced Doc was the coach here. Always trust the super local fans. They know the real story on stuff.

I feel like 90 percent of the posters here weren't too keen on Doc before or after the hire. Maybe one of the few uniting forces on the board the last few years.

Was there a poll? Probably not because it happened so fast. I still think Doc was hired before Griff was fired. No proof, though. Just a hunch.

[ShootingtheJ]

It’s the same knee soreness that caused him to have surgery in 2023. He’s done. Khris wouldn’t have played a single game this series. He can’t move. It’s gotten to the point where it’s so bad he can’t even shoot well anymore.

You can keep lying to yourself all you want, but Khris Middleton is done. His legs are toast. Prepare yourself for the inevitable “Khris Middleton had offseason surgery” articles that are going to drop.

Middleton literally played through needing surgery year after year. He didn't need to be great to be better than Kuzma. His basketball IQ alone saves the team.

This season Khris sat out the first 20+ games of the season then played with minutes restrictions the rest of the year. He didn’t play back to backs and he had multiple stretches where he sat out multiple games. All self imposed.

All time Buck, but he is not Kawhi. He can’t move anymore. His legs are shot. That’s why his shooting has fallen off a cliff as well. He doesn’t trust his body and it seems pretty evident that his reputation for not exactly being a gym rat has caught up to him.

He had a 63TS% as a Buck and was .6 VORP in just 23 games before the trade. He played in a back to back, and never missed more than 1 game after his return. There wasn't a single stretch he sat out multiple games after his return, much less multiple.

He finished the season 2 VORP more than Kyle Kuzma.

[ShootingtheJ]

Firing coaches is easy. Doc will be canned by the end of the week, assuming we lose another game.

[ShootingtheJ]

Hats off to the Pacers, they kept making the shots to stop us gaining any ground.

We're a dumpster fire, I dunno.

Agree, the Pacers just played their best game of the series, for the 1st time I was thoroughly impressed with them. Who is Carlyle's top assistant?

[Bucksmaniac]

Middleton literally played through needing surgery year after year. He didn't need to be great to be better than Kuzma. His basketball IQ alone saves the team.

This season Khris sat out the first 20+ games of the season then played with minutes restrictions the rest of the year. He didn’t play back to backs and he had multiple stretches where he sat out multiple games. All self imposed.

All time Buck, but he is not Kawhi. He can’t move anymore. His legs are shot. That’s why his shooting has fallen off a cliff as well. He doesn’t trust his body and it seems pretty evident that his reputationfor not exactly being a gym rat has caught up to him.

He had a 63TS% as a Buck and was .6 VORP in just 23 games before the trade. He played in a back to back, and never missed more than 1 game after his return. There wasn't a single stretch he sat out multiple games after his return, much less multiple.

He finished the season 2 VORP more than Kyle Kuzma.

Brook when he was just about to turn 37 had a whole month averaging 60/40/80 playing over 30 mins a game but because you don’t like him we know it’s crickets from you.

[agiaco]

I'm really torn. Running it back with Giannis and a bunch of random pieces just feels like a bad idea if the Bucks actually want to build something for the future. Giannis is too good to let them fully bottom out, but not good enough on his own to drag a flawed roster back into real contention. And honestly, it’s painful to even picture him wearing another jersey.

At this point, I’m not even sure what the Bucks can realistically do to stay competitive for the rest of Giannis' time here — assuming he stays committed. When Lillard finally comes back, I don't see how he wouldn't have regressed even more. He’s still a great player, but he just hasn’t been what the Bucks needed to seriously chase another title.

The only guys I really want back are KPJ, AJ Green, and maybe Bobby — though it kind of feels like he’s run his course too. I’m so sick of these big, slow 5s who bring no real versatility. It's just not where the league is going anymore.