Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX)

UKMagic · Post #1401 » by **UKMagic** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:03 pm

I found the NJ offer insulting for Dwight. I actually think Orlando could get Deron IF he was got to like NJ obviously got to Dwight. IF Deron could be badgered to demand a trade to Orlando then a package of Jameer, JJ, Ryan, Orton and Fran rights is more than fair value when you reflect what the Nets offered for Howard. I'd hate to see Jameer and JJ go and if possible, depending on the time of the year, would gladly sub in JRich for JJ.

Magic can go with Dwight and Deron, add in Turk, JJ/JRich, Davis, QRich, Hughes, Clark, and try to pick up KMart or JR Smith who I believe are available with the MLE? I've seen worse building blocks for a 9 man rotation. Also, could get some decent vets to fill out the roster. Certainly better than the Nets offer to Dwight.

On a side, possibly offer adidas some kind of sponsorship incentive in the amway in return for a huge marketing campaign focused on Dwight and Orlando? Just a thought.

warren4prez · Post #1402 » by **warren4prez** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:31 pm

UKMagic wrote:I found the NJ offer insulting for Dwight. I actually think Orlando could get Deron IF he was got to like NJ obviously got to Dwight. IF Deron could be badgered to demand a trade to Orlando then a package of Jameer, JJ, Ryan, Orton and Fran rights is more than fair value when you reflect what the Nets offered for Howard. I'd hate to see Jameer and JJ go and if possible, depending on the time of the year, would gladly sub in JRich for JJ.

Magic can go with Dwight and Deron, add in Turk, JJ/JRich, Davis, QRich, Hughes, Clark, and try to pick up KMart or JR Smith who I believe are available with the MLE? I've seen worse building blocks for a 9 man rotation. Also, could get some decent vets to fill out the roster. Certainly better than the Nets offer to Dwight.

On a side, possibly offer adidas some kind of sponsorship incentive in the amway in return for a huge marketing campaign focused on Dwight and Orlando? Just a thought.

Everything starts with Dwight... I don't know why CP3 didn't have Orlando on his list, which leads me to believe what discussions him and D12 have didn't include the magic. Dwight needs to recruit and he is not doing so, it would be good if we can get wilson chandler for MLE.

The Magic Man · Post #1403 » by **The Magic Man** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:48 pm

warren4prez wrote:
UKMagic wrote:I found the NJ offer insulting for Dwight. I actually think Orlando could get Deron IF he was got to like NJ obviously got to Dwight. IF Deron could be badgered to demand a trade to Orlando then a package of Jameer, JJ, Ryan, Orton and Fran rights is more than fair value when you reflect what the Nets offered for Howard. I'd hate to see Jameer and JJ go and if possible, depending on the time of the year, would gladly sub in JRich for JJ.

Magic can go with Dwight and Deron, add in Turk, JJ/JRich, Davis, QRich, Hughes, Clark, and try to pick up KMart or JR Smith who I believe are available with the MLE? I've seen worse building blocks for a 9 man rotation. Also, could get some decent vets to fill out the roster. Certainly better than the Nets offer to Dwight.

On a side, possibly offer adidas some kind of sponsorship incentive in the amway in return for a huge marketing campaign focused on Dwight and Orlando? Just a thought.

Everything starts with Dwight... I don't know why CP3 didn't have Orlando on his list, which leads me to believe what discussions him and D12 have didn't include the magic. Dwight needs to recruit and he is not doing so, it would be good if we can get wilson chandler for MLE.

Wilson Chandler=overated :lol:

Dwight is not going to stay because of Wilson Chandler,we have to get a allstar which is unlikely.

NickAndersonsBack25 · Post #1404 » by **NickAndersonsBack25** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:28 pm

Wasn't hasn't there been a new thread about the Magic pursuing Ostertag as their back-up big.

tiderulz · Post #1405 » by **tiderulz** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:36 pm

The Magic Man wrote:
warren4prez wrote:
UKMagic wrote:I found the NJ offer insulting for Dwight. I actually think Orlando could get Deron IF he was got to like NJ obviously got to Dwight. IF Deron could be badgered to demand a trade to Orlando then a package of Jameer, JJ, Ryan, Orton and Fran rights is more than fair value when you reflect what the Nets offered for Howard. I'd hate to see Jameer and JJ go and if possible, depending on the time of the year, would gladly sub in JRich for JJ.

Magic can go with Dwight and Deron, add in Turk, JJ/JRich, Davis, QRich, Hughes, Clark, and try to pick up KMart or JR Smith who I believe are available with the MLE? I've seen worse building blocks for a 9 man rotation. Also, could get some decent vets to fill out the roster. Certainly better than the Nets offer to Dwight.

On a side, possibly offer adidas some kind of sponsorship incentive in the amway in return for a huge marketing campaign focused on Dwight and Orlando? Just a thought.

Everything starts with Dwight... I don't know why CP3 didn't have Orlando on his list, which leads me to believe what discussions him and D12 have didn't include the magic. Dwight needs to recruit and he is not doing so, it would be good if we can get wilson chandler for MLE.
Wilson Chandler=overated Dwight is not going to stay because of Wilson Chandler,we have to get a allstar which is unlikely.

chandler at the MLE is a good pickup. it would help show Dwight the FO is putting better players around him. I realize YOU dont like it, as it doesnt help your agenda of getting Dwight out of Orlando.

jadewbj · Post #1406 » by **jadewbj** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:51 pm

Derron:

“We need some more pieces,” Williams told the New York Times. “There’s no secret about that. There’s not many starters on our team right now. We have a lot of great role players, a lot of guys who know their job, but in this league you need some top-tier guys so you can get the job done.”

The nets have done just as little for derron as we have for dwight. He needs to realize we have better pieces that NJ and our weather and taxes are much nicer.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1407 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 pm

jadewbj wrote:Derron:
“We need some more pieces,” Williams told the New York Times. “There’s no secret about that. There’s not many starters on our team right now. We have a lot of great role players, a lot of guys who know their job, but in this league you need some top-tier guys so you can get the job done.”

The nets have done just as little for derron as we have for dwight. He needs to realize we have better pieces that NJ and our weather and taxes are much nicer.

If the Nets keep playing this badly, I bet Deron could demand a trade out of there. Think about it, there is no garauntee their owner will spend like the Devos. Magic will spend, that is a given. No garautee the Nets will get the right role players to be any better than the Magic now. Maybe, the Magic could get a 3rd team involved to trade for Deron.

jadewbj · Post #1408 » by **jadewbj** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:04 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:If the Nets keep playing this badly, I bet Deron could demand a trade out of there. Think about it, there is no garauntee their owner will spend like the Devos. Magic will spend, that is a given. No garautee the Nets will get the right role players to be any better than the Magic now. Maybe, the Magic could get a 3rd team involved to trade for Deron.

Plus if the owner is going to run for Russian presidency that may affect his willingness to spend.

gp123 · Post #1409 » by **gp123** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:27 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:Warriors sign Fesenko, per wiretap

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... gn_Fesenko

1 yr deal a little over 1 mill. WTF Otis ? Could have signed this guy. We need a backup big! Meanwhile, Earl Barron is still available.

This might allow us to get "back" (not that we were probably ever) into the game for an ellis/biedrins package...

rcklsscognition · Post #1410 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:25 am

Przybilla is looking for a team still too. He will never come here, but I would think Otis would have to be looking for a center even if he plans on dealing Dwight. You're not getting 2 centers back in any trade, so at some point, a center is going to be needed.

J_Magic · Post #1411 » by **J_Magic** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:27 am

We should take a punt on Joe Alexander. I still think he has a shot at a good career with the right coach (yeah, I know SVG has a tough rotation system already).

It can't hurt. He was a number 8 pick and has some raw talent there. Otis Smith...make it happen.

BigV1981 · Post #1412 » by **BigV1981** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:06 am

With Durant and Westbrook getting into arguments again could this be a chance to offer Dwight/Hedo for a Westbrook/Harden/Perkins maybe others? When these guys started arguing last season everyone started talking like they couldnt co-exist on the same team?

fendilim · Post #1413 » by **fendilim** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:48 am

I dont think Otis would be investing on a center until the Dwight Howard situation is settled, IMO.

Furinkazan · Post #1414 » by **Furinkazan** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:00 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Przybilla is looking for a team still too. He will never come here, but I would think Otis would have to be looking for a center even if he plans on dealing Dwight. You're not getting 2 centers back in any trade, so at some point, a center is going to be needed.

+1

but unfortunatelly Otis is not loking for one:/
...if we are still into lopez or bynum trades...these guys can get re-injured easly
and we may end up with Davis as a starting center...
its a shame we didnt go after chuck hayes...we could create all nba midget team

jadewbj · Post #1415 » by **jadewbj** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:14 pm

BigV1981 wrote:With Durant and Westbrook getting into arguments again could this be a chance to offer Dwight/Hedo for a Westbrook/Harden/Perkins maybe others? When these guys started arguing last season everyone started talking like they couldnt co-exist on the same team?

Forget that, lets put a 4 team deal together that brings us Westbrook and keeps dwight!

jadewbj · Post #1416 » by **jadewbj** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:17 pm

jadewbj wrote:
BigV1981 wrote:With Durant and Westbrook getting into arguments again could this be a chance to offer Dwight/Hedo for a Westbrook/Harden/Perkins maybe others? When these guys started arguing last season everyone started talking like they couldnt co-exist on the same team?

Forget that, lets put a 4 team deal together that brings us Westbrook and keeps dwight!

Hopefully Ewing has been in Howards ear about how tough it is to play under the NY scrutiny and press. He also has to see that the Nets with just him and Derron will not win it all. I also don't think the Nets owner is as willing to spend as Devos, since they are trying to get the dad a title before he goes.

J-Mezzy · Post #1417 » by **J-Mezzy** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:45 pm

The Suns suck let's make a run at Nash!

jadewbj · Post #1418 » by **jadewbj** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:47 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:The Suns suck let's make a run at Nash!

He is a veteran, and that is what we supposedly want.

The Magic Man · Post #1419 » by **The Magic Man** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:00 pm

Westbrook/Ibaka/Perkins for Dwight/Baby

Orl
pg:Westbrook,Nelson
sg:Jrich,Redick
sf:Turk,Qrich
pf:Ibaka,Anderson,Clark
c:Perkins,Orton

drsd · Post #1420 » by **drsd** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:17 pm

The Magic Man wrote:Westbrook/Ibaka/Perkins for Dwight/Baby

Orl
pg:Westbrook,Nelson
sg:Jrich,Redick
sf:Turk,Qrich
pf:Ibaka,Anderson,Clark
c:Perkins,Orton

The full Magic roster would be:
Westbrook/Nelson/Duhon/Hughes
Richardson-2/Redick/Wafer/Liggins
Turkoglu/Richardson-1
Ibaka/Anderson/Clark/Harper
Perkins/Orton

This is a good roster and is deep. GM Smith could then turn Duhon and Redick into a couple of combo bigs. A Darko Milicic type.

Then Orlando would be:
Westbrook/Nelson/Hughes
Richardson-2/Wafer/Liggins
Turkoglu/Richardson-1
Ibaka/Anderson/Clark/Harper
Perkins/Milicic/Orton

This is a very, very deep team. There are nine players who have regularly started on such a roster.

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