Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[TyCobb]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

[yosemiteben]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

At this point there's not a single player on the Lakers roster that I would trade MKG for.

[JDR720]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

The Charlotte Hornets RealGM Forum is the Un-Official MKG Love Circle of the World

[SWedd523]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

The Charlotte Hornets RealGM Forum is the Un-Official MKG Love Circle of the World

Or maybe they're like me and think its nuts to trade him and Zeller for Kemba's backup

[TyCobb]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

The Charlotte Hornets RealGM Forum is the Un-Official MKG Love Circle of the World

Did Kemba turn out to be pretty good? Interesting to see that people have Lin as the backup reserve. Maybe a lineup of Kemba - Lin - Stephenson - Williams - Jefferson would be too small though.

[HornetJail]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

The Charlotte Hornets RealGM Forum is the Un-Official MKG Love Circle of the World

Did Kemba turn out to be pretty good? Interesting to see that people have Lin as the backup reserve. Maybe a lineup of Kemba - Lin - Stephenson - Williams - Jefferson would be too small though.

Lin needs to be a sixth man like Jarrett Jack was for Golden State. And yes Kemba's turned out pretty damn good- much better than I ever anticipated. I thought he was destined to become Brandon Jennings after his rookie season.

[TyCobb]

The Charlotte Hornets RealGM Forum is the Un-Official MKG Love Circle of the World

Did Kemba turn out to be pretty good? Interesting to see that people have Lin as the backup reserve. Maybe a lineup of Kemba - Lin - Stephenson - Williams - Jefferson would be too small though.

Lin needs to be a sixth man like Jarrett Jack was for Golden State. And yes Kemba's turned out pretty damn good- much better than I ever anticipated. I thought he was destined to become Brandon Jennings after his rookie season.

Is his low FG% a product of his shot selection? I did see in the other thread that he looked much better shooting in the UCONN game.

If most of the league sees Lin as a 6th man... then woo... I'm in for a long rebuild with the Lakers. Personally I don't like Lin's game, or think he is the All Star that Lin only fans make him out to be, but I'm hoping he increases his value come trade deadline time.

[JDR720]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

The Charlotte Hornets RealGM Forum is the Un-Official MKG Love Circle of the World

Did Kemba turn out to be pretty good? Interesting to see that people have Lin as the backup reserve. Maybe a lineup of Kemba - Lin - Stephenson - Williams - Jefferson would be too small though.

Kemba is a good PG, but he is very streaky and shoots badly kinda like Brandon Jennings but not stupid

[yosemiteben]

I love Kemba, but if that FG% doesn't come up this season I'm going to be really frustrated. One thing that makes me optimistic are his averages during the Miami series - he shot 47% from the field and 50% from three.

Honestly I think Lance is going to be a godsend for Kemba. Finally someone else that can create for himself and others off the dribble.

[BeesWax]

Did Kemba turn out to be pretty good? Interesting to see that people have Lin as the backup reserve. Maybe a lineup of Kemba - Lin - Stephenson - Williams - Jefferson would be too small though.

Lin needs to be a sixth man like Jarrett Jack was for Golden State. And yes Kemba's turned out pretty damn good- much better than I ever anticipated. I thought he was destined to become Brandon Jennings after his rookie season.

Is his low FG% a product of his shot selection? I did see in the other thread that he looked much better shooting in the UCONN game.

If most of the league sees Lin as a 6th man... then woo... I'm in for a long rebuild with the Lakers. Personally I don't like Lin's game, or think he is the All Star that Lin only fans make him out to be, but I'm hoping he increases his value come trade deadline time.

The low FG% is a product of being the only guy on the court who can create for himself at the end of a shot clock. Adding Lance will help because defenses wont be able to collapse on Kemba at the end of the clock like they do now. When the clock ran down last season teams knew Kemba had to get the ball so they prevented him from getting clean looks.

[mrknowitall215]

I think Lance Stephenson's presence is going to make the basketball world garner a legit respect for Kemba as a player, once they see Kemba averaging more points with a higher PER and win shares than Stephenson

[HornetJail]

Did Kemba turn out to be pretty good? Interesting to see that people have Lin as the backup reserve. Maybe a lineup of Kemba - Lin - Stephenson - Williams - Jefferson would be too small though.

Lin needs to be a sixth man like Jarrett Jack was for Golden State. And yes Kemba's turned out pretty damn good- much better than I ever anticipated. I thought he was destined to become Brandon Jennings after his rookie season.

Is his low FG% a product of his shot selection? I did see in the other thread that he looked much better shooting in the UCONN game.

If most of the league sees Lin as a 6th man... then woo... I'm in for a long rebuild with the Lakers. Personally I don't like Lin's game, or think he is the All Star that Lin only fans make him out to be, but I'm hoping he increases his value come trade deadline time.

Everyone else has said it pretty well.

Lin is certainly either a high-end sixth man or a low-end starter capable of playing better and worse for long periods of time.

Kemba's low percentages were almost inexplicable last season but there was one thing that hurt him- an ankle injury in January. He'd been shooting 45/40 the month before and was looking like he'd sneak in as an all-star if the Bobcats won a few more games, but he sprained his ankle in January, missed a few weeks (his first games missed for injury since HS if I remember correctly) and shot like 35% the rest of the season. It was painful to watch him shoot because even the most perfect looks would go astray, yet he recognized it, and while he continued to shoot at the same rate, he found Big Al and other teammates for good looks consistently, for the first time in his career. Even when shots wouldn't fall the whole game, he'd still make them when they counted the most. Even if Kemba struggles for 47 minutes and is 3-15 from the field, he's the guy you want with the ball in the final minute. A lot of low-percentage shooters like JR Smith, Brandon Jennings, and others are dumb as rocks, but Kemba is actually quite a smart player and his low percentages come from never having a consistent wing scorer next to him. Introducing Lance to the team is going to be incredible for him, as long as Kemba can shake off the abysmal shooting slump he was in from February to April. He was great in the playoffs though. I value Kemba more highly than anyone else on the team right now- Big Al and Lance included, because I know what he's capable of. This season should showcase him very nicely, health permitting.

[TheKingofSting]

Looks like I was way off. Carry on.

At this point there's not a single player on the Lakers roster that I would trade MKG for.

Same here, I love that guy!

[Braggins]

Apparently there are some trade rumors involving us and Josh Smith. They don't seem like they are likely to be true at all but it is interesting. I would envision something like this:

Detroit gets:
Gerald Henderson - 6 mil
Cody Zeller - 4 mil
Gary Neal - 3.25 mil
2nd round pick

Charlotte gets:
Josh Smith - 13.5 mil

If Detroit would accept an offer like this I would be very intrigued if I was our front office. On paper we would be in a position to have the leagues best defensive and rebounding team while also having an improved offense from last year. I know most people hate Smith but I actually think from a pure skills standpoint he would fit with our team quite well. He isn't the shooter we'd like from our 4 spot but he can hit open looks from the 3 well enough to keep defenses honest and hover right above 30% if he keeps his volume reasonable. He is a very good rim protector and a good passer/playmaker from the high post which fits quite nicely with Al and his athleticism and defensive prowess fits very well with the rest of our roster. The perfect PF to fit with Al doesn't really exist outside of Anthony Davis but Smith gives us two of the three big things we need from our PF in a big way while being reasonable at the other thing we need (shooting). This would also open up room for us to resign CDR which is something we all want. Also, imagine what Kemba/Lance/MKG/Smith could do in transition. I think the big concerns would be the risk it would pose to our team chemistry and the length of his contract with the first being by far the biggest concern. It could be a massive risk to add Lance and Smith to the same team from a personality standpoint. I think on the court they could co exist because they both (Smith, for the most part) have been able to be very effective without taking a ton of shots and both are willing passers but a move like this could potentially cause our locker room to implode.

Kemba/Roberts/Pargo
Lance/CDR/Hairston
MKG/Taylor
Smith/Williams/Vonleh
Al/Biz

The potential of that lineup in the East is really quite high. I'm not sure if I'd want to risk going this route but part of me would really want to see if it could work out. We might already be poised to be the third seed in the East without taking such a gamble so it would be hard to pull the trigger. Does anyone else this could work or have any idea if there is anything to the trade rumors?

[HornetJail]

Apparently there are some trade rumors involving us and Josh Smith. They don't seem like they are likely to be true at all but it is interesting. I would envision something like this:

Detroit gets:
Gerald Henderson - 6 mil
Cody Zeller - 4 mil
Gary Neal - 3.25 mil
2nd round pick

Charlotte gets:
Josh Smith - 13.5 mil

If Detroit would accept an offer like this I would be very intrigued if I was our front office. On paper we would be in a position to have the leagues best defensive and rebounding team while also having an improved offense from last year. I know most people hate Smith but I actually think from a pure skills standpoint he would fit with our team quite well. He isn't the shooter we'd like from our 4 spot but he can hit open looks from the 3 well enough to keep defenses honest and hover right above 30% if he keeps his volume reasonable. He is a very good rim protector and a good passer/playmaker from the high post which fits quite nicely with Al and his athleticism and defensive prowess fits very well with the rest of our roster. The perfect PF to fit with Al doesn't really exist outside of Anthony Davis but Smith gives us two of the three big things we need from our PF in a big way while being reasonable at the other thing we need (shooting). This would also open up room for us to resign CDR which is something we all want. Also, imagine what Kemba/Lance/MKG/Smith could do in transition. I think the big concerns would be the risk it would pose to our team chemistry and the length of his contract with the first being by far the biggest concern. It could be a massive risk to add Lance and Smith to the same team from a personality standpoint. I think on the court they could co exist because they both (Smith, for the most part) have been able to be very effective without taking a ton of shots and both are willing passers but a move like this could potentially cause our locker room to implode.

Kemba/Roberts/Pargo
Lance/CDR/Hairston
MKG/Taylor
Smith/Williams/Vonleh
Al/Biz

The potential of that lineup in the East is really quite high. I'm not sure if I'd want to risk going this route but part of me would really want to see if it could work out. We might already be poised to be the third seed in the East without taking such a gamble so it would be hard to pull the trigger. Does anyone else this could work or have any idea if there is anything to the trade rumors?

Marvin, Neal, Taylor for Smith and a pair of 2nds would be my asking price. Wait till December when Marvin can be traded. I would trust Clifford to steer Smith in the right direction.

[JDR720]

Getting Smith could either be amazing......or it will be terrible, it depends on what we would be giving up (aka no MKG) and how coachable he will be.

[yosemiteben]

I do wonder if we gave Marvin a bigger contract to help facilitate trades for players with larger salaries.

Apparently Bledsoe is very much on the trade block. How much would folks be willing to give up to get him?

[JDR720]

I wouldn't trade for Bledsoe, we don't need a PG or SG and he wants to much money for us to keep him

[MasterIchiro]

No way am I taking on a big contract for a talent that isn't elite and doesn't improve our outside shooting. Josh Smith is a tough contract to move, one of the toughest in the game. The Pistons desperately want out of it. I don't think he's a good fit next to Drummond at all. I would insist on a 1st round pick attached to his contract because I get the feeling they're leaking our team name because they want to gain more leverage in negotiations with that GM over there in Sacramento. We're being used. So we should turn around and leak that we want a 1st even though we'd never get it.

[Braggins]

No way am I taking on a big contract for a talent that isn't elite and doesn't improve our outside shooting. Josh Smith is a tough contract to move, one of the toughest in the game. The Pistons desperately want out of it. I don't think he's a good fit next to Drummond at all. I would insist on a 1st round pick attached to his contract because I get the feeling they're leaking our team name because they want to gain more leverage in negotiations with that GM over there in Sacramento. We're being used. So we should turn around and leak that we want a 1st even though we'd never get it.

He doesnt improve our outside shooting but he also doesnt hurt it. He really isnt much worse than Marvin when he takes good shots and he is easily better than Zeller. He would improve us in about every other area. The deal I threw out has us basically giving up nothing and breaking even on cap (although it does tie that cap up for longer). I certainly wouldnt give up MKG or Vonleh or anything like that but if we could get him for players that no one really wants that dont fit our roster at all I think its worth consideration. Smith is one season removed from being better than anyone on our roster and being a 1st/2nd option on a good playoff team for multiple seasons.