Suns Offseason Thread 4: Where's Terrence Williams?

[AtheJ415]

As predicted by some here (and myself).

Kieff Morris will be traded.

You cant have a negative influence. You have to enter the season fresh and with everyone on the same page.

My targets.
- Zeller + pick(s)
- Porzingis (Suns to add Tucker perhaps)
- Vonleh
- Sullinger + other assets.
- Mirotic

I'd be happy with these, although not a huge Sullinger fan personally. Be prepared for the inevitable offers for 50 year old players by some on here though.

[batsmasher]

As predicted by some here (and myself).

Kieff Morris will be traded.

You cant have a negative influence. You have to enter the season fresh and with everyone on the same page.

My targets.
- Zeller + pick(s)
- Porzingis (Suns to add Tucker perhaps)
- Vonleh
- Sullinger + other assets.
- Mirotic

Damn, I didn't realise Kieff had this much value. Wait.... he doesn't.

I don't think any GM would touch him with a 10 foot pole unless we literally gave him away.

[TeamTragic]

Well there it's is! Bye bye markieff

@BurnsAndGambo: According to @Gambo987's sources, Markieff wants out. He wants nothing to do with the #Suns. Won't talk to players or staff. #NBA


And he won't talk to the other players. So unprofessional. Where's Gambos limo service. Get him out of here.

Do we really need this dude? Trade him for a shooter and/or future pick. People are really making a big deal about this and giving him more credit than he deserves.

He was a decent contract. That was it. Now we can move him and move on from both the Morris clowns. Fresh start

As predicted by some here (and myself).

Kieff Morris will be traded.

You cant have a negative influence. You have to enter the season fresh and with everyone on the same page.

My targets.
- Zeller + pick(s)
- Porzingis (Suns to add Tucker perhaps)
- Vonleh
- Sullinger + other assets.
- Mirotic

Damn, I didn't realise Kieff had this much value. Wait.... he doesn't.

I don't think any GM would touch him with a 10 foot pole unless we literally gave him away.

He has a decent contract and good production. That is pretty much what he brings to the table. There are plenty of dumb teams out there that value him

As predicted by some here (and myself).

Kieff Morris will be traded.

You cant have a negative influence. You have to enter the season fresh and with everyone on the same page.

My targets.
- Zeller + pick(s)
- Porzingis (Suns to add Tucker perhaps)
- Vonleh
- Sullinger + other assets.
- Mirotic

I'd be happy with these, although not a huge Sullinger fan personally. Be prepared for the inevitable offers for 50 year old players by some on here though.

INB4 Kieff for Ibaka

[AtheJ415]

As predicted by some here (and myself).

Kieff Morris will be traded.

You cant have a negative influence. You have to enter the season fresh and with everyone on the same page.

My targets.
- Zeller + pick(s)
- Porzingis (Suns to add Tucker perhaps)
- Vonleh
- Sullinger + other assets.
- Mirotic

Damn, I didn't realise Kieff had this much value. Wait.... he doesn't.

I don't think any GM would touch him with a 10 foot pole unless we literally gave him away.

Zeller was being actively shopped during the draft. Vonleh doesn't hold all that much value. Sullinger imo is drastically overrated on this board.

Porzingis and Mirotic both hold more value than Markieff, although if you look at Mirotic's numbers there isn't a lot of production to back that up.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Cody Zeller for Kieff could be good. They tried to trade Zeller instead of Vonleh but failed. How about Kieff to DET, Meeks to CHA, Zeller to PHX?

[RunDogGun]

Cody Zeller for Kieff could be good. They tried to trade Zeller instead of Vonleh but failed. How about Kieff to DET, Meeks to CHA, Zeller to PHX?

We can't trade Meeks until December.

[thamadkant]

Markieff Morris + Cleveland pick + 2017 Heat pick

can fetch a decent player above Markieff Morris... Mirotic perhaps...




I want Vonleh, he can be developed to be Ibaka-lite.

But most likely is Zeller.
The guy put up nice numbers in a slow system... check his stats and percentages.
I can imagine he can up those production in a faster pace.
He is also a good athlete.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Cody Zeller for Kieff could be good. They tried to trade Zeller instead of Vonleh but failed. How about Kieff to DET, Meeks to CHA, Zeller to PHX?

We can't trade Meeks until December.

Jodie Meeks is on Detroit?

[batsmasher]

Cody Zeller for Kieff could be good. They tried to trade Zeller instead of Vonleh but failed. How about Kieff to DET, Meeks to CHA, Zeller to PHX?

We can't trade Meeks until December.

Lol uhhh Jodie Meeks isn't Sonny Weems FYI.

[RunDogGun]

Cody Zeller for Kieff could be good. They tried to trade Zeller instead of Vonleh but failed. How about Kieff to DET, Meeks to CHA, Zeller to PHX?

We can't trade Meeks until December.

Jodie Meeks is on Detroit?

Oops sorry, doing too many things at once. Thought Weems.

Never mind, I'm too tired. I think I need a drink.

[RunDogGun]

Cody Zeller for Kieff could be good. They tried to trade Zeller instead of Vonleh but failed. How about Kieff to DET, Meeks to CHA, Zeller to PHX?

We can't trade Meeks until December.

Lol uhhh Jodie Meeks isn't Sonny Weems FYI.

Yep, my mistake.

[letsgosuns]

Markieff Morris + Cleveland pick + 2017 Heat pick

can fetch a decent player above Markieff Morris... Mirotic perhaps...




I want Vonleh, he can be developed to be Ibaka-lite.

But most likely is Zeller.
The guy put up nice numbers in a slow system... check his stats and percentages.
I can imagine he can up those production in a faster pace.
He is also a good athlete.

I would hold onto the two Miami picks. A top 7 protected pick and a completely unprotected pick are the kinds of assets that can be used to acquire a superstar. Picks like that are very highly regarded around the league.

[saintEscaton]

As predicted by some here (and myself).

Kieff Morris will be traded.

You cant have a negative influence. You have to enter the season fresh and with everyone on the same page.

My targets.
- Zeller + pick(s)
- Porzingis (Suns to add Tucker perhaps)
- Vonleh
- Sullinger + other assets.
- Mirotic

Damn, I didn't realise Kieff had this much value. Wait.... he doesn't.

I don't think any GM would touch him with a 10 foot pole unless we literally gave him away.

Yup. Lets be realsitic here. Imma go out on a limb and say Porzinis(just drafted/neither Kieff nor Tucker can help the Knicks win now),Vonleh(newly acquired promising stud in a rebuilding situation) and Mirotic( a legit star Stretch 4 in the making who just needs more playing time) are off limits. That leaves Sully and Zeller(assuming you're talking about Tyler) as acquirable targets but the Celtics are in the same position as the Bulls in that they have too many PFs/more than enough frontcourt depth to go around and like us want to consolidate their assets for a prized return instead of making a lateral move without much payoff. Kieff's trade value is at rockbottom and we wouldn't have made out like bandits even he didn't have unresolved legal issues/character concerns

[RunDogGun]

I don't see why Chi would want Keef even it was for Mirotic.

[saintEscaton]

I don't see why Chi would want Keef even it was for Mirotic.

Because some posters think that's fair value because Mirotic has a streaky rookie season and is relatively "unproven". Chicago might counter-offer with Gibson

[RunDogGun]

I don't see why Chi would want Keef even it was for Mirotic.

Because some posters think that's fair value because Mirotic has a streaky rookie season and is relatively "unproven". Chicago might counter-offer with Gibson

Wouldn't they rather have someone to play the five or three, since they drafted Portis?

Side note, anyone thinking Teletovic was told before he signed that he might start if Morris becomes a huge baby?

[NTB]

Leuer time.

[Qwigglez]

I remember NotTraxxe mentioning we had a deal in place with Chicago, and I bet it revolved around Kieff and Mirotic. Well I'm hoping Mirotic, but most likely Taj Gibson. I think a deal with them is the most likely trade outcome if one were to occur.

[lilfishi22]

I'm not a big fan of Sully but he would be a good Kieff replacement and he still has potential to get better.

[NTB]

If we can get Taj, it is definitely a success.