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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1401 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:12 am

Mavrelous wrote:A drop coverage big without shooting range and big injury risk, I'm sad, I want Luka to win, this deal doesn't help...


I don't believe we can seriously evaluate someone on a tanking team. There're different priorities. D for sure doesn't play a big role. Even with injuries, those players are getting shut down by design. It's a risk but they really didn't give anything important away except 2031 FRP. Knecht didn't fit with Luka, because he doesn't play D and they needed a C desperately. He's very young, might get better.
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Post#1402 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:13 am

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Mavrelous wrote:A drop coverage big without shooting range and big injury risk, I'm sad, I want Luka to win, this deal doesn't help...


I don't believe we can seriously evaluate someone on a tanking team. There're different priorities. D for sure doesn't play a big role. Even with injuries, those players are getting shut down by design. It's a risk but they really didn't give anything important away except 2031 FRP. Knecht didn't fit with Luka, because he doesn't play D.

If I'm paying this price, I'm not speculating.
Knect and 31 1st are their only remaining assets.
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Post#1403 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:21 am

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Mavrelous wrote:A drop coverage big without shooting range and big injury risk, I'm sad, I want Luka to win, this deal doesn't help...


I don't believe we can seriously evaluate someone on a tanking team. There're different priorities. D for sure doesn't play a big role. Even with injuries, those players are getting shut down by design. It's a risk but they really didn't give anything important away except 2031 FRP. Knecht didn't fit with Luka, because he doesn't play D.

If I'm paying this price, I'm not speculating.
Knect and 31 1st are their only remaining assets.


For this year. If you look at their balance sheet, you will see it's as clear as it gets. With Nico's help, even Luka will be on a great deal. They will have a lot of cap space, when LeBron retires.
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Post#1404 » by Michaellam1987 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 8:27 am

LAL has given up most of the tradable asset, but their position is not bad. Assuming LeBron play out the contact, and retire after the 2025-26 season. In that year's offseason, what they have on book is Luka's last year player option; Reaves's last year player option, already resigned up Mark William (assuming), 12M contract of Vanderbilt, and tons of cap space. Not a bad situation to operate in that summer.
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Post#1405 » by dirkules_41 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:21 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:LAL has given up most of the tradable asset, but their position is not bad. Assuming LeBron play out the contact, and retire after the 2025-26 season. In that year's offseason, what they have on book is Luka's last year player option; Reaves's last year player option, already resigned up Mark William (assuming), 12M contract of Vanderbilt, and tons of cap space. Not a bad situation to operate in that summer.

Yep they'll have Luka on a cheap contract and between Luka and LA lifestyle they'll get tons of FAs to line up to sign there. They basically have nothing of value left to trade though, the smart thing would be to trade LeBron now and get assets back for him but obviously you're not gonna do that and blow up all the positive PR, they're not as dumb as Nico is.
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Post#1406 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 9:34 am

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Michaellam1987 wrote:LAL has given up most of the tradable asset, but their position is not bad. Assuming LeBron play out the contact, and retire after the 2025-26 season. In that year's offseason, what they have on book is Luka's last year player option; Reaves's last year player option, already resigned up Mark William (assuming), 12M contract of Vanderbilt, and tons of cap space. Not a bad situation to operate in that summer.

Yep they'll have Luka on a cheap contract and between Luka and LA lifestyle they'll get tons of FAs to line up to sign there. They basically have nothing of value left to trade though, the smart thing would be to trade LeBron now and get assets back for him but obviously you're not gonna do that and blow up all the positive PR, they're not as dumb as Nico is.

I guess they still have Reaves, but he's pretty good and on great contract, unlikely they move him.

They did one more thing with Williams trade, they free additional spot, so they can add someone on buyout market.
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Post#1407 » by Darren » Thu Feb 6, 2025 10:34 am

The Mavs has to keep Lively in any KD pursuit. Wemby, OKC, Boston, now LAL, Memphis are teams to beat. You need 2-3 shotblocker in starting lineup against 7-5 monster and block everything from perimeter to the paint. Lively is needed. Gafford, while is absolutely great, is not as long as Lively.
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Post#1408 » by Darren » Thu Feb 6, 2025 10:36 am

Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.
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Post#1409 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:21 am

Darren wrote:Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.


KD is staying in Phoenix.
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Post#1410 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:24 am

The beef with Luka and Nico is personal. So I expect all other trades of Nico to have some semblance of logic. The Luka trade is an outlier in a sense that I feel Nico did it on purpose. Nico is not stupid. But he has the makings of a snake.
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Post#1411 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:26 am

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Darren wrote:Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.


KD is staying in Phoenix.

8 hours till the deadline, PJ/Gafford/Klay/3 1sts and PHX would be dumb to say no, I'm not counting this out...
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Post#1412 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:28 am

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Darren wrote:Right now, it's left with the Mavs and Rockets now. I think the Mavs could beat Houston's offer unless Sengun and Smith are both included.


KD is staying in Phoenix.

8 hours till the deadline, PJ/Gafford/Klay/3 1sts and PHX would be dumb to say no, I'm not counting this out...


I hope not, that would virtually mean end of basketball in Dallas in few years time or before, if 1 of those 3 fragile players got injured. They should just trade Gafford and Klay for some solid creator, I admit I don't know, who that could be. Maybe Lamelo Ball is available.
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Post#1413 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:41 am

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KD is staying in Phoenix.

8 hours till the deadline, PJ/Gafford/Klay/3 1sts and PHX would be dumb to say no, I'm not counting this out...


I hope not, that would virtually mean end of basketball in Dallas in few years time or before, if 1 of those 3 fragile players got injured. They should just trade Gafford and Klay for some solid creator, I admit I don't know, who that could be. Maybe Lamelo Ball is available.

Nico's MO is chasing names, and not basketball fit, he just lucked into few great fits in PJ and Lively.
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Post#1414 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:44 am

KD has an injury history and is 35 or 36 years old. But, if you have an opportunity to land him, you put your name in the hat regardless of what it is. He's still great now and Nico doesn't seem to look past 4 years. He'll be out of Dallas by then IMO.
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Post#1415 » by MassimoPayne » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:48 am

I mean we are **** in few years anyway. So why not **** it up completely and go for KD? Honestly.
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Post#1416 » by Bob8 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:03 pm

arkuo wrote:KD has an injury history and is 35 or 36 years old. But, if you have an opportunity to land him, you put your name in the hat regardless of what it is. He's still great now and Nico doesn't seem to look past 4 years. He'll be out of Dallas by then IMO.


It's questionable, if 3 picks would be enough for Suns, Mavs 25 would be worthless in that case, likewise with LA 29, so they might want Lively, are you prepared to give him away?
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Post#1417 » by Archx » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:22 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mavrelous wrote:8 hours till the deadline, PJ/Gafford/Klay/3 1sts and PHX would be dumb to say no, I'm not counting this out...


I hope not, that would virtually mean end of basketball in Dallas in few years time or before, if 1 of those 3 fragile players got injured. They should just trade Gafford and Klay for some solid creator, I admit I don't know, who that could be. Maybe Lamelo Ball is available.

Nico's MO is chasing names, and not basketball fit, he just lucked into few great fits in PJ and Lively.


Yeah it's wild he wanted Kuzma but completely lucked into PJ and Gafford by almost pure coincidence because Kuzma is the same tier idiot as Nico. And Lively was almost an obvious choice to any NBA scout at that time. Everyone projected him to go to Mavs anyway.
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Post#1418 » by daoneandonly » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:01 pm

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I hope not, that would virtually mean end of basketball in Dallas in few years time or before, if 1 of those 3 fragile players got injured. They should just trade Gafford and Klay for some solid creator, I admit I don't know, who that could be. Maybe Lamelo Ball is available.

Nico's MO is chasing names, and not basketball fit, he just lucked into few great fits in PJ and Lively.


Yeah it's wild he wanted Kuzma but completely lucked into PJ and Gafford by almost pure coincidence because Kuzma is the same tier idiot as Nico. And Lively was almost an obvious choice to any NBA scout at that time. Everyone projected him to go to Mavs anyway.


Indeed, people forget that he targeted Kuzma, and that PJ was just pure luck. Not only that, but all accounts were Hornets would have done PJ for Josh Green. But this idiot thought a pretty much-unprotected pick, and WIlliams was the deal after trading a pick swap for WIlliams a few months earlier.

Not to mention, he gave up a second in a deal where his team took Davis Bertans and the whole Brunson fiasco. Luka kept his job safe, and this is how he repaid him, his ego probably thought eh made the Mavs

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Post#1419 » by Maverick41 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:06 pm

Any chance we can get in on Schroder? I know he was bad at GS but he was good in BRK and is a good PnR guy with the ball in his hands. Not sure if there's a trade because of salary matching but if he gets bought out, he can a really good addition. Would think the Jazz wont keep him. Also pesky on D.
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Post#1420 » by daoneandonly » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:11 pm

Maverick41 wrote:Any chance we can get in on Schroder? I know he was bad at GS but he was good in BRK and is a good PnR guy with the ball in his hands. Not sure if there's a trade because of salary matching but if he gets bought out, he can a really good addition. Would think the Jazz wont keep him. Also pesky on D.


More of a chance now than ever. He and Maxi hate each other, but latter is not in D anymore. Shroder and Dirk also have beef, but clearly Nico doesnt care about Mavs faithful
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