Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[jwill535]

While we dont know exactly how they have handled it with Drew, to act shocked that an ownership or coach is pursuing a job that is currently filled is pretty disingenuous. It happens all the time, does it become public, no, but the fact it there have been several occasions when coaches are being hired well before the current one is fired.

[Ruzious]

Regardless if Kidd ends up being a great FO exec and coach this is terrible. This is definitely not the way you want to run a business in terms of hiring and firing people. IMO this is just going to push great future candidates for coaching and FO positions away from us if this is how the owners are going to go about it.

Welcome to the real world. This is standard operating procedure when you're looking to replace someone. And why would anyone think Drew and company would keep their jobs in Milwaukee? He did a terrible job. This is what happens after you're terrible at your job.

[Matches Malone]

While we dont know exactly how they have handled it with Drew, to act shocked that an ownership or coach is pursuing a job that is currently filled is pretty disingenuous. It happens all the time, does it become public, no, but the fact it there have been several occasions when coaches are being hired well before the current one is fired.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Danny Ferry and the Hawks owners did basically the same thing to Larry Drew when interviewing Budenholzer during the playoffs while Drew was still under contract with the Hawks.

I don't think that's the biggest issue here.

The fact it went public just made it messy.

So, is Drew just getting a bad shake again or maybe there's a reason why he's getting canned again.

[MetroDrugUnit]

My feelings are that we can do better than Kidd and likely without having to give up a draft pick. The flip side is that I like the recent buzz around this organization (New Owners, Drafting Parker, New Coach???, HOBO) These are all positives to the layman and even if they all don't work out I think this puts us in a better spot for public support for arena funding and that should be the real end game right now.

[MickeyDavis]

Danny Ferry and the Hawks owners did basically the same thing to Larry Drew when interviewing Budenholzer during the playoffs while Drew was still under contract with the Hawks.

I don't think that's the biggest issue here.

The fact it went public just made it messy.

So, is Drew just getting a bad shake again or maybe there's a reason why he's getting canned again.

I don't think L&E put any thought into Drew and what kind of coach he is. I think they wanted someone new from the beginning. As soon as ownership change was official they did the rounds doing interviews, talking about the arena, getting ready for the draft, etc... Now that the draft is over they are starting to make their changes, for better or worse.

[SidTheMan4]

I love how ESPN just rips the Bucks for going after someone elses coach. It was ok when the Clippers did it to Boston. It was fine when Minnesota went after Joerger from Memphis. But what the big media hypes don't like is small market Milwaukee going after the New York market Kidd. Whether you like him or not that plays into it. This is exactly the stuff we wanted from a new owner. I could care less what these reporters think. I hope we get him as long as a 1st round pick not involved.

[Cold Crush 24]

So say Hammond is next. Do they bring in a GM and say we already picked your coach? If Hammond wasn't aware of this from the beginning I don't like it at all. Hopefully this is a lesson learned for Lasry. I know he doesn't know how to run a team just yet but hopefully he learns to take a step back soon.

[KidA24]

Cannot believe this is happening this way.

Let's hire a mediocre whiny little bitch to be our head coach, who storms out of his current job because other first time coaches are getting paid more than him.

Let alone all the reports last season about how he didn't do anything as a coach.

Let alone that now, no one will want to GM for the Bucks, because who wants to be the GM when the head coach has more power than you do? (See Karl, George).

All the goodwill from the last 6 weeks just got used up in 48 hours.

[Enrique]

Danny Ferry and the Hawks owners did basically the same thing to Larry Drew when interviewing Budenholzer during the playoffs while Drew was still under contract with the Hawks.

I don't think that's the biggest issue here.

The fact it went public just made it messy.

So, is Drew just getting a bad shake again or maybe there's a reason why he's getting canned again.

Yeah, when Atlanta did the same thing to Drew last year I don't remember Woj getting all indignant about it. He just doesn't like Kidd. People seem surprised by this and they shouldn't. If you've listened to any interviews they've done since taking over its obvious that Drew's days were numbered. I don't think the owners should have let Drew introduce Jabari at the press conference though.

I don't know why anyone thought that the owners were going to hire someone to run the organization and then get out of the way. They said before the draft that they would decide the pick.
It's been pretty obvious from the beginning that they were meddlers.

[LedZepp007]

I mean, it's pretty clear that Kidd will take over as GM/coach if L&E like the way things go. I'm still hoping that things fall apart. But, yeah, it would seem as though L&E we're planning on hiring a new coach this whole time. But they've been super cold blooded about it

[SupremeHustle]

The SOB piece on this is very informative. Nice work.

[steger_3434]

Honeymoon is over. Most of the board now hates are new owners lol

[smauss]

Guess the honeymoon is over for the BB's!

[htr]

I cant see why we can't get Ersan for Morrow in this coach trade. Seems like Brooklyn wins that part, albeit on a longer deal.

[BucksBrew]

Spoiler:

I'm surprised by the amount of people getting so worked up over sending a 2nd round pick as compensation for a guy who could become an absolute beast of a head coach in this league. A 2nd round pick is nothing and it means absolutely nothing to us in the grand scheme of things now that we have Parker and Giannis. What does mean something, and is imperative to this franchise, is to be relieved of Larry Drew. Now. Yesterday. Months ago. If it takes sending an Inglis or O'Bryant to Brooklyn for the Owner's to get their guy, no problem.

Jason Kidd is likely younger and more experienced in the ways of NBA basketball than any of the upcoming assistants out there. He played for 3 franchises and spent long amounts of time in both the Eastern and Western conferences. He is one of the greatest players of all time. All Time. He is an NBA champion. He defines leadership. He might have been the best floor general and might have had the best court-vision of all-time. He made the playoffs 17 straight seasons..He took a bunch of former All-stars and 2 HoF's with massive egos, all of whom are past their primes to the 2nd round of the playoffs after starting the season 10-21. Sure he was an easy joke around the league early on but he obviously figured something out after a couple of months. That's usually what happens. There's also the chance that he would be more accepted and respected by his players in Milwaukee, who grew up watching him dominate the league, as opposed to coaching a bunch of people he **** on for years as a player. You think Paul Pierce, KG, Deron Williams, or Jason Terry wanted to hear what was wrong with their games and what they needed to fix from Kidd? I think Kidd could do absolute wonders for Wolters, Knight, and Giannis specifically.

I get that people think he is a **** person because he has one DWI and a couple of domestic abuse incidents brought on by a jealous, desperate, lonely, money grubbing crazy of an ex-wife. But maybe he got home from a 10 day road trip at 3am in 2001 and she drunkenly attacked him with bull and physicality, causing him to slap her across the face. Maybe he had a few too many beers one night and was texting at the wrong time and got pulled over.

All I'm saying is I would bet money that a few posters on this board have a DWI. I bet those people are fine human beings who one night made a poor decision, were caught, and suffered the consequences. The domestic abuse thing is much worse though it is pretty widely known that after the 2001 incident, all further incidents reported were exaggerations by his wife. I obviously don't condone what happened in 2001, but no one here knows what actually went on that night. What was said. What was done by his wife.

To brand the guy a **** person with no capability of being a successful leader off the court for an NBA franchise because of a few incidents that happened long ago in his personal life to me, is stupid. There's no denying that he has the potential to be an absolute game changer for our franchise, regardless of whether you believe he is an **** or not.

Again, a 2nd round pick is nothing if it means the immediate removal of Larry Drew and the addition of Jason Kidd's coaching potential.

Couldn't have said it better

[machu46]

I cant see why we can't get Ersan for Morrow in this coach trade. Seems like Brooklyn wins that part, albeit on a longer deal.

Because players cannot be included.

[Matches Malone]

Danny Ferry and the Hawks owners did basically the same thing to Larry Drew when interviewing Budenholzer during the playoffs while Drew was still under contract with the Hawks.

I don't think that's the biggest issue here.

The fact it went public just made it messy.

So, is Drew just getting a bad shake again or maybe there's a reason why he's getting canned again.

[BucksBrew]

I cant see why we can't get Ersan for Morrow in this coach trade. Seems like Brooklyn wins that part, albeit on a longer deal.

Cant trade players as part of a coaching deal.

Last year the Celtics were prohibited from sending Garnett (I believe or anyone else) to the Clippers because they tried to work a combo deal with Rivers.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/24/nba-wronging-kevin-garnett-by-preventing-celtics-clippers-trade/

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