Official Speculation Thread (Pt XII, Mods Close)

[rcklsscognition]

I hope Otis called up NOH and is trying to send Kamen to GSW. They need a center bad

I think this deal marinates until NBA sells the Hornets this week/next (they have 1 buyer in final stages of purchase) then maybe we can get Kaman out of there and sent to GSW. I think Ariza is a possibility if we do end up sending Anderson.

[ADRajX]

Lol Ellis line: 10-27 21 pts, 8 assts, 4 to... he won't be getting that freedom in Orlando that's for sure

He also won't be playing SG here (it'll definitely be PG... his more natural position, so he isn't undersized at the 2), and he won't have to worry about competing with Curry for handling the ball in the back-court and worrying about when he can create for others and himself

[shadrock]

Ok everyone who's going crazy about his plus minus a major reason for that is because he played or a bad team. Playing with Dwight and a winning team would change that plus minus and give him more confidence because he would get a whole lot of more wins here

Not true. Its a known fact that the warriors are about 6 points worse per 100 possessions when monta is on the court. He is a candidate for worst defender in the league, and the only reason he gets steals is because he makes stupid gambles which result in points for the other team.

Dont get me wrong, I think we should trade for Monta because it would help us keep Dwight, but he is by no means a dominant player. He could quite possibly have the carmelo affect on our franchise.

[thelead]

For the record, I do not think Otis can pull this off. I would be ecstatic if he proves me wrong but rarely does.

oh yeah same here... but I'm setting myself for disappointment lol... I'm living in the moment of this "news"... it's been so long since we've heard something like this... it took us 12 parts to get something mentioned worthwhile ... so F it... I'm riding this storm all the way

I'm not even going to think about it honestly. I would rather be pleasantly surprised than pissed off.

[ChildishGambino]

man this is a LOOOOONG shot but if Otis can somehow god willing pull this off...might save his job....might change minds around here about otis....although we should of drafted Ellis when we had the chance back in the day....

[eyriq]

Ok, fine, show me an argument for Ellis over Anderson based on stats. It isn't really a challenge, I actually think it would be a good project and since I go back and forth on Ellis myself it could be helpful.

I do not think it is about that. remember that MBA paper you posted?

stretch 4s thrives off of our system. Ilyasova for example would post at least 17-18 per in magic. even if our rook could post 13 and that would be enough to contend.

Ellis is exactly what we need, this is true. I'm not sure that Dwight increases the value of a stretch 4 to the point we are seeing with Anderson but I see where you are coming from. Ellis would be a super charged '08 Hedo or '10 Carter, much like Anderson is a super charged '09 Lewis. Hypothetically can we really say what is more important? Is a super charged '08 Hedo or '10 Carter really better than a super charged '09 Lewis + Nelson/Redick? Ugh. If we get Ellis without giving up Anderson my face will split open from smiling. If we give up Anderson/Redick/Nelson for Ellis I will cautiously cheer because I think it may just improve our chances at keeping Dwight, but I do not think it helps us competitively this year, unless we bring in Lee too.

[rcklsscognition]

Ok everyone who's going crazy about his plus minus a major reason for that is because he played or a bad team. Playing with Dwight and a winning team would change that plus minus and give him more confidence because he would get a whole lot of more wins here

Not true. Its a known fact that the warriors are about 6 points worse per 100 possessions when monta is on the court. He is a candidate for worst defender in the league, and the only reason he gets steals is because he makes stupid gambles which result in points for the other team.

Dont get me wrong, I think we should trade for Monta because it would help us keep Dwight, but he is by no means a dominant player. He could quite possibly have the carmelo affect on our franchise.

I'm bookmarking this page for future reference.

[RickB-Orlando]

I can't take it. At this point, I'm going to go mess around on the 360 for a couple of hours, and pretend that when I check back after Midnight (in other words, March 1) we'll have Ellis in a trade that doesn't gut us.

[ADRajX]

Take lee off their hands as well

he's still only 28 or 29 years old right? or is he in his 30s? still a very good player... on a bad contract... can put up all-star stats when he's on... but if it means we can get Ellis, I'd gladly take on Lee's contract

[Reverse_Angle]

man this is a LOOOOONG shot but if Otis can somehow god willing pull this off...might save his job....might change minds around here about otis....although we should of drafted Ellis when we had the chance back in the day....

i appreciate the fact that you keep finding amazingly hilarious gifs.

[ADRajX]

If Otis gets Ellis (whether or not it's with Lee), and Dwight stays... do we make a statue of Otis?

[toquito]

Lol Ellis line: 10-27 21 pts, 8 assts, 4 to... he won't be getting that freedom in Orlando that's for sure

He also won't be playing SG here (it'll definitely be PG... his more natural position, so he isn't undersized at the 2), and he won't have to worry about competing with Curry for handling the ball in the back-court and worrying about when he can create for others and himself

Hmmm what would we do with Nelson than lol

[ADRajX]

For the record, I do not think Otis can pull this off. I would be ecstatic if he proves me wrong but rarely does.

oh yeah same here... but I'm setting myself for disappointment lol... I'm living in the moment of this "news"... it's been so long since we've heard something like this... it took us 12 parts to get something mentioned worthwhile ... so F it... I'm riding this storm all the way

I'm not even going to think about it honestly. I would rather be pleasantly surprised than pissed off.

you have a stronger will power than I do

[rcklsscognition]

Take lee off their hands as well

he's still only 28 or 29 years old right? or is he in his 30s? still a very good player... on a bad contract... can put up all-star stats when he's on... but if it means we can get Ellis, I'd gladly take on Lee's contract

Lee had 22 and 12 tonight.

[OrlandO]

I wasn't getting my hopes up when I saw Rudolph's tweet, but when I saw Broussard tweet it, that excited me a little. As much as we can talk bad about that guy, Broussard is usually right. I just hope he's not just piggybacking off Rudolph.

Don't think he's piggybacking because he put out a lengthy article shortly after the nearly simultaneous Rudolph/Broussard tweets. He had to have talked to his sources before Rudolph tweeted it in order to prepare the article. I think the source talked to both and requested them to wait until 9pm to post it, so there wouldn't be any favoritism. It's like the embargo companies set for tech blogs when they're about to post a review of an unreleased product.

[BadMofoPimp]

If they do make a trade, I bet it happens AFTER the Thunder game. Ryno will be needed in that game. Hopefully, he has a great game.

[D12VCMagic]

I'm not a big fan of Monta Ellis. I think he'd average around 15 ppg or so in our offense. Don't want to trade Anderson for him, UNLESS Dwight promised to not opt out.

[ChildishGambino]

If Otis gets Ellis (whether or not it's with Lee), and Dwight stays... do we make a statue of Otis?

maybe not a statue....probably a bust

[arsenal6106]

If they do make a trade, I bet it happens AFTER the Thunder game. Ryno will be needed in that game. Hopefully, he has a great game.

I hope im wrong, but I don't think this will be a trade that will go down in the next few days. I feel like this will drag out till the 15th, especially if it is going to be a multiple team trade.

[Reverse_Angle]

Ok, fine, show me an argument for Ellis over Anderson based on stats. It isn't really a challenge, I actually think it would be a good project and since I go back and forth on Ellis myself it could be helpful.

I do not think it is about that. remember that MBA paper you posted?

stretch 4s thrives off of our system. Ilyasova for example would post at least 17-18 per in magic. even if our rook could post 13 and that would be enough to contend.

Ellis is exactly what we need, this is true. I'm not sure that Dwight increases the value of a stretch 4 to the point we are seeing with Anderson but I see where you are coming from. Ellis would be a super charged '08 Hedo or '10 Carter, much like Anderson is a super charged '09 Lewis. Hypothetically can we really say what is more important? Is a super charged '08 Hedo or '10 Carter really better than a super charged '09 Lewis + Nelson/Redick? Ugh. If we get Ellis without giving up Anderson my face will split open from smiling. If we give up Anderson/Redick/Nelson for Ellis I will cautiously cheer because I think it may just improve our chances at keeping Dwight, but I do not think it helps us competitively this year, unless we bring in Lee too.

not a single point i do not agree here. i just think we have to do better than lee, nor we need his skill set. we need an offensive rebounding stud who hits open shots and never misses defensive assignments.