Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Chanel Bomber]

That would give the Knicks 2 of the top 5 players in the league, with an additional max slot to build the team with another top 15 player or add some depth.

It's nowhere near the Melo trade.

I think there's a scenario where this ends in a way that's similar to the Melo trade.

Amar'e was an aging All-NBA player with health concerns. But he was considered one of the best players in the league at the time. Not on KD's level obviously, but he was All-NBA second team when he signed with the Knicks. He was younger than KD too.

I think we forget how good Melo was. AD is more efficient obviously, but on the other hand he doesn't have Melo's playmaking skills. I don't view AD as a top 5 player in the league. He doesn't have the consistent impact that Curry, Harden, KD, LeBron, Kawhi and I would argue Jokic, Lillard and Embiid have. I honestly believe you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think AD's a top 5 player. I'm not sure how he fits with Durant either. Sure they fit, but they won't make each other better at all.

Also the Knicks also had capspace after stretching Billups back then, and used it on Tyson Chandler who was a major free agent signing.

I respectfully think you're underestimating the risk behind the KD-AD strategy. I could pay dividends but it could also backfire worse than the Amar'e/Melo/Chandler moves. Especially when you consider KD's volatile character.

While there is a possibility, compare AD to Amare and KD to Melo.

AD is a far better all around player with less health concerns than Amare had, while Melo is the better comp with KD. KD seems to be a somewhat better facilitator, not that he's LeBron or Pippen or Bird or anything. And he seems to be more efficient and a less dependent on being set up by a PG. Not that Melo wasn't a big time scorer.
And if we assume Kyrie is coming, it solves the PG issue that neither Melo or Amare had, except for a year of old Kidd. AD is a better passer than Amare was, where Amare was just a finisher.

To be clear, I agree that they would be a lot better than Melo/Amar'e (at least in the short term). These two simply could not play together. I just don't see championship like some of our fellow Knicks fans do, let alone a dynasty.

[Thugger HBC]

This is Anthony Davis complete injury chart. Notice one outlier.....most of these games he returned to action, and you will notice that by looking at the dates.

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

Clyde, the list wasn't even accurate. You got missed games on there that aren't injury related. Quite a few of those injuries he actually returned back to the game or a worst played the very next one.

Some of those games were rest days. You really gonna blow a vessel when you see players on load management.

The fact of the matter is that injuries are part of the game. At one point in time Steph Curry was injury prone by fan perspective.

Then he goes out and have consecutive 70+ game in seasons of play...…..just like Davis has done within the last couple years.


By your standard Frank and Dennis should be injury prone.

[Day_Man]

Tacko has a crazy brother named Wacko who will act as his agent and personal concierge.

sounds about right..

[Clyde_Style]

This is Anthony Davis complete injury chart. Notice one outlier.....most of these games he returned to action, and you will notice that by looking at the dates.

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

When have the Knicks ever assembled 2 of the top 5 players in the league and 3 of the top 15 players in the league on the same team?

I think it would definitely be the first time.

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

[DowNY]

We can trade Lance, Smith, Jordan and Hezonja both sign and trade, both Dallas picks and 2 our unprotected picks for Davis... we have the leverage if AD wants us, cuz they will lose him for nothing just one year later. If they wont like that we wait until 2020. And sign Bojan with the rest of the cap (or MLE)... Meanwhile we send Smith and Hezonja or Lance in a sign and trade for Rubio.

Rubio / Ntilikina / Allen
Barrett / Trier / Jenkins
Bojan / Dotson / Parsons
Durant / Knox / Carmelo
Davis / Robinson / Vonleh

Rubio isn’t coming man. Gotta stop the fed fish.
Maintaining Jordan’s bird rights is a horrible idea.
Same with Mario.
Lance is ok to keep for the next month because his guarantee isn’t until August but if we need space for a 2nd max guy, it’s over for him.

[DowNY]

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

When have the Knicks ever assembled 2 of the top 5 players in the league and 3 of the top 15 players in the league on the same team?

I think it would definitely be the first time.

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

And if you’re wrong and we win a title?

[GONYK]

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

When have the Knicks ever assembled 2 of the top 5 players in the league and 3 of the top 15 players in the league on the same team?

I think it would definitely be the first time.

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

Kyrie is just the whipped cream on top. KD and AD are franchise level players who are dominant on both ends.

What good will Mitch and RJ being healthy do if they can't lead us into the playoffs anytime soon?

And if they do in the relatively near future, we'd have to pay them in the same neighborhood as these proven elite two way players?

[Clyde_Style]

This is Anthony Davis complete injury chart. Notice one outlier.....most of these games he returned to action, and you will notice that by looking at the dates.

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

Clyde, the list wasn't even accurate. You got missed games on there that aren't injury related. Quite a few of those injuries he actually returned back to the game or a worst played the very next one.

Some of those games were rest days. You really gonna blow a vessel when you see players on load management.

The fact of the matter is that injuries are part of the game. At one point in time Steph Curry was injury prone by fan perspective.

Then he goes out and have consecutive 70+ game in seasons of play...…..just like Davis has done within the last couple years.


By your standard Frank and Dennis should be injury prone.

I'd be able to overlook some of this if the three players being bandied about were not all suspect. Excuse me if KD being on the sidelines right now bothers me or that AD's injury list seems like more than window dressing to me or that Kyrie's list of injuries are concerning.

If it was just one of them, then I'd say you're able to take greater risks, but all three put together suggests to me you will never dodge the injury bullet if you max cat this specific trio. I'm not risk adverse, but this is common sense to me to not want to go all in on three guys where it seems almost guaranteed you will see lots of missed games collectively. It is not a good bet IMO and certainly mitigates against expectations I'd have of of all three being able to stay healthy through 100 games to win a championship

[Jeff Van Gully]

Have you seen the rest of the east? Barring a tragic free agent period for them, Sixers, Raptors and Bucks are still better than the above team

Nah. Only Bucks messing with that. And Bucks need to somehow keep Middleton and Brogdon.

Toronto is only kind of in that convo if they keep Kawhi. I love him there, but I’d be shocked if he stayed.

Sixers already not on those teams’ level and may not keep Harris OR Butler.

Sixers keep their 4 Id say they're better for the upcoming year at least, the Raptors probably won't matter as Kawhi is likely gone. But still that's two teams with more chemistry than the aforementioned team and that's ignoring the big bad warrior goliath waiting in the west.

I hear you. Nothing's a given. But that’s 2 top-5 players and another star. The talent concentration would be immense. To me, only Toronto and Milwaukee have a transformative player. Knicks would be the only team with 2 AND big time help. That’s Batman, Robin, Nightwing, Alfred... lol

[Chanel Bomber]

I don't get it, what do you mean stop looking for saviors? You mean through free agenc and trades? Because that's literrally what people are praying for in the draft, a savior. Doncic, Zion, etc.

What's funny is that if the player being discussed is Luka Doncic, how many people would have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at a trade to land him? The thing is people want some fantasy of a 10 year dynasty that is going to compete for a loooong period of time and thats why they want youth but they ignore the entire process that comes with it. 26 year olds are now looked at as geezers and 19 year olds are prized possessions but people don't want to be real about the possibility of not even being in position to put a good enough team around those 19 year old until they are basically 24/25 years of age and no longer on their rookie scale contract.

It was only a couple years ago that AD was considered as one of the best young players to build a franchise around and now he's not even a top 10 player anymore? Crazy

Every championship team since the early 80s with the exception of the 2004 Pistons had a homegrown player as their foundationial piece. Building a team around a bunch of mercenaries for me is like building on quicksand. If you want to go against 40 years of evidence, more power to you.

I don't see AD as a guy who can lead a team to a championship anyway, for whatever it's worth. He's a fringe top 10 player to me, in the 8 to 12 range. And again, I'm not against signing him as a free agent, but I think trading for him would be a huge mistake that will set back this franchise another 5 to 10 years.

This means nothing. We are in a new era when it comes to the league. The way players are demanding trades and forming alliances is a new trend for the league. Players aren't willing to waste their careers waiting for owners and front offices to build teams around them and are forming alliances on their own. That's not something the Knicks are looking to exploit that's something all teams are looking to exploit.

None if this homegrown stuff will matter when the team is playing good, nobody will care. Just like the Raptors dont care whether or not Kawhi is homegrown, the things he's doing for their franchise is far greater than any homegrown player has ever done for them. Ask them if they would give up everybody else on their roster just to keep Kawhi there. I can promise you nobody will even remember the names of our young players when we are balling in the playoffs.

Yet the Raptors are down 2-0 in the ECF and Kawhi could bounce next month.

I believe there's an intangible value in having homegrown players. They go the extra mile for their team. They identify with their team. There is pride. Golden State has the splash brothers and Draymond. Cleveland had Kyrie and LeBron. The Spurs had Duncan, Manu and Tony. The Heat had Wade. The Mavs had Dirk. The Lakers had Kobe. The Celtics had Pierce. The Bulls had MJ and Scottie. The Rockets had Hakeem. The Pistons had Isiah. The Lakers had Magic. The Celtics had Bird. Players who were all drafted by their team. This is not a coincidence, this is a pattern. Look at the up-and-coming teams in each conference. Denver has Jokic and Milwaukee has Giannis.

It's not that I don't want to see my team playing good, it's that the best way to build a legitimately great team is through the draft. You can't escape it.

[Clyde_Style]

When have the Knicks ever assembled 2 of the top 5 players in the league and 3 of the top 15 players in the league on the same team?

I think it would definitely be the first time.

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

Kyrie is just the whipped cream on top. KD and AD are franchise level players who are dominant on both ends.

What good will Mitch and RJ being healthy do if they can't lead us into the playoffs anytime soon?

And if they do in the relatively near future, we'd have to pay them in the same neighborhood as these proven elite two way players?

You're assuming I want to contend immediately. Just because I have a stack of bills in my wallet doesn't mean I'm going to rush out and spend it all.

The underlying assumption in this thread is THIS IS IT, our shot at glory, take it or leave it. I'm not buying that line. I'm willing to see if Mitch and RJ? pan out alongside a FA signing or two, but gutting the team to get AD is just the same old Knicks to me and I'm sick of it.

[Thugger HBC]

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

Clyde, the list wasn't even accurate. You got missed games on there that aren't injury related. Quite a few of those injuries he actually returned back to the game or a worst played the very next one.

Some of those games were rest days. You really gonna blow a vessel when you see players on load management.

The fact of the matter is that injuries are part of the game. At one point in time Steph Curry was injury prone by fan perspective.

Then he goes out and have consecutive 70+ game in seasons of play...…..just like Davis has done within the last couple years.


By your standard Frank and Dennis should be injury prone.

I'd be able to overlook some of this if the three players being bandied about were not all suspect. Excuse me if KD being on the sidelines right now bothers me or that AD's injury list seems like more than window dressing to me or that Kyrie's list of injuries are concerning.

If it was just one of them, then I'd say you're able to take greater risks, but all three put together suggests to me you will never dodge the injury bullet if you max cat this specific trio. I'm not risk adverse, but this is common sense to me to not want to go all in on three guys where it seems almost guaranteed you will see lots of missed games collectively. It is not a good bet IMO and certainly mitigates against expectations I'd have of of all three being able to stay healthy through 100 games to win a championship

I don't have an interest in this mix, but it isn't based on their injury history, but actually fit and desire of why they're coming here.

Players go through injuries, that's really a poor excuse. Steph Curry was injury prone at the same age frame as Davis. I'm sure you wouldn't turn him down as a free agent. He's injured now btw has been for a minute. Maybe in NY he sits out.

[alphad0gz]

I really couldn't think of anyone who was kind of straight line without a 3.

Thunder Dan Marjerle (sp?) was kind of straight line. He also wasn't a star and was also a big 3 point shooter, at least for his era.

Melo, Lebron, Pierce, for starters. Wade didn't have "wiggle" but he had a good handle and crossover. Guy shot under30% percent for his career and seemed to do OK. There's been many over the years. BTW, he had no trouble getting to the rim (and finishing) even w/o "wiggle". There wasn't a single player that stopped him and he played against some of the best defenders. I really believe he helped Zion more than is talked about.

Good examples. I figure they existed but was looking for someone who had examples.
BTW, I'm not knocking RJ; I'm just discussing what seems to be "the book" on him, which I'm wary of, because I feel like a few takes become a bible on a player, especially before drafted, that aren't entirely true.

You can knock him all you want. What bugs me is when these new age gurus like AWRY think they can get all they need from a spreadsheet. Analytics are important, but so is context and the old "eye test".

[Clyde_Style]

When have the Knicks ever assembled 2 of the top 5 players in the league and 3 of the top 15 players in the league on the same team?

I think it would definitely be the first time.

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

And if you’re wrong and we win a title?

I'll raise a glass just like the rest of you. I have no pride about being wrong. I just have a strong conviction about not repeating the mistakes of the past which I think may happen.

[stuporman]

It amazes me it how many fans still believe pundits 'sourced rumors' are fact. Keep fooling yourselves....

[Thugger HBC]

Even though I don't care for this particular mix, I cant knock the rationale. Those three placed on the same team should have a minimum baseline of title contention. Isn't a title what any fan hopes for?

Who on this team has a ceiling of Davis? None, but I don't mind watching the rebuild take it's course even though in my mind I know the likelihood of any of these guys reaching his level is slim to none.

It's called being a "fan of opinion", and I admit I am guilty of it sometimes. I admit my guilt.

[Context]

AD is not injury prone? Surely you jest

And KD is currently sitting out the playoffs right before he is supposed to ride in on his horse and save us. The guy is entering his 30s so current injury aside, yes, the probabilities of KD being injured in the future is automatically increased

All three put together = very little chance of ever seeing them all at full strength to win a ring

No, they arent injury prone. Doesn't mean they can't get injured. Any player can. Dennis Smith JR and Frank are both injured too.

Anthony Davis Injury History 2013-2017



and 2017-2019


03/25/2019 Back
03/20/2019 Personal
03/08/2019 Back Spasms
03/02/2019 Rest
02/14/2019 Shoulder
01/19/2019 Left Index Finger
01/12/2019 Ankle
01/01/2019 Illness
12/20/2018 Illness
11/24/2018 Right Hip Strain
11/04/2018 Right Elbow Sprain
11/01/2018 Elbow Sprain
10/27/2018 Elbow
03/07/2018 Sore Ankle
01/08/2018 Sore Ankle
12/11/2017 Sore Groin
12/01/2017 Strained Left Groin
11/18/2017 Concussion
10/25/2017 Left Knee Swelling
10/17/2017 Illness

Nah, he isn't injury prone. Come on Thugger, seriously?

Thanks for posting this- this sh*t is crazy I'm sorry- I dont care if he went back in the game thug- please dont give this dude 40 million a year

[Context]

Through 2017, I provided a more complete list before your post.

If you think it's nothing then so be it. I think this fan base has for the most part set its sights on buying a super team and I think you'll end up regretting it dearly.

It isn't the first time and apparently it won't be the last.

If you really think these guys are low risk injury wise as a set of three players in a single package, yes I'm mystified at such faith in what to my eyes seems like a completely dodgy scenario. If they do it, then I hope you're right and I'm wrong

When have the Knicks ever assembled 2 of the top 5 players in the league and 3 of the top 15 players in the league on the same team?

I think it would definitely be the first time.

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

I agree with most of what you said and I cant even argue the rest...We have to be very careful here that we dont wipe away all of our
progress in one off- season...

[Jalen Bluntson]

What good will it do us if the three of them can't play together for full seasons and deep into the playoffs?

I swear to god this is history repeating itself and you're all burying your heads in the sand if you think the Knicks are not going to get stuck with jinxed injury plagued contracts again.

And, no, Kyrie is not a top 15 player. That was his destiny, but he is not reliable as a player or as a teammate and his value to a franchise is not close to being a top 15 player any longer. He's a head case I would prefer not to have in NYC. I don't care if he is gifted with a sick handle and sometimes can take over games. That doesn't mean he'll be a positive influence on the club. You think he will take directions from KD? Nah, he's another diva we don't need to have around

Kyrie is just the whipped cream on top. KD and AD are franchise level players who are dominant on both ends.

What good will Mitch and RJ being healthy do if they can't lead us into the playoffs anytime soon?

And if they do in the relatively near future, we'd have to pay them in the same neighborhood as these proven elite two way players?

You're assuming I want to contend immediately. Just because I have a stack of bills in my wallet doesn't mean I'm going to rush out and spend it all.

The underlying assumption in this thread is THIS IS IT, our shot at glory, take it or leave it. I'm not buying that line. I'm willing to see if Mitch and RJ? pan out alongside a FA signing or two, but gutting the team to get AD is just the same old Knicks to me and I'm sick of it.

So...keep the kids...add FAs is cool with you?. If they keep the kids and MAX KD/Kyrie...are you cool with that?

I hear you about gutting the team. I want Mitch to retire here and have his number in the rafter!!! I wouldn't trip on a smaller deal for more talent though. I'm not crazy about Kyrie either way but...I wouldn't be mad if we signed him with KD. I also don't care for KD being 31 but...I'm not afraid that he'll fall off a cliff.

I would also be down with not signing anyone as well. I mean...I want Klay and Kawhi but...that's not happening.

I just hope Perry doesn't mess this up. I want to witness a title some day. The 20 year spiral in the other direction has been brutal.

[Clyde_Style]

Kyrie is just the whipped cream on top. KD and AD are franchise level players who are dominant on both ends.

What good will Mitch and RJ being healthy do if they can't lead us into the playoffs anytime soon?

And if they do in the relatively near future, we'd have to pay them in the same neighborhood as these proven elite two way players?

You're assuming I want to contend immediately. Just because I have a stack of bills in my wallet doesn't mean I'm going to rush out and spend it all.

The underlying assumption in this thread is THIS IS IT, our shot at glory, take it or leave it. I'm not buying that line. I'm willing to see if Mitch and RJ? pan out alongside a FA signing or two, but gutting the team to get AD is just the same old Knicks to me and I'm sick of it.

So...keep the kids...add FAs is cool with you?. If they keep the kids and MAX KD/Kyrie...are you cool with that?

I hear you about gutting the team. I want Mitch to retire here and have his number in the rafter!!! I wouldn't trip on a smaller deal for more talent though. I'm not crazy about Kyrie either way but...I wouldn't be mad if we signed him with KD. I also don't care for KD being 31 but...I'm not afraid that he'll fall off a cliff.

I would also be down with not signing anyone as well. I mean...I want Klay and Kawhi but...that's not happening.

I just hope Perry doesn't mess this up. I want to witness a title some day. The 20 year spiral in the other direction has been brutal.

NO. I've been outspoken today that I don't want Kyrie near this team.

I'm fine with signing KD.

I'm not fine with trading away picks and Mitch for AD.

I'm down with adding a max cat like KD and continuing to build, because if he has 4-5 years in the tank that is more than enough time to be in contention mid-way through his contract with a mix of signings, drafted players and good pick-ups (which this club is perfectly capable of executing now).

And, yes, I agree, we could just hold off one more season and keep our powder dry. I've waited this long, so I'm not on the spend or die bandwagon.