NBA Trade Thread #2

[MisterRoy]

I will do that Detroit trade if I get a 1st. Or just trade Lauri for a 1st.

Yeah, add a pick to it.


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[BullsFTW]

CHI Gets: Caris Levert & Jarrett Allen
BRK Gets: Zach LaVine & Wendell Carter Jr

[gobullschi]

We get a vet point guard, a good starting PF and we don't have to back up the Brinks truck for Lauri. It helps Detroit get Blake off their books early and someone in Lauri THEY can pay.

I know Blakes contract is pricey, but it's only for this season and next. I bet we can get Blake to resign for less than Lauris contract.


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Your D-Rose fandom isn’t making you think clearly. What’s the benefit of adding these two players on the roster? Do they make the Bulls a contender? I’d rather gamble on a 23 year old.

Derrick Rose is a solid player who will probably finish his career in Chicago once his contract in Detroit expires. I’d rather pay Lauri 20 million a year than pay 37 million a year to a 32 year old (often injured) Blake Griffin. Detroit would need to add a 1st for us to take on all that money.

Dude nobody makes us a contender. We can't compete with the Nets and Lakers of the leagues. But, I bet we make the playoffs with that trade and it would be a better product than what we have now.

Put out a lineup of Rose > Coby > Lavine > Blake > Wendell and we might do OK.

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The Bulls window of contention opens in 2-4 years when guys like LeBron, Durant, etc are 35+ years old. You don't throw away a 23 year old power forward that looks significantly better this season, for 2 aging vets that win you just enough games to miss out on a top player in a stacked 2021 draft class.

It's short sited - and likely because you love D-Rose. I get it. I wish he was here too.

[TheSuzerain]

Otto to the Celtics for their TPE and minor draft assets at the deadline is one to keep in mind. The Celtics TPE is the perfect size to absorb Otto, and I do feel like he can fill a nice role for them.

Kind of a boring deal but sensible.

[Chi town]

Otto to the Celtics for their TPE and minor draft assets at the deadline is one to keep in mind. The Celtics TPE is the perfect size to absorb Otto, and I do feel like he can fill a nice role for them.

Kind of a boring deal but sensible.

Maybe OPJ will be in shape by the deadline.

He may be injured though.

[Nate3carp]

Otto to the Celtics for their TPE and minor draft assets at the deadline is one to keep in mind. The Celtics TPE is the perfect size to absorb Otto, and I do feel like he can fill a nice role for them.

Kind of a boring deal but sensible.

I think this deal makes a lot of sense. I didn’t look up the exact salary but I’m sure the Celtics would have to send some salary back to stay under the hard cap. There’s no way they are more than Otto’s salary under it.

[TheSuzerain]

Otto to the Celtics for their TPE and minor draft assets at the deadline is one to keep in mind. The Celtics TPE is the perfect size to absorb Otto, and I do feel like he can fill a nice role for them.

Kind of a boring deal but sensible.

I think this deal makes a lot of sense. I didn’t look up the exact salary but I’m sure the Celtics would have to send some salary back to stay under the hard cap. There’s no way they are more than Otto’s salary under it.

You're right. Celtics would have to send back/dump about $7 million in salary to absorb Otto and stay below that hard cap (assuming they make no other moves that add/remove salary).

It's doable but cumbersome. They'd have to cut Javonte Green and trade Teague/Carsen Edwards/Ojeleye.

But then they'd have:

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Otto
Theis or Tristan Thompson

Marcus Smart as 6th man with some other young guys on the bench. If Otto presumably was playing at his best, that's a real good looking group.

[ZOMG]

It's amazing how hard it is for people to accept that Markkanen is not going anywhere. This thing about him as a likely trade piece is just a fan narrative that's taken on a life of its own.

Get ready for 5 more years of Lauri once he signs his new deal.

[sco]

It's amazing how hard it is for people to accept that Markkanen is not going anywhere. This thing about him as a likely trade piece is just a fan narrative that's taken on a life of its own.

Get ready for 5 more years of Lauri once he signs his new deal.

Let's say the Bulls have a terrible record up through the deadline and Lauri is able to continue his production and stay healthy through then. I could easily imagine a scenario where the FO says...we need to make changes, and resigning for $20M a year makes less sense than getting a pick in the late teens back and enough cap space to make 2 big offseason moves.

[Nate3carp]

Otto to the Celtics for their TPE and minor draft assets at the deadline is one to keep in mind. The Celtics TPE is the perfect size to absorb Otto, and I do feel like he can fill a nice role for them.

Kind of a boring deal but sensible.

I think this deal makes a lot of sense. I didn’t look up the exact salary but I’m sure the Celtics would have to send some salary back to stay under the hard cap. There’s no way they are more than Otto’s salary under it.

You're right. Celtics would have to send back/dump about $7 million in salary to absorb Otto and stay below that hard cap (assuming they make no other moves that add/remove salary).

It's doable but cumbersome. They'd have to cut Javonte Green and trade Teague/Carsen Edwards/Ojeleye.

But then they'd have:

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Otto
Theis or Tristan Thompson

Marcus Smart as 6th man with some other young guys on the bench. If Otto presumably was playing at his best, that's a real good looking group.

It looks like Nesmith and Langford make exactly the amount that Boston would be over the cap as well. So, it could be a trade of Otto to Boston for Langford/Nesmith (or them routed elsewhere for draft picks). It is kind of crazy how perfectly Otto fits into that trade exception. It's almost like they had Charlotte sign Hayward for that exact amount to create it for him.

[Andi Obst]

Let's say the Bulls have a terrible record up through the deadline and Lauri is able to continue his production and stay healthy through then. I could easily imagine a scenario where the FO says...we need to make changes, and resigning for $20M a year makes less sense than getting a pick in the late teens back and enough cap space to make 2 big offseason moves.

If Lauri keeps up this kind of production (doubt it) and stays relatively healthy (doubt it) then why would you throw him away like that? Big offseason moves? Outside of Kawhi, who is very clearly not coming, there is nobody out there who you really want to pay that kind of money. Like I said, I have my doubts with Lauri and I would absolutely be open to trading him, but it seems like some people have already written him off no matter what he does...that's weird to me.

[sco]

Let's say the Bulls have a terrible record up through the deadline and Lauri is able to continue his production and stay healthy through then. I could easily imagine a scenario where the FO says...we need to make changes, and resigning for $20M a year makes less sense than getting a pick in the late teens back and enough cap space to make 2 big offseason moves.

If Lauri keeps up this kind of production (doubt it) and stays relatively healthy (doubt it) then why would you throw him away like that? Big offseason moves? Outside of Kawhi, who is very clearly not coming, there is nobody out there who you really want to pay that kind of money. Like I said, I have my doubts with Lauri and I would absolutely be open to trading him, but it seems like some people have already written him off no matter what he does...that's weird to me.

My point is predicated on the fact that we are still terrible despite his improved play. IMO in that situation, it would be clear that Lauri (and everyone else, but Lauri first because of his contract) should be traded to allow the FO to reboot.

[Andi Obst]

My point is predicated on the fact that we are still terrible despite his improved play. IMO in that situation, it would be clear that Lauri (and everyone else, but Lauri first because of his contract) should be traded to allow the FO to reboot.

This is a bad team and it was always going to be a bad team. I don't know why that would influence the decision on Lauri's future. If he's worth keeping around, you keep him around. Especially because capspace becomes far less important if the FO indeed decides to "reboot".

[pipfan]

I like how Lauri has looked so far. He clearly has talent. I think we keep him, white and Williams and dump everyone else (unless Carter's last game is a sign of things to come)

[MisterRoy]

Your D-Rose fandom isn’t making you think clearly. What’s the benefit of adding these two players on the roster? Do they make the Bulls a contender? I’d rather gamble on a 23 year old.

Derrick Rose is a solid player who will probably finish his career in Chicago once his contract in Detroit expires. I’d rather pay Lauri 20 million a year than pay 37 million a year to a 32 year old (often injured) Blake Griffin. Detroit would need to add a 1st for us to take on all that money.

Dude nobody makes us a contender. We can't compete with the Nets and Lakers of the leagues. But, I bet we make the playoffs with that trade and it would be a better product than what we have now.

Put out a lineup of Rose > Coby > Lavine > Blake > Wendell and we might do OK.

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The Bulls window of contention opens in 2-4 years when guys like LeBron, Durant, etc are 35+ years old. You don't throw away a 23 year old power forward that looks significantly better this season, for 2 aging vets that win you just enough games to miss out on a top player in a stacked 2021 draft class.

It's short sited - and likely because you love D-Rose. I get it. I wish he was here too.

I think you and I have different views on Lauri, and that's OK.


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[TheSuzerain]

I think this deal makes a lot of sense. I didn’t look up the exact salary but I’m sure the Celtics would have to send some salary back to stay under the hard cap. There’s no way they are more than Otto’s salary under it.

You're right. Celtics would have to send back/dump about $7 million in salary to absorb Otto and stay below that hard cap (assuming they make no other moves that add/remove salary).

It's doable but cumbersome. They'd have to cut Javonte Green and trade Teague/Carsen Edwards/Ojeleye.

But then they'd have:

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Otto
Theis or Tristan Thompson

Marcus Smart as 6th man with some other young guys on the bench. If Otto presumably was playing at his best, that's a real good looking group.

It looks like Nesmith and Langford make exactly the amount that Boston would be over the cap as well. So, it could be a trade of Otto to Boston for Langford/Nesmith (or them routed elsewhere for draft picks). It is kind of crazy how perfectly Otto fits into that trade exception. It's almost like they had Charlotte sign Hayward for that exact amount to create it for him.

True, but I think Boston would be reticent to trade those guys.

[Chi town]

Wonder if AK will be part of this Harden trade as a 3rd or 4th team.

I’d love a Lavine for Jaylen Brown.

[Andi Obst]

Wonder if AK will be part of this Harden trade as a 3rd or 4th team.

I’d love a Lavine for Jaylen Brown.

Why wouldn‘t Houston just take Jaylen?

[Grodoboldo]

I will do that Detroit trade if I get a 1st. Or just trade Lauri for a 1st.

As much as I'd like a 1st for Lauri, I find it difficult to believe someone would give up a pick for a rental and the privilege to pay him 20mil per year.
I think the best we could do is a struggling player still on the rookie scale. I still say NAW would be a perfect candidate for a Lauri trade, I'm just not sure if NO would do it.

[cedric76]

I want otto in a magic uniform but i can't see any deal possible because of his contract

Prob not, but Otto/Gafford for Fournier, Aminu, Ennis and Bamba works, and I'd do that deal.

That would be too much to give away for Otto, I think we ll go after him hard this summer