Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants)

[bisme37]

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[exculpatory]

“We will soon be up to at least 1/2 million new cases per day in the USA.
Breakthrough Omicron infections are rising among the fully vaccinated population, including some of those who have had a third booster shot.
However, Omicron causes MILDER SYMPTOMS in those people, some of whom have no symptoms at all.
Furthermore, 80-90% of ICU-requiring Covid patients are unvaccinated.
(These last 2 points are always conveniently left out by the despicable/ignorant media and individuals spewing disinformation about Covid.)
Getting boosted or indeed primarily vaccinated (INCLUDING those who have survived a bout of Covid) remain the best and smartest steps you can take to protect yourself and those around you - aside from masking and distancing indoors and when appropriate outdoors.
Vaccination has saved close to 1 million lives to date in the USA.”

[watsonthedragon]

Tested positive yesterday on the same day I was scheduled for my booster. Just feels like a cold for me luckily. I figured it would happen soon enough (and surprisingly not sooner) since I commute into Manhattan for work.

[ddb]

REMEMBER...VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".

983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths

Yet they claim..100% Safe And Effective

[exculpatory]

Take your old/tired/dangerously ignorant **** somewhere else, you disinformation-spewing worthless scum bag.
The VAST VAST decrease in mortality & SEVERITY of disease consequent to the use of these miraculous vaccines DWARFS beyond description the rare adverse effects which occur.
Scum of the earth unvaccinated & anti-mask morons like yourself are the primary reasons for the spread of the virus to the more vulnerable, & enhanced transmission begets enhanced replication begets enhanced mutation which has resulted & will continue to result in the evolution of more evasive variants.
You & your ilk are truly the worst humanity has to offer.
Get your ivermectin & HQ ready.
Omicron is coming your way, mother ****.

[coach mang]

OXFORD STUDY - 1 in 100 Vaccinated Individuals Were Admitted to Hospital or Died with Arrhythmia During Study Period

"Of the 38,615,491 vaccinated individuals included in our study, 385,508 (1.0%) were admitted to hospital with or died from cardiac arrhythmia at any time in the study period (either before or after vaccination); 86,754 (0.2%) of these occurred in the 1-28 days after any dose of vaccine. Of those who were admitted or died 39,897 (10.3%) had a SARS-CoV-2 positive test, with 29,694 (7.7%) having a positive test before vaccination. There were 7,795 deaths with cardiac arrhythmia recorded as the cause of death (1,108 had a SARS-CoV-2 positive test)."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0


for a breakdown of this study:

https://jamescintolo.substack.com/p/new-bombshell-myocarditis-study-out?r=xgj7l&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

heres what cintolo recommends to reduce waxxine induced myocarditis:

"1. Individuals under 40 (mainly males) should get Pfizer instead of Moderna

2. Individuals under 40 (mainly males) should have doses from primary series spread apart 3 months or more if they do receive Moderna

3. Considering that many individuals 40 and under are healthy and have a low risk of experiencing serious side effects from COVID-19 infection, boosters should be selectively given. Not simply given to all males 40 and under

4. We need to look at what other nations are doing"

[exculpatory]

https://dgalerts.docguide.com/study-investigates-association-between-sars-cov-2-mrna-vaccination-and-myocarditis-or?overlay=3&nl_ref=newsletter&pk_campaign=newsletter&nl_eventid=96629&nl_campaignid=3641&pw_siteID=25&ncov_site=covid-19&MemberID=312855700

However, researchers led by Anders Husby, Imperial College London, London, UK, noted that the absolute rate of myocarditis or myopericarditis after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination was low, even in younger age groups.

“In addition, the clinical outcomes after myocarditis or myopericarditis events were predominantly mild, providing evidence to support the overall safety of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines,” the researchers remarked, adding that “the benefits of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination should be taken into account when interpreting these rare adverse effects.”

In addition, the researchers noted that clinical outcomes among vaccinated people with myocarditis or myopericarditis were predominantly mild, with no readmissions, diagnoses of heart failure, or deaths among people with myocarditis or myopericarditis occurring within 28 days of mRNA-1273 vaccination.

And more data:

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/964211

Adolescents and adults younger than age 21 who develop myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination frequently have abnormal findings on cardiac MRI (cMRI) but most have a mild clinical course with rapid resolution of symptoms, a new study concludes.

"This study supports what we've been seeing. People identified and treated early and appropriately for the VERY RARE complication of COVID-19 vaccine-related myocarditis typically experienced only mild cases and short recovery times," American Heart Association (AHA) President Donald M. Lloyd-Jones, MD, said in a podcast.

"Overwhelmingly, the data continue to indicate the benefits of COVID-19 vaccine far outweigh any very rare risks of adverse events from the vaccine, including myocarditis," Lloyd-Jones added.

The study was published online today in the journal Circulation.


These data suggest that most cases of suspected COVID-19 vaccine-related myocarditis in people younger than 21 are mild and resolve quickly," corresponding author Dongngan Truong, MD, Division of Pediatric Cardiology, University of Utah and Primary Children’s Hospital, Salt Lake City, said in a statement.

"We were very happy to see that type of recovery. However, we are awaiting further studies to better understand the long-term outcomes of patients who have had COVID-19 vaccination-related myocarditis. We also need to study the risk factors and mechanisms for this rare complication," Truong added.

Lloyd-Jones said these findings support the AHA's position that COVID-19 vaccines are "safe, highly effective, and fundamental to saving lives, protecting our families and communities against COVID-19 and ending the pandemic."


People should not post material about which they have no insight.

These observations warrant F/U data collection - nothing more.

[ddb]

Take your old/tired/dangerously ignorant **** somewhere else, you disinformation-spewing worthless scum bag.
The VAST VAST decrease in mortality & SEVERITY of disease consequent to the use of these miraculous vaccines DWARFS beyond description the rare adverse effects which occur.
Scum of the earth unvaccinated & anti-mask morons like yourself are the primary reasons for the spread of the virus to the more vulnerable, & enhanced transmission begets enhanced replication begets enhanced mutation which has resulted & will continue to result in the evolution of more evasive variants.
You & your ilk are truly the worst humanity has to offer.
Get your ivermectin & HQ ready.
Omicron is coming your way, mother ****.

Wow. that was mean. wife and 5 year old son had headache, cough, low grade temperature for a couple days over the holiday. we were secluded in the mountains away from people so it didn't matter. I felt tired and weak for a few days. little cough too. all back to 100% already. back home now. I'm guessing it was the winter of death we escaped.

[theman]

Watch on YouTube

[ddb]

Ironic how as soon as boosters started being administered, omicron boomed. Now the more boosters the more omicron.

[theman]

Watching you guys get in trouble for my post is an early Christmas treat

Don't stir up trouble. -- Baiting.
This is an Unofficial Warning.

~ Parl

I'm not stirring up trouble, I thought it was kind of unfair that they got chastised and I didn't. But now I don't want to be chastised for my joke about it

Whatever you do don't call a democratic a democrat or you will be banned for life (even though they will say it is for 60 days).

[Andrew McCeltic]

Ironic how as soon as boosters started being administered, omicron boomed. Now the more boosters the more omicron.

Are you trolling or does a dog understand more about cause and effect than you do? Treats are right there, just put your paw on the lever

[exculpatory]

Take your old/tired/dangerously ignorant **** somewhere else, you disinformation-spewing worthless scum bag.
The VAST VAST decrease in mortality & SEVERITY of disease consequent to the use of these miraculous vaccines DWARFS beyond description the rare adverse effects which occur.
Scum of the earth unvaccinated & anti-mask morons like yourself are the primary reasons for the spread of the virus to the more vulnerable, & enhanced transmission begets enhanced replication begets enhanced mutation which has resulted & will continue to result in the evolution of more evasive variants.
You & your ilk are truly the worst humanity has to offer.
Get your ivermectin & HQ ready.
Omicron is coming your way, mother ****.

Wow. that was mean. Wife and 5 year old son had headache, cough, low grade temperature for a couple days over the holiday. We were secluded in the mountains away from people so it didn't matter. I felt tired and weak for a few days. Little cough too. all back to 100% already. back home now. I'm guessing it was the winter of death we escaped.

All your post demonstrated was the following:
1. You & your family were incredibly lucky having mild cases the second time around. God even protects morons sometimes, DDB.
2. Thank goodness you did not have a chance to infect others. There are still ~1500 people who are dying every day - the vast majority of them unvaccinated & a much smaller number of whom are vaccinated & in a vulnerable risk group (in conjunction with ~230K new cases every day). The vast majority of the vaccinated & vulnerable who become infected suffer mild cases because of the miracle of these beyond overwhelmingly safe vaccines.
3. Nothing you anecdotally reported changes 1 word of what I have posted countless times in these threads (included my recent summary above) - supported by real medical science & in agreement with 99% of the smartest epidemiologists, ID docs, & virologists on the planet.
4. Your comment also serves to further emphasize how **** ignorant, stupid, callous & selfish you are.

In a few words - you are a disgrace to humanity & **** you to kingdom come.

[theman]

Ironic how as soon as boosters started being administered, omicron boomed. Now the more boosters the more omicron.

Wait until everyone starts testing and all the asymptomatic people start testing positive.

As Dr. Campbell pointed out Omicron is actually the best thing to happen since Trump got the vaccine pushed through the FDA in record time. With Omicron (should that be capitalized?) being far less lethal it should bring us closer to herd immunity. Honestly if omicron and later variants are no worse than a cold (and I don't like having a cold) who cares? We should be able to go back to normal.

[exculpatory]

Ironic how as soon as boosters started being administered, omicron boomed. Now the more boosters the more omicron.

Are you trolling or does a dog understand more about cause and effect than you do? Treats are right there, just put your paw on the lever

It is almost impossible for someone to be that stupid.

[theman]

REMEMBER...VAERS is underreported by a factor of "4 to 5".

983,756 Adverse Events
108,572 Hospitalizations
107,860 Urgent Care
12,317 Bell's Palsy
10,429 Heart Attacks
20,560 Myocarditis
34,615 Permanently Disabled
20,622 Deaths

Yet they claim..100% Safe And Effective

I don't think "they" ever made that claim, but you could be talking about a different they.

The VAST VAST decrease in mortality & SEVERITY of disease consequent to the use of these miraculous vaccines DWARFS beyond description the rare adverse effects which occur.

Thank God we had a president who took extraordinary measures to get it through the FDA.

Omicron is coming your way, mother ****.

All indications are omicron is far far less lethal than the other variants.

Anyhow I have always thought this sums up vaccines pretty well:

Watch on YouTube

[Parliament10]

The Animosity on this Thread, is Really getting out of hand.
For or Against, you people need to be more Cordial.

I think that we have to consider Removing this Thread.
We don't have time to Police this Free-for-All.


I'm going to Temporarily Lock it. So that we don't have to Ban people.
And discuss this thread further, with other Mods.

~ Parl

[Parliament10]

Unlocked


This Thread is a Courtesy.
Not many other Sports Boards have a COVID thread.

So, Don't Make the Mods Police this Thread.

~ Parl

[exculpatory]

From this point on, my posts will be solely directed to the many amongst you who want to learn true Covid science, & appreciate my time & effort.
I am going to do everything I can to ignore the dangerous & unsubstantiated disinformation posted by a few.

https://apple.news/ABv-NnvHfQAm92W1aShw1RQ

Good News & Bad News

Vaccinations & boosting have made an enormous difference.

Those with three shots who get infected seem to suffer just a bad sore throat and some fatigue and muscle pain for a few days, Dr. Craig Spencer, an emergency room physician in New York City, said Monday in a Twitter thread.
People who've had two shots get somewhat worse symptoms.
"More fatigued. More fever. More coughing. A little more miserable overall," he wrote.
Those who've had just one shot, he said, fared worse, feeling horrible for a number of days: "Not great, but not life-threatening."

Virtually all of those who have to be admitted to the hospital for COVID-19 are unvaccinated, said Spencer, who works at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center: "Every one with profound shortness of breath. Every one whose oxygen dropped when they walked. Every one needing oxygen to breathe regularly."

The one exception are those whose immune systems are weak, perhaps because of medication or old age. 
"The immunocompromised, the elderly and people who are particularly frail – there we have to be careful," said Dr. Rajesh Gandhi, an infectious disease specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital. "That's an important group that despite vaccination haven't been fully protected."

Although researchers believe omicron may be less dangerous than previous variants, because it's so contagious, it may still land just as many or more people in the hospital, said Jeremy Luban, an infectious disease expert at the UMass Chan Medical School in Worcester, Massachusetts.

That means a return to the days of trying to "flatten the curve" to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed, said Luban and Jacob Lemieux, an infectious disease expert at Mass. General

[ddb]

Take your old/tired/dangerously ignorant **** somewhere else, you disinformation-spewing worthless scum bag.
The VAST VAST decrease in mortality & SEVERITY of disease consequent to the use of these miraculous vaccines DWARFS beyond description the rare adverse effects which occur.
Scum of the earth unvaccinated & anti-mask morons like yourself are the primary reasons for the spread of the virus to the more vulnerable, & enhanced transmission begets enhanced replication begets enhanced mutation which has resulted & will continue to result in the evolution of more evasive variants.
You & your ilk are truly the worst humanity has to offer.
Get your ivermectin & HQ ready.
Omicron is coming your way, mother ****.

Wow. that was mean. Wife and 5 year old son had headache, cough, low grade temperature for a couple days over the holiday. We were secluded in the mountains away from people so it didn't matter. I felt tired and weak for a few days. Little cough too. all back to 100% already. back home now. I'm guessing it was the winter of death we escaped.

All your post demonstrated was the following:
1. You & your family were incredibly lucky having mild cases the second time around. God even protects morons sometimes, DDB.
2. Thank goodness you did not have a chance to infect others. There are still ~1500 people who are dying every day - the vast majority of them unvaccinated & a much smaller number of whom are vaccinated & in a vulnerable risk group (in conjunction with ~230K new cases every day). The vast majority of the vaccinated & vulnerable who become infected suffer mild cases because of the miracle of these beyond overwhelmingly safe vaccines.
3. Nothing you anecdotally reported changes 1 word of what I have posted countless times in these threads (included my recent summary above) - supported by real medical science & in agreement with 99% of the smartest epidemiologists, ID docs, & virologists on the planet.
4. Your comment also serves to further emphasize how **** ignorant, stupid, callous & selfish you are.

In a few words - you are a disgrace to humanity & **** you to kingdom come.

You’re a scumbag. Don’t give a F what your “credentials” are. Regardless, you’re a prick. Scum. Can go on and on about the way you speak to people. All I did was post statistics from a legitimate source. One you don’t like therefor can wish death on me and call me all sorts of names. The cycle continues.

I’m pure blood and not fooled by the so called experts. Sorry I’m not brainwashed.