2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27

[msiris]

Filipowski's probably getting a little underrated at this point, even if he's a player type I tend to completely avoid (T-rex arm Center). He's got really good on-ball skills for a guy his size, moves laterally really well, and has quick hands on defense. He'll go as far as how much he can develop as a 3PT spacer and high post passer, both of which look promising already. He's probably one of if not the safest bet to be at least a rotation guy out of all the dudes in the 20-30 range (assuming he's available there).

I just feel that there are more guys who hve more upside then him.

[LUKE23]

Shannon is on the older side so not sure how much more improvement he has, but he's an NBA athlete now both in terms of bounce/verticality and play strength, is a solid (not elite) shooter (80% from the line this year which is usually good indicator of shooting ability) and has an intensity about him that leads me to believe he has almost zero chance of busting. I do think he's more of an open court and run and jump athlete than a lateral one (defensively), but I'd be happy with him at 23. He reminds me of a more offensively polished Oubre.

He shot .573 from 2 this year at high volume as well. He can bully a lot of guards.

[msiris]

Shannon is on the older side so not sure how much more improvement he has, but he's an NBA athlete now both in terms of bounce/verticality and play strength, is a solid (not elite) shooter (80% from the line this year which is usually good indicator of shooting ability) and has an intensity about him that leads me to believe he has almost zero chance of busting. I do think he's more of an open court and run and jump athlete than a lateral one (defensively), but I'd be happy with him at 23. He reminds me of a more offensively polished Oubre.

He shot .573 from 2 this year at high volume as well. He can bully a lot of guards.

And alot of us have been wanting a new sg seems like every year.

[MVP2110]

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[FrieAaron]

Not saying wingspan doesn't matter but at 6'11 it's not like you'll be able to shoot over him easily, and he was quite good with his hands. 29th in steals per 40 for this entire class and 15th in blocks.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Filipowski's probably getting a little underrated at this point, even if he's a player type I tend to completely avoid (T-rex arm Center). He's got really good on-ball skills for a guy his size, moves laterally really well, and has quick hands on defense. He'll go as far as how much he can develop as a 3PT spacer and high post passer, both of which look promising already. He's probably one of if not the safest bet to be at least a rotation guy out of all the dudes in the 20-30 range (assuming he's available there).

I just feel that there are more guys who hve more upside then him.

That's interesting to me because I actually think he does have some upside given that he doesn't even turn 21 until November.

[emunney]

How would Sabonis fit with Giannis if you gave him less rebounding but more reliable shooting? If the answer is "still bad" then you probably go another route with our 1st. Otherwise I think that's Filipowski's ultimate ceiling. I think he's getting underrated as an athlete (check the tape and how he tested on the agility drills at the combine).

I think Filipowski is more agile in space and a better ball handler than Sabonis was. It's weird to say because Sabonis is a really good passer and gets ton of assists now, but Filipowski really has a guard skillset, he slides his feet really well, and he looks to me like he'll be able to contain penetration reasonably well guarding the perimeter. Sabonis was/is strong, though, and impossible to keep off the glass.

Regardless, I agree that he's not an ideal fit next to Giannis, but I don't think that should be a prime consideration. He could very well be our *next* starting PF.

[PG Graveyard]

Probably not apples to apples but our addiction to long arms is how you end up drafting DJ Wilson over John Collins and Thon over Sabonis

[emunney]

Alright, here's mine. This was a hard one, particularly toward the end, where I have a lot of guys damn near the same, so I gave an edge to guys who could contribute earlier in my estimation. I thought about dropping Topic off because his knee sounds like a timebomb to me, but he's good enough at a young enough age that I couldn't justify it. I was aware going into it that I wasn't big on Knecht but didn't expect to leave him off entirely. But there it is.

1. Reed Sheppard
2. Donovan Clingan
3. Alex Sarr
4. Ron Holland
5. Zaccharie Risacher
6. Tidjane Salaun
7. Stephon Castle
8. Matas Buzelis
9. Cody Williams
10. Jared McCain
11. Devin Carter
12. Rob Dillingham
13. Nikola Topic
14. Kyshawn George
15. Yves Missi
16. Ryan Dunn
17. Isaiah Collier
18. Baylor Scheierman
19. Kyle Filipowski
20. Jonathan Mogbo
21. Ja'Kobe Walter
22. Nikola Djurisic
23. Terrence Shannon, Jr.
24. Adem Bona
25. Oso Ighodaro
26. Jamal Shead
27. DaRon Holmes
28. Jalen Bridges
29. Pelle Larsson
30. Tristen Newton

[LUKE23]

Probably not apples to apples but our addiction to long arms is how you end up drafting DJ Wilson over John Collins and Thon over Sabonis

It kind of depends what you want. Missi and Ware are nearly identical age to Flipowski, and I believe both are definitely better defenders and while not quite as offensively skilled, they were productive in college and are guys who are athletes and rim runners. Personally, I'd rather have that type of a center.

Oddly enough, none of the three even shot 68% from the line last year. I would like Flipowski more if he was a stud shooter. I think he's at best average in that department. I just don't see him being a guy who makes an impact on defense against NBA big men either.  

[crkone]

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Lol Edey anywhere from 1 to 29.

[MVP2110]

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Lol Edey anywhere from 1 to 29.

Castle between 2 & 33 is also wild to me

[msiris]

Filipowski's probably getting a little underrated at this point, even if he's a player type I tend to completely avoid (T-rex arm Center). He's got really good on-ball skills for a guy his size, moves laterally really well, and has quick hands on defense. He'll go as far as how much he can develop as a 3PT spacer and high post passer, both of which look promising already. He's probably one of if not the safest bet to be at least a rotation guy out of all the dudes in the 20-30 range (assuming he's available there).

I just feel that there are more guys who hve more upside then him.

That's interesting to me because I actually think he does have some upside given that he doesn't even turn 21 until November.

I didn't say he didn't have any. Just feel other guys had more.

[German Athens]

It seems like our board is significantly higher on Ron Holland than most mocks. If he’s available at 12 or 13 which apparently has a pretty reasonable chance of happening, we should really move up and grab him.

Bobby and 23 for Holland and Davion Mitchell

We may be able to do it with 33 instead of 23, too.

[neiLz]

I see Bucks Twitter is very anti Filipowski. Curious why that is? Seems like really good value at 23 if he were to fall

Doesn't seem like a good fit. Skilled offensively, but not a good defender. Feels like best case is this current version of Bobby.

That would be an awesome pick at 23

Right, legit homerun if he turned out to be bobby at 23. people need to realize that at #23 there will be mostly flawed prospects. Bucks just need to identify if guys can actually play at the NBA level and hit on them in the draft. I prefer an athletic defensive minded big, but if they think filipowski can be an offensive big then that's fine.

The bucks just need to hit on one of the two picks and hope one of them can actually contribute.

[emunney]

1. Alexandre Sarr
2. Ron Holland
3. Zaccharie Risacher
4. Jared McCain
5. Stephon Castle
6. Cody Williams
7. Devin Carter
8. Reed Sheppard
9. Dalton Knecht
10. Donovan Clingan
11. Nikola Topic
12. Isaiah Collier
13. Tidjane Salaun
14. Tristan Da Silva
15. Ryan Dunn
16. Carlton Carrington
17. Yves Missi
18. Matas Buzelis
19. Rob Dillingham
20. Kyshawn George
21. Jaylon Tyson
22. Kel'el Ware
23. Johnny Furphy
24. Terrence Shannon Jr.
25. Kyle Filipowski
26. Ulrich Chomche
27. Pacome Dadiet
28. Tyler Smith
29. DaRon Holmes
30. Ja'Kobe Walter

Dillon Jones was your dude! Am I imagining this?

[Ruben Quevedo]

Alright, here's mine. This was a hard one, particularly toward the end, where I have a lot of guys damn near the same, so I gave an edge to guys who could contribute earlier in my estimation. I thought about dropping Topic off because his knee sounds like a timebomb to me, but he's good enough at a young enough age that I couldn't justify it. I was aware going into it that I wasn't big on Knecht but didn't expect to leave him off entirely. But there it is.

1. Reed Sheppard
2. Donovan Clingan
3. Alex Sarr
4. Ron Holland
5. Zaccharie Risacher
6. Tidjane Salaun
7. Stephon Castle
8. Matas Buzelis
9. Cody Williams
10. Jared McCain
11. Devin Carter
12. Rob Dillingham
13. Nikola Topic
14. Kyshawn George
15. Yves Missi
16. Ryan Dunn
17. Isaiah Collier
18. Baylor Scheierman
19. Kyle Filipowski
20. Jonathan Mogbo
21. Ja'Kobe Walter
22. Nikola Djurisic
23. Terrence Shannon, Jr.
24. Adem Bona
25. Oso Ighodaro
26. Jamal Shead
27. DaRon Holmes
28. Jalen Bridges
29. Pelle Larsson
30. Tristen Newton

Would like to hear your thoughts on Edey.

I think he's being significantly overlooked. Dominant statistical profile, good touch around the rim plus decent free throw shooting suggests a chance to develop a 3-point shot (or at least a midrange shot), moves his feet really well considering his size, got better every year at Purdue and improved his conditioning, plays with an edge and shows toughness.

I find it really hard to believe he isn't one of the best 10 prospects in the draft, let alone top 30.

[paulpressey25]

If Edey is there at #23 (and he won't be) then the Bucks need to take him.

He's got an incredibly soft touch and great arm coordination for a big. I think he ends up sneaking into the top ten tonight.

In today's NBA he's not a 35mpg guy, but think he's a top 8 rotation guy that will give certain teams fits.

[PG Graveyard]

If Edey is there at #23 (and he won't be) then the Bucks need to take him.

He's got an incredibly soft touch and great arm coordination for a big. I think he ends up sneaking into the top ten tonight.

In today's NBA he's not a 35mpg guy, but think he's a top 8 rotation guy that will give certain teams fits.

He did basically play every minute in college. Dude has incredible stamina but obviously in the nba he’s more of a 20-25 minute guy probably at most

[JonHeist]

I guess we're the only 2 on this one. Agree 100%. He'll star in the G League, but he's just not dynamic enough to do the same things in the NBA.

Same here, too slow and small to be an effective wing in the NBA

6'7, 218 is too small? He weighs more than guys like Ryan Dunn.

He's slower but he's methodical. His ability to work in space doesn't need speed to work.

he's 6'5.5" with a 6'8" wingspan that's the size of the average SG these days, it's far from ideal

I like him if you think he can play the 2, but I'm not so sure about that