2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[Rapsobsessed7]

^^ I'm happier just drafting Kanter/Biyombo/Val and keeping Amir. Gortat is NOT worth moving our pick for imo. If we're trading our pick for a C, it better be someone like Bynum/Bogut etc.

Gortat is overrated IMO. Hes playing with Steve Nash...i mean come on. Hes good but he isnt worth moving down 10 spots for.

if brandon knight drops to that range, where he should be then i do it. But as things stand right now, there is no one in the suns pick range i like.

Knight + gortat > amir + katner
(assuming we dont get a top 2)

yes but id need Knight to be 100% there. If not no deal. I also highly doubt he would be.

[Laowai]

^^ I'm happier just drafting Kanter/Biyombo/Val and keeping Amir. Gortat is NOT worth moving our pick for imo. If we're trading our pick for a C, it better be someone like Bynum/Bogut etc.

Gortat is overrated IMO. Hes playing with Steve Nash...i mean come on. Hes good but he isnt worth moving down 10 spots for.

if brandon knight drops to that range, where he should be then i do it. But as things stand right now, there is no one in the suns pick range i like.

Knight + gortat > amir + katner
(assuming we dont get a top 2)

Gortat is proven none of the bigs in the draft are in his league.
Sure Steve Nash makes a difference but you don't need Gortat to score even though he is good at driving and stuffs.
We have a great mix of players as bigs...............Bargs can score, Davis and Gortat defense and some points. Dorsey is as great re-bounder as Reggie and better offensively.

[flatjacket1]

Gortat is solid, has a higher offensive rating than Andrea and his defensive rating is a whopping 10 lower.

Include +/-:

On defense, the team gives up 4.1 more points per 100 possessions with him on the bench, and his net sits at +1.6 per 100.

Andrea on the other hand scores more from the bench with 5.5 on defense. That's a 9.6 difference on defense. Andreas net is -2.6 per 100 possessions.

One could argue Gortat to be better than Bargnani, and considering his contract I would easily slide down 10 slots.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I wouldn't mind bringing Gortat in, he could certainly help us (and I certainly agree that he's better than Bargnani---not that that's setting the bar very high), but just like Iggy there's no way I would give up our high lotto pick for him---Gortat is not a star player, he's a solid C at 27 years old now. If we could get him in a salary dump, or maybe in a trade involving Bargs, then fine. But I wouldn't give up key rebuilding assets for him, that simply makes no sense given the situation our team is in.

[witnessraps]

Insanity...we ain't movin our pick for gortat.

[Laowai]

Insanity...we ain't movin our pick for gortat.

Yes Gortat is 27 but a young 27 up till his trade believe it or not his minutes played we in Oden range.
He hasn't had the abuse most Cs have.
After Irving...........................which player is basically a sure thing?
Especially the big's if we are 3 see very little difference in #3 or 13

[witnessraps]

Insanity...we ain't movin our pick for gortat.

Yes Gortat is 27 but a young 27 up till his trade believe it or not his minutes played we in Oden range.
He hasn't had the abuse most Cs have.
After Irving...........................which player is basically a sure thing?
Especially the big's if we are 3 see very little difference in #3 or 13

Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Bismack Biyombo...I'm pretty sure 3 of the 5 should be better than Gortat, and I'm sure that after workouts and after we have a better idea of the players, there will be a better more intriguing prospect available.

[Rapsfan07]

I'd be willing to discuss moving the pick but not for Gortat. I'm sorry.

[prototype]

Just a Bargnani for Gortat trade would be even without any picks involve. I don't know if BC would be willing to do it though since he values Bargnani like a perennial star player. I can see the Suns doing it if they are planning to make one more playoff push before Nash retires and Bargnani would be a good transitional player during a rebuild and win them some ping pong balls.

[flatjacket1]

Insanity...we ain't movin our pick for gortat.

Yes Gortat is 27 but a young 27 up till his trade believe it or not his minutes played we in Oden range.
He hasn't had the abuse most Cs have.
After Irving...........................which player is basically a sure thing?
Especially the big's if we are 3 see very little difference in #3 or 13

Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Bismack Biyombo...I'm pretty sure 3 of the 5 should be better than Gortat, and I'm sure that after workouts and after we have a better idea of the players, there will be a better more intriguing prospect available.

We would end up with a pick still just not a high one. And will you bet me that every single one of those will be better than him?

I bet there were quite a few people pushing to hold the number 1 pick in Bargs year, while if we moved it we might be in the playoffs right now. Picks = most overvalued assets ever, especially by fans.

[witnessraps]

We would end up with a pick still just not a high one. And will you bet me that every single one of those will be better than him?

I bet there were quite a few people pushing to hold the number 1 pick in Bargs year, while if we moved it we might be in the playoffs right now. Picks = most overvalued assets ever, especially by fans.

Don't put words in my mouth...all I said was that I wouldn't trade the pick for Gortat. If the right deal comes along maybe, but if not you go for the best available prospect to join the young core.

[The J Rocka]

1st pick + Wes Johnson for 3rd pick + DeRozan?

[bboyskinnylegs]

1st pick + Wes Johnson for 3rd pick + DeRozan?

no way I'd do that, DeMar is a proven 21 year old putting up 17ppg in his 2nd season, I'm happier having DeMar+Bayless+(Biyombo/Kanter/Val) than Kyrie+Wes

[flatjacket1]

We would end up with a pick still just not a high one. And will you bet me that every single one of those will be better than him?

I bet there were quite a few people pushing to hold the number 1 pick in Bargs year, while if we moved it we might be in the playoffs right now. Picks = most overvalued assets ever, especially by fans.

Don't put words in my mouth...all I said was that I wouldn't trade the pick for Gortat. If the right deal comes along maybe, but if not you go for the best available prospect to join the young core.

The pick for Gortat was never purposed, it was always swapping picks and Gortat.

Gortat is young and proven and in a weak draft that lacks our weakness (center) why not get that?

[Rapsobsessed7]

Gortat is 27 not exactly young. I'd rather Kanter.

[Silk Wilkes]

I think we should steal a guy like Xavier Henry from Memphis. His value is probably lower than dirt and he has the potential to be a young shooter in our jumpshot challenged line-up.

[ty123]

1st pick + Wes Johnson for 3rd pick + DeRozan?

#1 for #3 + Bayless?

[bboyskinnylegs]

I think we should steal a guy like Xavier Henry from Memphis. His value is probably lower than dirt and he has the potential to be a young shooter in our jumpshot challenged line-up.

I was just thinking that watching him on the bench today. If Memphis goes into panic mode this summer trying to match offers for Gasol and re-sign Battier, they might be willing to deal Henry (or perhaps Mayo) for capspace or minor assets--which is where our TPE could really come in handy. He had a down year, but he's just 20 years old, has great size and lots of potential as an athletic defender/shooter that doesn't need the ball in his hands. He had a sprained right knee in late February, but he hasn't seen the floor since the trade deadline. I felt like Henry or George were probably the guys we were planning to select with our pick last year (before both went ahead of us and Ed fell to #13). Getting him could be a solid move to continue our rebuilding efforts like the Bayless/Johnson deals.

[witnessraps]

We would end up with a pick still just not a high one. And will you bet me that every single one of those will be better than him?

I bet there were quite a few people pushing to hold the number 1 pick in Bargs year, while if we moved it we might be in the playoffs right now. Picks = most overvalued assets ever, especially by fans.

Don't put words in my mouth...all I said was that I wouldn't trade the pick for Gortat. If the right deal comes along maybe, but if not you go for the best available prospect to join the young core.

The pick for Gortat was never purposed, it was always swapping picks and Gortat.

Gortat is young and proven and in a weak draft that lacks our weakness (center) why not get that?

Gortat isn't exactly proven....he had good minutes as a backup in Orlando and some good time in Phoenix next to Nash, but are we going to trade what could be the number 1,2,3,4,5,6 pick for him? Do you see him as a championship centre next to Ed Davis? I don't. We're rebuilding, and I think we can get a better C prospect, possibly even in this draft (Kanter). Why would we want to swap picks if there are very good prospects in the top 5 but the draft is considered crap after the first half of the lottery. Don't get me wrong, Gortat is quite good, but we could possibly draft an allstar with this pick.

[waltthewiz]

I think we should steal a guy like Xavier Henry from Memphis. His value is probably lower than dirt and he has the potential to be a young shooter in our jumpshot challenged line-up.

I was just thinking that watching him on the bench today. If Memphis goes into panic mode this summer trying to match offers for Gasol and re-sign Battier, they might be willing to deal Henry (or perhaps Mayo) for capspace or minor assets--which is where our TPE could really come in handy. He had a down year, but he's just 20 years old, has great size and lots of potential as an athletic defender/shooter that doesn't need the ball in his hands. He had a sprained right knee in late February, but he hasn't seen the floor since the trade deadline. I felt like Henry or George were probably the guys we were planning to select with our pick last year (before both went ahead of us and Ed fell to #13). Getting him could be a solid move to continue our rebuilding efforts like the Bayless/Johnson deals.

On a similar note, what about Cole Aldrich or BJ Mullens on OKC? With Mohammed and Perk on board, OKC has a glut of Cs. Althought I'm not too sure what would get it done for them. Maybe a future 1st + Julain Wright?