Derrick Rose Thread #13 - Acceptance

[Red8911]

Im scared of Derrick hurting himself. Guys are dropping like flies this year. Im cool with him staying out. This season is jinxed for injuries.

with that mind set might as well sit him next year too,better yet he should retire to avoid injury.

[Red8911]

The last time the Bulls played a playoff game on a Saturday afternoon, D. Rose started. Keep hope alive.

But seriously, it's kinda absurd that he'd sit out and pretty much waste this whole season.

waste WHAT season? the Bulls didn't spend because they didn't PLAN to CONTEND.

I don't understand how this isn't be resonated. WE ALREADY KNEW THIS.

Dude's not wasting anything, he's protecting his body & career.

Forget this season.

so without rose we cant beat the heat? no chance? what r u sayin,bulls have a very good team.

[Edvedder10]

The last time the Bulls played a playoff game on a Saturday afternoon, D. Rose started. Keep hope alive.

But seriously, it's kinda absurd that he'd sit out and pretty much waste this whole season.

waste WHAT season? the Bulls didn't spend because they didn't PLAN to CONTEND.

I don't understand how this isn't be resonated. WE ALREADY KNEW THIS.

Dude's not wasting anything, he's protecting his body & career.

Forget this season.

so without rose we cant beat the heat? no chance? what r u sayin,bulls have a very good team.

Chances of beating Heat go up with Rose playing.

[Midway Bully]

Im scared of Derrick hurting himself. Guys are dropping like flies this year. Im cool with him staying out. This season is jinxed for injuries.

So was last year...
And there will be injuries next year.

That is why they are paid millions of dollars in guaranteed money.

Rose, nor his kids, never have to work another day their lives. Between his Bulls contrats, and his shoe deal, he has about $200M guaranteed in total.

Nah this year is WAY worse in terms of injuries.

The issue isnt that he gets paid to play. The issue is, he isnt confident to play which can cause other issues.

The fact that the one player who plays closest to his own game just freakishly torn his meniscus, is enough for pause.

there is no correlation between all these injuries. what legit excuse is there that there is something about this year that is getting all these players injured? last year we had the lockout, so it was reasonable to assume that was the cause of injuries. injuries happen every year, most we don't care about because the players aren't big names, or don't matter to us. it's only this year that there have been all these big names that have gone down to injuries and people are starting to notice.

[League Circles]

Why do you think doctors are in the business of preventing future injury without any other context.

They are in the business of advising patients to do things based on the context given. For example:

Hey doc, how can I best avoid dying by crashing into the ground at free fall speed?

answer - don't go skydiving.

Hey doc, how can I best avoid dying from crashing into the ground at free fall speed given that I want to, and feel ready, to sky dive again?

answer - wear a helmet

Often times, the desire and comfort level of the patient is assumed and taken for granted, so the context isn't really dealt with. Like people with infections are assumed to want to be infection free, and people who cannot walk after an accident are assumed to want to walk. But it's NOT assumed that people who fear injury WANT to play. And doctors don't recommend things in contexts other than what exists. If Rose doesn't want to play.. which he doesn't (net), I doubt any doctor will recommend that he play. Oh, oh, but how will he ever play again? Well, the doctors don't (or shouldn't) care if he ever plays again. They're not giving him life or financial advise.

Sure, tell him to never leave the house. But that has nothing to do with this conversation since Rose plays basketball and the goal is not to avoid any chance of reinjury but rather to get him back to peak physical form.

And I think it is relevant that doctors haven't flagged it for 2 reasons. (1) I haven't seen anything to show that doctors have a particular fear that athletes coming off an ACL repair have a higher risk of injury to the knee or other lower body parts. There *may* be a higher risk but this hasn't been proven and isn't a strong enough issue that doctors have tried to get it studied. (2) There are none of these studies or literature to read. For Rose to come up with the conclusion you expressed, Rose would have to do significant research on his own time into case histories of people coming off ACL surgeries and be looking for a pattern the doctors who do this daily are themselves missing. Why do you believe Rose is the Erin Brokovich of orthopedics? He may or may not have taken the ACT and he has 1 semester of college. He's a basketball player not a medical researcher.

You CAN'T study these types of things very well. Why? Because the variation in tissue condition among athletes is FAR smaller than the variation in mechanism of injury. The different mechanisms possible to reinjury a player are infinite. No two are the same. You can't hold mechanism constant and then see how injury rate differs for guys who tore ACLs vs guys who didn't.

[Trm3]

Im scared of Derrick hurting himself. Guys are dropping like flies this year. Im cool with him staying out. This season is jinxed for injuries.

Not if ur a roiding Heat player, ur always healthy.

[DASMACKDOWN]

Time for a new Derrick Rose thread?

[Spike_bull]

Time for a new Derrick Rose thread?

Hell Yeah! I need somewhere to post my frustration... what better than REALGM?