ImageImageImage

The Andrew Wiggins Thread

Moderators: Domejandro, Calinks, Worm Guts

User avatar
Takingbaconback
Head Coach
Posts: 6,952
And1: 2,625
Joined: Jun 22, 2013
   

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1481 » by Takingbaconback » Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:21 am

lul raptors
User avatar
wildvikeswolves
Starter
Posts: 2,025
And1: 577
Joined: Feb 12, 2009
       

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1482 » by wildvikeswolves » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:56 am

Wiggins will break out this year and they will forget they ever said that :lol:
Ranger
Sophomore
Posts: 194
And1: 147
Joined: Nov 08, 2014
     

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1483 » by Ranger » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:29 am

Man, they're saying some really hateful **** over there. It's actually surprising.
User avatar
Mattya
RealGM
Posts: 17,555
And1: 7,956
Joined: Aug 08, 2008
   

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1484 » by Mattya » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:35 am

Someone should save that thread for when Wiggins becomes an unrestricted free agent and then tweet it to him. I'm sure now that their hearts are broken they don't even want him anymore.
User avatar
breatnach
Starter
Posts: 2,209
And1: 835
Joined: Apr 17, 2010
Location: Munich

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1485 » by breatnach » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:19 am

The real question will be if he plays for Canada during the Olympics, should they qualify? Of course the odds of them qualifying are lessened without him, but the actual Olympics are closer to the season and any injury or fatigue would be much worse.
Klomp
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 69,880
And1: 23,171
Joined: Jul 08, 2005
Contact:
   

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1486 » by Klomp » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:25 am

breatnach wrote:The real question will be if he plays for Canada during the Olympics, should they qualify? Of course the odds of them qualifying are lessened without him, but the actual Olympics are closer to the season and any injury or fatigue would be much worse.

Doubtful
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
TaylorTag
Rookie
Posts: 1,010
And1: 376
Joined: Jul 11, 2014
       

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1487 » by TaylorTag » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:44 pm

I love Andrew Wiggins and hope he helps lead the Wolves to a championship

But there is a very, very, very tiny part of me--a part of me that I hate--that thinks if he had the competitive drive of Kobe, he would play in the Olympics. This is the best chance in years that Canada could have made some noise in the Olympics.

Having said all that, I love Wiggins for making this decision. It shows that he cares about the organization and has a desire to get better this offseason (hopefully he will be in MN a lot).

I also hope Andrew enjoys his summer. Dude is 21 and should not forget to have some fun (don't think I have to remind him to do that)
Steve_Holiday
Pro Prospect
Posts: 798
And1: 51
Joined: Jan 02, 2004
Location: TIB (This Is Bloomtown)

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1488 » by Steve_Holiday » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:39 pm

If he were an American turning down a chance to play with Team USA and the great players and coaches there, I'd question the move. But it's team canada. This decision totally makes sense. Olympic basketball doesn't mean a whole lot in my eyes.
User avatar
urinesane
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,012
And1: 2,887
Joined: May 10, 2010
 

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1489 » by urinesane » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:28 pm

If he were playing for Canada instead of fixing his handles, we would all be pissed next year.
User avatar
Grits n Gravy
General Manager
Posts: 9,627
And1: 1,804
Joined: Feb 22, 2010
Location: New Zealand
 

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1490 » by Grits n Gravy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:19 am

Lakers612 wrote:I love Andrew Wiggins and hope he helps lead the Wolves to a championship

But there is a very, very, very tiny part of me--a part of me that I hate--that thinks if he had the competitive drive of Kobe, he would play in the Olympics. This is the best chance in years that Canada could have made some noise in the Olympics.

Having said all that, I love Wiggins for making this decision. It shows that he cares about the organization and has a desire to get better this offseason (hopefully he will be in MN a lot).

I also hope Andrew enjoys his summer. Dude is 21 and should not forget to have some fun (don't think I have to remind him to do that)

Steven Adams hasn't played for us yet and has decided to work out with coaches in America and while it is disappointing he hasn't suited up for us yet I think it has payed of for his progress as a player. I hope that's the case with Andrew and that dedicating himself this off season will propel him to a break out season. No doubt he will be playing for Canada in the years to come and they will be a force on the international stage.
Crazy-Canuck
RealGM
Posts: 30,390
And1: 8,455
Joined: Nov 24, 2003

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1491 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:42 am

I think there should be some concerns of him burning out. He stepped into the gym as soon as the season ended. He hasnt taken a break in a few years and he will likely continue to see close to 35 minutes this season.
User avatar
Ferulci
Starter
Posts: 2,490
And1: 2,567
Joined: Nov 15, 2009
Location: France

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1492 » by Ferulci » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:50 pm

Lakers612 wrote:I love Andrew Wiggins and hope he helps lead the Wolves to a championship

But there is a very, very, very tiny part of me--a part of me that I hate--that thinks if he had the competitive drive of Kobe, he would play in the Olympics.


Kobe didnt play for U.S olympic team until 2007. Did he discover his competitive drive by age 29 ?
buckboy wrote:
jg77 wrote:Lavine is my dark horse MVP candidate.

That is the darkest horse that has ever galloped.
User avatar
breatnach
Starter
Posts: 2,209
And1: 835
Joined: Apr 17, 2010
Location: Munich

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1493 » by breatnach » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:18 am

Ferulci wrote:
Lakers612 wrote:I love Andrew Wiggins and hope he helps lead the Wolves to a championship

But there is a very, very, very tiny part of me--a part of me that I hate--that thinks if he had the competitive drive of Kobe, he would play in the Olympics.


Kobe didnt play for U.S olympic team until 2007. Did he discover his competitive drive by age 29 ?


I get what you're saying, but the comparison is lacking. The US could win a medal with or without Kobe. The only tournament they didn't win a medal was 1980 - and that's because they decided not to participate. Canada winning a medal even with Wiggins is very unlikely. Without him, though, it is impossible. The last time Canada won a medal, they still had the Union Jack on their flag (1936).

Don't really know why I am arguing though, I don't really care if he participates or not, as long as he doesn't get injured. But that could just as easily happen playing pickup ball or doing knuckle push ups :roll:
User avatar
southern wolf
General Manager
Posts: 9,854
And1: 2,163
Joined: Aug 02, 2008
Location: Australia
   

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1494 » by southern wolf » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:02 am

I don't see how working one on one with coaches is going to improve your game more than playing real games at the Olympics, but I get the worry about injuries if Wiggins did choose to go over there.
User avatar
Ferulci
Starter
Posts: 2,490
And1: 2,567
Joined: Nov 15, 2009
Location: France

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1495 » by Ferulci » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:10 am

breatnach wrote:I get what you're saying, but the comparison is lacking. The US could win a medal with or without Kobe. The only tournament they didn't win a medal was 1980 - and that's because they decided not to participate. Canada winning a medal even with Wiggins is very unlikely. Without him, though, it is impossible. The last time Canada won a medal, they still had the Union Jack on their flag (1936).

It's not even about a medal, Canada chances of going to Olympics even with Wiggins are very very complicated. Early July, they have to win the pre-olympics tournament (and go through superior teams like France or Turkey) which is close to impossible.
Wiggins choice to spend the offseason to work on his strengths is incredibly good for the Wolves, for Thibs and probably for Canada in the long-run. Kristaps also took the same decision with Latvia.
buckboy wrote:
jg77 wrote:Lavine is my dark horse MVP candidate.

That is the darkest horse that has ever galloped.
User avatar
urinesane
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,012
And1: 2,887
Joined: May 10, 2010
 

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1496 » by urinesane » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:34 pm

southern wolf wrote:I don't see how working one on one with coaches is going to improve your game more than playing real games at the Olympics, but I get the worry about injuries if Wiggins did choose to go over there.


Do you understand how players actually add pieces to their game though? It's not from playing, it's from drilling those skills over and over until they are second nature. Then you bring that to real games.

It's difficult to add those pieces under the pressure of high level competition. It's pretty much common knowledge that players add parts to their game in the offseason, so can we move past this false narrative (that some how real games are better for adding pieces to your game)?
User avatar
southern wolf
General Manager
Posts: 9,854
And1: 2,163
Joined: Aug 02, 2008
Location: Australia
   

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1497 » by southern wolf » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:08 am

urinesane wrote:
southern wolf wrote:I don't see how working one on one with coaches is going to improve your game more than playing real games at the Olympics, but I get the worry about injuries if Wiggins did choose to go over there.


Do you understand how players actually add pieces to their game though? It's not from playing, it's from drilling those skills over and over until they are second nature. Then you bring that to real games.

It's difficult to add those pieces under the pressure of high level competition. It's pretty much common knowledge that players add parts to their game in the offseason, so can we move past this false narrative (that some how real games are better for adding pieces to your game)?


The Olympics will be all finished up by mid-late August though. The NBA season doesn't start till November. Still plenty of time for him to come back to Minny and work on those things in the lead up to the season.
User avatar
King Malta
Starter
Posts: 2,328
And1: 1,554
Joined: Jun 24, 2013
Location: The Lottery
         

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1498 » by King Malta » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:17 am

Am not Canadian. Am a Timberwolves fan. I fully support this move.

For the record though, I wouldn't care if he made this decision if he was Australian either. But unlike Football (or Soccer to you guys), I actually couldn't give a rats either way about International basketball or the Olympics in general.
User avatar
Mattya
RealGM
Posts: 17,555
And1: 7,956
Joined: Aug 08, 2008
   

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1499 » by Mattya » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:35 am

Forgot to post this yesterday when I listened to Doogie's most recent podcast, but apparently Wiggins during his training with Drew Hanlan last week he mad 250/351 threes.
Crazy-Canuck
RealGM
Posts: 30,390
And1: 8,455
Joined: Nov 24, 2003

Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1500 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:08 am

He sounds depressed. From his instagram:

22wigginsThey kick you when you down, but wanna kick it when you up...

Return to Minnesota Timberwolves