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truth18 wrote:

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Is "pseudospiritual" a type? He's also only 26 and dealing with unprecedented media attention.

Met a lot of them in Cambridge growing up. Met a lot of them in my LSD days. I agree with Jaqua.

Absolutely love Kyrie as a player but I'd never want to hang out with him in real life.

It's ironic because I thought the exact opposite with Thomas.

Maybe we can hire Phil Jackson as an assistant coach..

Seems like a lot of posters don’t know the history behind the term “plastic people”. There’s a reason it’s used on this forum and not really others.

bucknersrevenge wrote:

ConstableGeneva wrote:After watching his shootaround interview, I suddenly appreciated this commercial he made with Nike even more.

Watch on YouTube

Not the part about him building a legacy in Boston. But how it was executed. No fans, no media, no bright lights, no extraneous noise. Just the game he loves and the man who taught it to him.

Probably getting too sentimental but I actually feel real bad for him.

That's who he is. Lebron would've made the commercial with fans around him. But Kyrie is different than him. I just would like everyone who reads this post to just think about for a minute what it would feel like to have every word you said QUESTIONED. What would it feel like if repeatedly other people talked about you while you were not there and then a bunch of gossipers kept coming to you over and over again asking you to comment, confirm or deny what they said about YOU. Just consider that. And consider that you're 26 and everybody's watching you do it. Any word you utter can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion. How would you hold up?

Come on. No excuse for his answer. Just be vague and then leave at the end of the year. I’m ok with that. Others that are younger have handled similar situations better. **** Tatum just said he would trade himself for Davis and laughed. It’s called emotional intelligence and Kyrie, as much as I love him, is lacking in that department.

shackles10 wrote:Seems like a lot of posters don’t know the history behind the term “plastic people”. There’s a reason it’s used on this forum and not really others.

Yeah. KG. People are still being dicks.

truth18 wrote:

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Is "pseudospiritual" a type? He's also only 26 and dealing with unprecedented media attention.

Met a lot of them in Cambridge growing up. Met a lot of them in my LSD days. I agree with Jaqua.

Absolutely love Kyrie as a player but I'd never want to hang out with him in real life.

It's ironic because I thought the exact opposite with Thomas.

It can develop into something pure though.

I was like that when I was 20-21.. oooh meditation, chakra souk etc, all that jazz.

As I grew a bit older, recieved counseling and as I pursue a master's in mental health counseling, there are a lot of Buddhist philosophies and concepts I identify with and have utilized in self growth, and applied them *psychologically*. I wouldnt call myself a spiritual person, but there are elements of Buddhist spirituality that I have applied psychologically have helped me grow as a person, and navigate my adult life. A tool for healing, rather than a mask for a status.

And Kyrie is 26, I feel he will eventually grow out of this phase.

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My honest opinion:

If the Celtics don't get AD, and Kyrie indicates to Danny again he might leave, Danny should ask him if he'd re-sign in Brooklyn; if so, try to trade him for D'Angelo Russell. D'Angelo is having an amazing season and is an RFA. Without AD to worry about, it would make sense to get him.

Just my opinion.

GUYS! GUYS! I recoup our losses in the Kyrie trade! (Think of Sefolosha as the 2nd rounder we lost.)



lol

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25900539/boston-celtics-guard-kyrie-irving-says-focus-title-not-future

Irving has said it was frustration that led him to repeatedly call out the team's younger players for their play this season and cite the team's youth and inexperience as something Boston needs to work through to get where it wants to go.

I read that like, Kyrie needs to work through his own youth and inexperience.. He wanted to be the franchise player, he wanted to be the team leader - this is what he signed up for. He's made two or three screw-ups so far in that role unless they were 3D chess moves none of us understand..

Andrew McCeltic wrote:

Jaqua92 wrote:

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Is "pseudospiritual" a type? He's also only 26 and dealing with unprecedented media attention.

No, not literally. I just use to to describe people who cling to spiritual growth for self validating and mildly narcissistic reasons, rather than for actual growth..but Kyrie seems to have good intent. He just is a bit narcissistic and is having a hard time.with all the media attention, as you say

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No, I know exactly what you mean - you just said it like it was a diagnosis and brought up Gestalt therapy.

Sidebar: is Bill Walton "spiritual" or "pseudo-spiritual"?

Oh no, its not a diagnosis by any means. Gestalt therapy is an existential, more experiential approach to counseling. It focuses on the present moment, and navigating through unfinished business that interferes with our ability to feel fulfilled in the present moment. It's style is navigating through the psyche, and uncovering fragmented parts of ourselves to achieve DEEP self awareness. That's the main tool of it...self awareness and being aware of things as the come up, both internally and externally in the present moment, whether its from trauma, or just maladaptive development.

People who are introspective and "soul searching" benefit greatly.

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GoCeltics123 wrote:My honest opinion:

If the Celtics don't get AD, and Kyrie indicates to Danny again he might leave, Danny should ask him if he'd re-sign in Brooklyn; if so, try to trade him for D'Angelo Russell. D'Angelo is having an amazing season and is an RFA. Without AD to worry about, it would make sense to get him.

Just my opinion.

If you think Kyrie has maturity and integrity issues, DAR is going to out all the players cheating on their wives..

Jaqua92 wrote:

Andrew McCeltic wrote:

Jaqua92 wrote:No, not literally. I just use to to describe people who cling to spiritual growth for self validating and mildly narcissistic reasons, rather than for actual growth..but Kyrie seems to have good intent. He just is a bit narcissistic and is having a hard time.with all the media attention, as you say

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No, I know exactly what you mean - you just said it like it was a diagnosis and brought up Gestalt therapy.

Sidebar: is Bill Walton "spiritual" or "pseudo-spiritual"?

Oh no, its not a diagnosis by any means. Gestalt therapy is an existential, more experiential approach to counseling. It focuses on the present moment, and navigating through unfinished business that interferes with our ability to feel fulfilled in the present moment. It's style is navigating through the psyche, and uncovering fragmented parts of ourselves to achieve DEEP self awareness. That's the main tool of it...self awareness and being aware of things as the come up, both internally and externally in the present moment, whether its from trauma, or just maladaptive development.

People who are introspective and "soul searching" benefit greatly.

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You read de Mello?

Whenever AD ends up is where Irving is going to end up. Have to hope he isn't traded until the Celtics have their shot.

Andrew McCeltic wrote:

GoCeltics123 wrote:My honest opinion:

If the Celtics don't get AD, and Kyrie indicates to Danny again he might leave, Danny should ask him if he'd re-sign in Brooklyn; if so, try to trade him for D'Angelo Russell. D'Angelo is having an amazing season and is an RFA. Without AD to worry about, it would make sense to get him.

Just my opinion.

If you think Kyrie has maturity and integrity issues, DAR is going to out all the players cheating on their wives..

He's been a great leader for the Nets this year. Everyone loves him there.

3D Chess wrote:

Jaqua92 wrote:

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
No, I know exactly what you mean - you just said it like it was a diagnosis and brought up Gestalt therapy.

Sidebar: is Bill Walton "spiritual" or "pseudo-spiritual"?

Oh no, its not a diagnosis by any means. Gestalt therapy is an existential, more experiential approach to counseling. It focuses on the present moment, and navigating through unfinished business that interferes with our ability to feel fulfilled in the present moment. It's style is navigating through the psyche, and uncovering fragmented parts of ourselves to achieve DEEP self awareness. That's the main tool of it...self awareness and being aware of things as the come up, both internally and externally in the present moment, whether its from trauma, or just maladaptive development.

People who are introspective and "soul searching" benefit greatly.

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You read de Mello?

I have not sir

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I don't think Kyrie "backtracking" means what people think. Most athletes do the whole"I might go anywhere" thing to make sure they have leverage for contact talks. There's been stuff all season about whether Ainge should give Kyrie the max. Dude is just making sure his value stays high. He will remain a Celtic

Pacino62 wrote:

shackles10 wrote:Seems like a lot of posters don’t know the history behind the term “plastic people”. There’s a reason it’s used on this forum and not really others.

Yeah. KG. People are still being dicks.

Funny thing is, KG said that during the season where the C's drastically fell short of expectations, finished as a 7 seed and lost in the first round for the first time in the KG era. Team was blown up that offseason. Maybe they were right to melt (still love ya, KG)

I'm going back to what I said in Pt. 1, this whole thing is being driven by LeBron and Rich Paul to get AD before the deadline. LeBron is desperate to make some kind of meaningful impact to be the chief recruiter for the Lakers and the diamonds in his eyes that were KD and Kahwi don't appear to be receptive to hooking up with him. Rob Pelinka and Magic are clowns so LeBron NEEDS to make a splash. That is why there is so much desperation before the deadline and they are using every media plant they have at their disposal to drive the narrative that AD wants the Lakers and Kyrie is iffy in Boston. They know that they can't go head to head with Boston if this goes past the deadline. If you got enough hacks pushing your story after a while you get everybody to believe it. Here's the facts as we know them: 1) Kyrie said back in October his intention was to stay in Boston. 2) The Boston Celtics have the most assets if this gets into a bidding war after 7/1. Until then, we sit back and pray for February 7th to pass by with nothing upsetting the apple cart. I predict February 8th will be a big party on this board.

I think after reading the full transcript of exactly what he said I feel better about the situation.

He is literally just saying that he only wants to focus on basketball. How it is unfair and he's frustrated that because Davis requests a trade the media drags his name into the mud and he has to answer questions that a week ago weren't being asked.

They ask him if his mindset has changed and he says "Ask me July 1st". Opposing teams look at this and say "Oh look Kyrie can't wait until free agency - he's going to leave!!". Perhaps. Of course it can also mean that on the first day of free agency when I'm able to I will show you just how committed I am when I sign with the Celtics.....just like I said I would. How literally nothing can be determined before then so stop asking me.

He says he is going to do what is best for his family. People jump on it and assume that means he's not going to do what's best for the Celtics. Well why can't those things be the same? Why does the media assume that "Doing what is best for my family and career" means going somewhere else? At the end of the day we can pay him as much as anyone else and we have a fantastic STABLE organization, ownership and fan base that has done everything to support Kyrie and this team. He has a connection to the area because of his dad. He has talked about being immortalized in the rafters. Maybe - just maybe - he believes the best thing for him and his family is to be a Celtic.

This whole thing to me is nothing more than a media driven s*** storm.

July 1st he commits to the Celtics and on July 2nd Danny blows his nut to get Davis....from there we are poppin' champagne.

Kyrie feels like that guy who cheated on his girl (Lebron) to be with you. Then your friends keep telling you, "if Rie can do that to his ex, then he can do it to you too" but then you refuse to listen and just work hard on the relationship. So you spend a year together somewhat happy despite some bumps on the road. Then after realizing you have a future together, he proposed! But in comes his ex who's a villain in every story trying to ruin the life you and Kyrie are trying to build. Now Kyrie's mind is all clouded and confused.

EDIT: This is the GB in me talking. The GB in me is strong.

ConstableGeneva wrote:Kyrie feels like that guy who cheated on his girl (Lebron) to be with you. Then your friends keep telling you, "if Rie can do that to his ex, then he can do it to you too" but then you refuse to listen and just work hard on the relationship. So you spend a year together somewhat happy despite some bumps on the road. Then after realizing you have a future together, he proposed! But in comes his ex who's a villain in every story trying to ruin the life you and Kyrie are trying to build. Now Kyrie's mind is all clouded and confused.

Yes. But Kyrie's also eyeing a couple of new girls too.