OT: Democratic Primary Thread

[HarthorneWingo]

Democrats outweighs Republicans nationally. Do Democrats outweigh Republicans electorally? That's the real question.

Not the away Democrats allowed Republicans to gerrymander the hell out of a lot of states. Typical Democratic ineptitude and weakness.

Republicans took the state houses away from Democrats in 2010. A certain subsection of Democratic voters (mainly young voters) didn't care about state and local elections and are paying the price for it now.

It's difficult for students to stay on top on local elections. That's why there should be a law that allows students to vote in the [college] town in which they reside (for most of the, if not the entire) year.

Actually, student voting has doubled from 2014 to 2018 but so have republican efforts to suppress it. Republicans have been successful at perpetrating this crime on black rural communities as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html

[HarthorneWingo]

Here's some great news of the progressive movement coming out of West Virginia, of all places. Progressive democratic candidate Paula Jean Swearengin wins the Democratic Primary BIG in West Virginia and will go on to face the Republican Shelly whatever in November.

Obviously, this is going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up. No problem. We an do it this way too.

Watch on YouTube

[HarthorneWingo]

Even Spike-TV (aka The Paramount Network) has taken a bolder stand against abusive police practices than Joe Biden. The network just canceled the show "Cops"! Now THAT took some cojones.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cops-tv-show-canceled_n_5ee0126ec5b683b5ef6ef125

[Clyde_Style]

Even Spike-TV (aka The Paramount Network) has taken a bolder stand against abusive police practices than Joe Biden. The network just canceled the show "Cops"! Now THAT took some cojones.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cops-tv-show-canceled_n_5ee0126ec5b683b5ef6ef125

I have some red meat for you and Jremi

The Biden campaign just issued this statement:

As President, I will cancel cops. Whatchyu gonna do bad boys?

[HarthorneWingo]

This is former U.S. Attorney (S.D.NY) Preer Bharara Podcast discussing police reform with attorney Anne Milgrim.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stay-tuned-with-preet/id1265845136#episodeGuid=e64da58b-f1b3-4810-868d-abd5015d795e

[j4remi]

Here's some great news of the progressive movement coming out of West Virginia, of all places. Progressive democratic candidate Paula Jean Swearengin wins the Democratic Primary BIG in West Virginia and will go on to face the Republican Shelly whatever in November.

Obviously, this is going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up. No problem. We an do it this way too.

Watch on YouTube

Winning in WV while Trump is at the top of the ticket would be miraculous. But Paula Jean is a damned good sign that maybe you can have a different conversation in that region than just trying to be a pinch better than the Republican you run against...anything that makes Joe Manchin think twice

[Phish Tank]

Here's some great news of the progressive movement coming out of West Virginia, of all places. Progressive democratic candidate Paula Jean Swearengin wins the Democratic Primary BIG in West Virginia and will go on to face the Republican Shelly whatever in November.

Obviously, this is going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up. No problem. We an do it this way too.

Watch on YouTube

Winning in WV while Trump is at the top of the ticket would be miraculous. But Paula Jean is a damned good sign that maybe you can have a different conversation in that region than just trying to be a pinch better than the Republican you run against...anything that makes Joe Manchin think twice

WV is a weird state. First, they have a bunch of protest voters that refused to vote for president/governor, but voted down ballot (those conservative Manchin Democrats). Odd.

I'm interested in the correlation between the senate & governor race. Paula Jean Swearengin got 69,189 votes, which represented 38% of the total democratic vote. Richard Ojeda, who also supported Bernie, got 60,064 votes for 33% of the total democratic vote. The other person - Richie Robb - got 52,905 votes for 29% of the total vote. I have no clue who Robb is except maybe he's the "non-progressive" candidate that all these Manchin dems voted for. Sigh. Hopefully Swearengin can consolidate the D vote.

The progressive candidate for governor was Stephen Smith. He only got 62,448 of the votes - which was supremely odd. But this race was weird because there were 5 candidates. Salango was the "safe" pick, Stollings also had the "I'll work with both sides" approach, and the others were there for spoilers. I'm surprised why the Swearengin/Ojeda coalition wouldn't back Smith. Odd.

[j4remi]

WV is a weird state. First, they have a bunch of protest voters that refused to vote for president/governor, but voted down ballot (those conservative Manchin Democrats). Odd.

I'm interested in the correlation between the senate & governor race. Paula Jean Swearengin got 69,189 votes, which represented 38% of the total democratic vote. Richard Ojeda, who also supported Bernie, got 60,064 votes for 33% of the total democratic vote. The other person - Richie Robb - got 52,905 votes for 29% of the total vote. I have no clue who Robb is except maybe he's the "non-progressive" candidate that all these Manchin dems voted for. Sigh. Hopefully Swearengin can consolidate the D vote.

The progressive candidate for governor was Stephen Smith. He only got 62,448 of the votes - which was supremely odd. But this race was weird because there were 5 candidates. Salango was the "safe" pick, Stollings also had the "I'll work with both sides" approach, and the others were there for spoilers. I'm surprised why the Swearengin/Ojeda coalition wouldn't back Smith. Odd.

It's legitimately weird. I'm hoping a Howie Klein/David Feldman interview lands some time soon to discuss it. Howie rocks with the Blue America PAC,I really like their list of endorsements and how they break down candidates. He also rights for Down With Tyranny which is pretty damned leftist but from an inside and connected perspective. So he'll provide some of the insight about why the data looks so funky if he jumps on topic.

Ojeda is an interesting character. I thought he was an interesting try for a region I don't know well enough in 2016, when Krystal Ball's PAC was helping him get on, but even back then he was...more a viral ad type (Iron Stache too imo).

[Phish Tank]

WV is a weird state. First, they have a bunch of protest voters that refused to vote for president/governor, but voted down ballot (those conservative Manchin Democrats). Odd.

I'm interested in the correlation between the senate & governor race. Paula Jean Swearengin got 69,189 votes, which represented 38% of the total democratic vote. Richard Ojeda, who also supported Bernie, got 60,064 votes for 33% of the total democratic vote. The other person - Richie Robb - got 52,905 votes for 29% of the total vote. I have no clue who Robb is except maybe he's the "non-progressive" candidate that all these Manchin dems voted for. Sigh. Hopefully Swearengin can consolidate the D vote.

The progressive candidate for governor was Stephen Smith. He only got 62,448 of the votes - which was supremely odd. But this race was weird because there were 5 candidates. Salango was the "safe" pick, Stollings also had the "I'll work with both sides" approach, and the others were there for spoilers. I'm surprised why the Swearengin/Ojeda coalition wouldn't back Smith. Odd.

It's legitimately weird. I'm hoping a Howie Klein/David Feldman interview lands some time soon to discuss it. Howie rocks with the Blue America PAC,I really like their list of endorsements and how they break down candidates. He also rights for Down With Tyranny which is pretty damned leftist but from an inside and connected perspective. So he'll provide some of the insight about why the data looks so funky if he jumps on topic.

Ojeda is an interesting character. I thought he was an interesting try for a region I don't know well enough in 2016, when Krystal Ball's PAC was helping him get on, but even back then he was...more a viral ad type (Iron Stache too imo).

what ever happened to her PAC?

[Jeffrey]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

I got no doubt in my mind if Atlanta had better than usual voter turnout, Georgia would be blue.

But it's almost impossible when they always have issues like this.

This is just a peek into the November election. If it's this bad, it will be 10x worst comes November.

[j4remi]

what ever happened to her PAC?

She was targeting incumbent Dems before there was any infrastructure and I know they came under fire from all angles except the people they worked with. It faded in my mind and I only remembered it when she popped back up on Rising. I don't think they ever had the capital to succeed, last I'd seen they were basically helping by advising and connecting candidates to advisors (that sort of thing). I also think the lack of funds and infrastructure saw them target more flash over substance. I remember Ojeda's and Iron Stache's ads more than anything they brought to the table...

[HarthorneWingo]

Here's some great news of the progressive movement coming out of West Virginia, of all places. Progressive democratic candidate Paula Jean Swearengin wins the Democratic Primary BIG in West Virginia and will go on to face the Republican Shelly whatever in November.

Obviously, this is going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up. No problem. We an do it this way too.

Watch on YouTube

Winning in WV while Trump is at the top of the ticket would be miraculous. But Paula Jean is a damned good sign that maybe you can have a different conversation in that region than just trying to be a pinch better than the Republican you run against...anything that makes Joe Manchin think twice

WV is a weird state. First, they have a bunch of protest voters that refused to vote for president/governor, but voted down ballot (those conservative Manchin Democrats). Odd.

I'm interested in the correlation between the senate & governor race. Paula Jean Swearengin got 69,189 votes, which represented 38% of the total democratic vote. Richard Ojeda, who also supported Bernie, got 60,064 votes for 33% of the total democratic vote. The other person - Richie Robb - got 52,905 votes for 29% of the total vote. I have no clue who Robb is except maybe he's the "non-progressive" candidate that all these Manchin dems voted for. Sigh. Hopefully Swearengin can consolidate the D vote.

The progressive candidate for governor was Stephen Smith. He only got 62,448 of the votes - which was supremely odd. But this race was weird because there were 5 candidates. Salango was the "safe" pick, Stollings also had the "I'll work with both sides" approach, and the others were there for spoilers. I'm surprised why the Swearengin/Ojeda coalition wouldn't back Smith. Odd.

They've been hit hard economically and I think they've now begun to see the light that republican aren't doing anything to help them ... and neither is Joe Manchin. Between Swearengin and Ojeda, that's a nice chunk of the Democratic electorate there. Here's a breakdown I found of the West Virginia electorate.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia/articles/2020-01-05/gop-gains-registered-voters-in-wva-still-lags-behind-dems

Registered Republican voters in West Virginia have increased since Donald Trump won office but still lags behind Democrats entering a presidential election year, according to voter registration figures from the secretary of state’s office.

Overall registration numbers in West Virginia have fallen as residents continue to leave the state and elections officials removed invalid registrations, The Intelligencer and Wheeling News-Register reported.

There were 488,148 registered Democrats in the state at the end of December, a 14.5% drop since November 2016. Meanwhile, there was a 3.2% increase in registered Republicans to 411,872 since the election of Trump, according to secretary of state figures.

There also were 278,851 registered voters without a party affiliation, a 4.4% jump from the 2016 election.

In 2016, despite registered Democrats far outnumbering Republicans in West Virginia, the state gave Trump his largest margin of victory — 42 percentage points.

But the state has lost 83,119 registered Democrats since then and there are 32,393 fewer Democrats registered in the past year. GOP registrations have increased by 13,325 since Trump's election and by 5,540 over the past year.

The overall number of registered voters in West Virginia was 1.225 million at the end of December, down 4 percent from 1.277 million in November 2016.

West Virginia's population has fallen for seven straight years. The state lost more than 12,000 people from 2018 to 2019.

[Phish Tank]

Winning in WV while Trump is at the top of the ticket would be miraculous. But Paula Jean is a damned good sign that maybe you can have a different conversation in that region than just trying to be a pinch better than the Republican you run against...anything that makes Joe Manchin think twice

WV is a weird state. First, they have a bunch of protest voters that refused to vote for president/governor, but voted down ballot (those conservative Manchin Democrats). Odd.

I'm interested in the correlation between the senate & governor race. Paula Jean Swearengin got 69,189 votes, which represented 38% of the total democratic vote. Richard Ojeda, who also supported Bernie, got 60,064 votes for 33% of the total democratic vote. The other person - Richie Robb - got 52,905 votes for 29% of the total vote. I have no clue who Robb is except maybe he's the "non-progressive" candidate that all these Manchin dems voted for. Sigh. Hopefully Swearengin can consolidate the D vote.

The progressive candidate for governor was Stephen Smith. He only got 62,448 of the votes - which was supremely odd. But this race was weird because there were 5 candidates. Salango was the "safe" pick, Stollings also had the "I'll work with both sides" approach, and the others were there for spoilers. I'm surprised why the Swearengin/Ojeda coalition wouldn't back Smith. Odd.

They've been hit hard economically and I think they've now begun to see the light that republican aren't doing anything to help them ... and neither is Joe Manchin. Between Swearengin and Ojeda, that's a nice chunk of the Democratic electorate there. Here's a breakdown I found of the West Virginia electorate.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/west-virginia/articles/2020-01-05/gop-gains-registered-voters-in-wva-still-lags-behind-dems

Registered Republican voters in West Virginia have increased since Donald Trump won office but still lags behind Democrats entering a presidential election year, according to voter registration figures from the secretary of state’s office.

Overall registration numbers in West Virginia have fallen as residents continue to leave the state and elections officials removed invalid registrations, The Intelligencer and Wheeling News-Register reported.

There were 488,148 registered Democrats in the state at the end of December, a 14.5% drop since November 2016. Meanwhile, there was a 3.2% increase in registered Republicans to 411,872 since the election of Trump, according to secretary of state figures.

There also were 278,851 registered voters without a party affiliation, a 4.4% jump from the 2016 election.

In 2016, despite registered Democrats far outnumbering Republicans in West Virginia, the state gave Trump his largest margin of victory — 42 percentage points.

But the state has lost 83,119 registered Democrats since then and there are 32,393 fewer Democrats registered in the past year. GOP registrations have increased by 13,325 since Trump's election and by 5,540 over the past year.

The overall number of registered voters in West Virginia was 1.225 million at the end of December, down 4 percent from 1.277 million in November 2016.

West Virginia's population has fallen for seven straight years. The state lost more than 12,000 people from 2018 to 2019.

that's what I figured. I'm just not sure why they didn't coalesce around Stephen Smith.

[HarthorneWingo]

If there was any doubt about the existence of the "Hidin' Biden in the basement" strategy, Terry McAullife just let the cat out of the bag.

Watch on YouTube

[Clyde_Style]

If there was any doubt about the existence of the "Hidin' Biden in the basement" strategy, Terry McAullife just let the cat out of the bag.

Watch on YouTube

Did you watch Biden's speech in Philly?

[HarthorneWingo]

If there was any doubt about the existence of the "Hidin' Biden in the basement" strategy, Terry McAullife just let the cat out of the bag.

Watch on YouTube

Did you watch Biden's speech in Philly?

They let him out of the basement?

I'm sure he was great. They had a whole month or more to juice up him with Aderall and steroids. But that's fine. I'm good with it all. At this point I just can bare to watch the insane sociopath anymore. Just make this chit end.

[Clyde_Style]

If there was any doubt about the existence of the "Hidin' Biden in the basement" strategy, Terry McAullife just let the cat out of the bag.

Watch on YouTube

Did you watch Biden's speech in Philly?

They let him out of the basement?

I'm sure he was great. They had a whole month or more to juice up him with Aderall and steroids. But that's fine. I'm good with it all. At this point I just can bare to watch the insane sociopath anymore. Just make this chit end.

Why are you still doing this crap then?

He was really good. 22 minutes live, no teleprompter.

You don't have the time to watch that, yet you have the time to keep using social media to try to bring him down. I'd say that is as agenda driven as you can get, because it is nonsense

If you want to trash post, you really can't do any better than pushing a super-trashy, badly argued clickbait video by a human turnip like Krystall Ball

Those two are ratings whores trying to get lefties to drive their ad click rates up. It's pathetic. Yes, Biden is 14 points up at the moment and if he had gotten that by hiding in a cave in the Himalayas while Trump does the heavy lifting then that would be brilliant. But he hasn't been hiding so stop spreading lies

[HarthorneWingo]

Did you watch Biden's speech in Philly?

They let him out of the basement?

I'm sure he was great. They had a whole month or more to juice up him with Aderall and steroids. But that's fine. I'm good with it all. At this point I just can bare to watch the insane sociopath anymore. Just make this chit end.

Why are you still doing this crap then?

He was really good. 22 minutes live, no teleprompter.

You don't have the time to watch that, yet you have the time to keep using social media to try to bring him down. I'd say that is as agenda driven as you can get, because it is nonsense

If you want to trash post, you really can't do any better than pushing a super-trashy, badly argued clickbait video by a human turnip like Krystall Ball

Those two are ratings whores trying to get lefties to drive their ad click rates up. It's pathetic. Yes, Biden is 14 points up at the moment and if he had gotten that by hiding in a cave in the Himalayas while Trump does the heavy lifting then that would be brilliant. But he hasn't been hiding so stop spreading lies

Doing what “crap”? Do you even watch the video? Anyhow, I’m not hiding Joe in the basement. Terry McAullife and the and the DNC are.

Btw, if you want me to watch something, you’ll have to post it like I do.

My recognition of how incredibly dangerous Trump is and want him out of office in the worst way is not incongruous with my pushing more bold progressive policies which would actually work to address the issues we face today. We need to get rid of the old guard and marshal in the new way forward. Pelosi, Schumer, Elliot Engel, Nadler, et al. are out of touch and are increasingly being primaried from the left.

I think the better question is why are you so adamantly against pushing these ideals.

[Clyde_Style]

They let him out of the basement?

I'm sure he was great. They had a whole month or more to juice up him with Aderall and steroids. But that's fine. I'm good with it all. At this point I just can bare to watch the insane sociopath anymore. Just make this chit end.

Why are you still doing this crap then?

He was really good. 22 minutes live, no teleprompter.

You don't have the time to watch that, yet you have the time to keep using social media to try to bring him down. I'd say that is as agenda driven as you can get, because it is nonsense

If you want to trash post, you really can't do any better than pushing a super-trashy, badly argued clickbait video by a human turnip like Krystall Ball

Those two are ratings whores trying to get lefties to drive their ad click rates up. It's pathetic. Yes, Biden is 14 points up at the moment and if he had gotten that by hiding in a cave in the Himalayas while Trump does the heavy lifting then that would be brilliant. But he hasn't been hiding so stop spreading lies

Doing what “crap”? Do you even watch the video? Anyhow, I’m not hiding Joe in the basement. Terry McAullife and the and the DNC are.

Btw, if you want me to watch something, you’ll have to post it like I do.

My recognition of how incredibly dangerous Trump is and want him out of office in the worst way is not incongruous with my pushing more bold progressive policies which would actually work to address the issues we face today. We need to get rid of the old guard and marshal in the new way forward. Pelosi, Schumer, Elliot Engel, Nadler, et al. are out of touch and are increasingly being primaried from the left.

I think the better question is why are you so adamantly against pushing these ideals.

I did watch it. It was clickbait trash and they used the sensationalist title "Do Dems Want Him in the Basement?"

You don't actually know what Biden is up to, but you're willing to push the meme that he is hiding. Exactly whom does that help?

I already posted the link to Biden's speech here, but here it is again

Watch on YouTube

What I'm against is progressivism that traffics in trolling. The American left has too often shown itself to possess a disordered personality that depends on trashing everything in its path instead of being mature advocates for the issues on their own merits.

That is not operating from the strength of a better set of values. It is just pandering to the worst instincts and makes the left just as ugly and untrustworthy as sleazy right wing chit posters.

You can do better

[GONYK]

So the big bombshell that McAuliffe was "caught" admitting is that the Biden team is completely fine letting Trump self-immolate while Biden can give strategically targeted speeches instead of full-scale campaigning?

Looking at the polling numbers, the only thing McAuliffe is admitting to in that clip is intelligence.

That's why the whole "mainstream media manufactures consent against Bernie" stuff is kind of nonsense. The progressive media puts out red meat like that, and that also manufactures consent into accepting the premise that Biden is failing right now when all evidence in the actual world says differently.

Krystal and Sagar and Cristo Avalis, etc... are no different than Fox News and Glen Beck just because you like the direction of their slant more.