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batabatuta wrote:Watched the Inside Crew and Draymond Green just said along the lines that this was not a promotion, Brad was essentially fired.
Yup I agree. I can see him leaving Boston in a year or two unless he brings us to the NBA finals next year.
ddb wrote:batabatuta wrote:Watched the Inside Crew and Draymond Green just said along the lines that this was not a promotion, Brad was essentially fired.
Yup I agree. I can see him leaving Boston in a year or two unless he brings us to the NBA finals next year.
Draymond doesn't know sh*t. Guy just loves to talk
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:I'm chirping about it, but no animosity towards the mods from me. I don't envy that gig at all, and I do appreciate most of the work that mods here have done. I was once a mod on a board busier than this one, and I don't know what to tell anyone about where the line is from something going from insensitive or borderline to blatant racism or sexism. People are rarely going to go out in a blaze of slurs like humbebum did. I do think a lot of posting over the last week or so has been well over where a line should be, but it's not for me to report it to the mods like I'm some 6 year-old. I know that's kind of the model here, and that's fine, but I'm someone who would rather confront people directly. And yeah, I know that I push some boundaries myself.
Part of why I like the discord format is that I'm a lot more likely to have the freedom to just say, "Hey, you are being a piece of **** right now. STFU with that," when someone is going on with coded racial language and neanderthal takes. But mostly, I just like the flow of it and the easier ability to post GIFs or screenshots without having to dig up image URLs or engage in Y2K-era HTML coding. Either way, my other board went through this exact same thing last year, also driven by a flurry of racial stuff. Now there's a thriving board plus a thriving discord, and people have sorted themselves and most of their posting to the appropriate sandbox.
As to truth, he is his own man. He went to bat for me when I was banned (thanks also to SWC), and I do have his back. Both of us are old enough to handle the consequences of our posting haha. I will say this, though. He's 100% right that a league full of predominantly black players are taking note of all of this. It's going to have consequences and already has. We were a white front office with white owners and a white head coach, all trying to dictate the careers of mostly black players. Anyone who thinks we are going to hire another white GM and white coach isn't paying any attention at all.
Absolutely this. Stevens 100% knows this is a problem as well. The Celtics organization is going to get a MAJOR injection of diversity this offseason.
celtics543 wrote:Is this an opportunity to finally get Bird back as part of the organization. He's 64 years old. Could he come in and coach for a couple years? Maybe a job in the front office with Brad? A couple Indiana boys who found a home in Boston.
I'd love to see Stephen A try to go off on First Take if Larry Bird walked through that door as the new coach.
bruno sundov wrote:I'm just mystified as to why they kept Stevens. I get you owe him a ton of money. I thin the Boston Celtics can afford to pay him to stay home.
GregB wrote:bruno sundov wrote:I'm just mystified as to why they kept Stevens. I get you owe him a ton of money. I thin the Boston Celtics can afford to pay him to stay home.
Maybe not. They clearly dumped Theis for financial reasons and he was only owed a few million. Brads got 5 years left on his current deal.
GregB wrote:bruno sundov wrote:I'm just mystified as to why they kept Stevens. I get you owe him a ton of money. I thin the Boston Celtics can afford to pay him to stay home.
Maybe not. They clearly dumped Theis for financial reasons and he was only owed a few million. Brads got 5 years left on his current deal.
BK_2020 wrote:GregB wrote:bruno sundov wrote:I'm just mystified as to why they kept Stevens. I get you owe him a ton of money. I thin the Boston Celtics can afford to pay him to stay home.
Maybe not. They clearly dumped Theis for financial reasons and he was only owed a few million. Brads got 5 years left on his current deal.
A 'few million' now can mean literal hundreds of millions when the repeater tax is triggered down the road.
Celts17Pride wrote:I still believe this is going to end up with an NBA team giving the Celtics a 1st round pick to get Brad Stevens out of his contract and come coach their team. I think it's inevitable in the next year or two.
ddb wrote:Lastly.....If the Celtics didn't want Brad Stevens anymore, Brad Stevens wouldn't be here anymore. And if Brad Stevens wanted to coach, he'd be coaching......likely for IU. So that whole theory that he's been "fired" and "forced" into the front office is childish and inaccurate.
Celts17Pride wrote:I still believe this is going to end up with an NBA team giving the Celtics a 1st round pick to get Brad Stevens out of his contract and come coach their team. I think it's inevitable in the next year or two.
cloverleaf wrote:ddb wrote:batabatuta wrote:Watched the Inside Crew and Draymond Green just said along the lines that this was not a promotion, Brad was essentially fired.
Yup I agree. I can see him leaving Boston in a year or two unless he brings us to the NBA finals next year.
Draymond doesn't know sh*t. Guy just loves to talk
He's likely on target here. And don't know why you'd say he doesn't know stuff.
cloverleaf wrote:Mazz had for about a month, and stuck with his sources saying, Danny would likely step down. He's his take on Brad's role as of this morning:
https://985thesportshub.com/2021/06/03/mazz-the-real-reason-brad-stevens-is-still-here/
So the only way they could keep Stevens was to elevate him, because it’s likely nobody wants him to coach the team anymore, Stevens included. But the Celtics foolishly and eagerly committed so much to Stevens that they were financially handcuffed. (Remind me to hire Stevens’ wife as my agent.) So they’ll keep Stevens on the payroll until another team comes calling looking for a new coach, when Stevens will eagerly jump at the opportunity and be done with what feels like a temporary position – and when the Celtics can shed their financial responsibilities and get a late-round draft pick who will likely turn into the next Ante Zizic.
cloverleaf wrote:ddb wrote:batabatuta wrote:Watched the Inside Crew and Draymond Green just said along the lines that this was not a promotion, Brad was essentially fired.
Yup I agree. I can see him leaving Boston in a year or two unless he brings us to the NBA finals next year.
Draymond doesn't know sh*t. Guy just loves to talk
He's likely on target here. And don't know why you'd say he doesn't know stuff.
greenroom31 wrote:cloverleaf wrote:Mazz had for about a month, and stuck with his sources saying, Danny would likely step down. He's his take on Brad's role as of this morning:
https://985thesportshub.com/2021/06/03/mazz-the-real-reason-brad-stevens-is-still-here/
Here's his view, which is pretty much in-line with what a lot of posters have said (myself included a few posts up):So the only way they could keep Stevens was to elevate him, because it’s likely nobody wants him to coach the team anymore, Stevens included. But the Celtics foolishly and eagerly committed so much to Stevens that they were financially handcuffed. (Remind me to hire Stevens’ wife as my agent.) So they’ll keep Stevens on the payroll until another team comes calling looking for a new coach, when Stevens will eagerly jump at the opportunity and be done with what feels like a temporary position – and when the Celtics can shed their financial responsibilities and get a late-round draft pick who will likely turn into the next Ante Zizic.