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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1541 » by JR Hawks » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:50 am

Jakeopp wrote:
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Jakeopp wrote:Track record outside the lottery since 2014.

2018 - TBD

2017 - Semi (37), Allen (53), Bird (56). Semi is still TBD. Bird could play, too bad he couldn't stay out of trouble.
Missed on: Monte Morris at #51


2016 - Yabu (16), Zizic (23), plus a ton of trash in the second round including Nader (58), Demetrius Jackson (45) and Ben Bentil (51) :banghead:
Missed on: too many to name. LeVert at #20. Pascal Siakam at #27. Dejounte Murray at #29. Malik Beasley at #19. Brodgon at #36. FVV went undrafted.


2015 - Scary Terry (16) (not the worst pick, but I don't want to see him in green ever again), RJ Hunter (28), Jordan Mickey (33), Marcus Thornton (45).
Missed on: Montrezl Harrel at #32, Josh Richardson at #40, Connaughton at #41, Norman Powell at #46 (one pick after we took Thornton).

2014 - James Young (17)
Missed on: Gary Harris at #19, Rodney Hood at #23, Clint Capela at #25, Bogdan Bogdanovic at #27. Missed on guys like the Joker, Joe Harris and Spencer Dinwiddie in the second round, but we apparently didn't have any second round picks


When did nepotism get Austin Ainge hired and what is his role with the draft?

He's been the "director of player personnel" since 2011. As far as what that involves...I'm not the one to ask. Assume he does a lot of scouting stuff.


Well, that's awful drafting and it's no better in the years leading up to your list. Something's broken within the organization.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1542 » by Prophet_C » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:45 am

Bol is going to suck. Want no part of him
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1543 » by Bohemian » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:46 am

I am not an expert in the draft, but we should get a shooter and a power forward. Tyler Herro at #14? I don´t know about the PF. Clarke and Claxton seem too thin for the position
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1544 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:58 am

Bohemian wrote:I am not an expert in the draft, but we should get a shooter and a power forward. Tyler Herro at #14? I don´t know about the PF. Clarke and Claxton seem too thin for the position


Clarke, Claxton, Pj Washington, Bitadze, Hachimura, too, but he's top 10 on most mock drafts right now.
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Post#1545 » by Gomes3PC » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:49 pm

Hachimura has no NBA skills other than being tall and a reasonably good jump shooter for his size. He can't dribble and has terrible vision, and brings minimal rim protection. He's the classic guy who looks the part but not a contributor at the next level.
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Post#1546 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:58 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Hachimura has no NBA skills other than being tall and a reasonably good jump shooter for his size. He can't dribble and has terrible vision, and brings minimal rim protection. He's the classic guy who looks the part but not a contributor at the next level.


That’s a fair take - I think he has a good chance to keep improving, but - he has zero buzz right now. As far as looking the part, though - his midrange game looks really really good to my eye - not just his shot but his pivot, footwork and creativity. Reminds me of a taller, longer Pierce.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1547 » by brackdan70 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:09 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Bohemian wrote:I am not an expert in the draft, but we should get a shooter and a power forward. Tyler Herro at #14? I don´t know about the PF. Clarke and Claxton seem too thin for the position


Clarke, Claxton, Pj Washington, Bitadze, Hachimura, too, but he's top 10 on most mock drafts right now.

I would be ok with any of those guys...I feel we need a good Big from this draft.
Claxton is really intriguing.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1548 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:18 pm

Shooter and a big at #14 and #22. Who's good? Go!
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Post#1549 » by CelticsPride18 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:27 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Shooter and a big at #14 and #22. Who's good? Go!


Herro and take the risk on Bol Bol.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1550 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:32 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Shooter and a big at #14 and #22. Who's good? Go!


Bitadze, Washington or Clarke at #14 and then consolidate #20 and #22 for like 16 and get Herro. Herro would fit our bench pretty well, imo... Bol Bol's talent is great, I don't expect his body to hold up, sadly and with his frame he will more than likely get bullied on defense(hope I'm wrong about his health cause the kid has really impressive b-ball skills)...
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1551 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:56 pm

The other consolidation I'd like is 20+14 for say 10, draft my guy Sekou and then use #22 on Ty Jerome. I dunno if Jerome gonna be an all-star, but I think he could be better than Terry upon entering the league. Good size, can shoot, guard, facilitate.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1552 » by robdog_5 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:00 pm

Let's look at the teams that are best in the NBA right now.

Toronto has no top 10 picks on roster.
Warriors picks Steph at 6, Draymond late, Klay at 10
Nuggets got Jokic late
Bucks got Giannis in teens.

I want to keep all the picks. One they will be cheap controllable players plus you get swings of the bat. Only one may turn into a solid contributor. Especially in a draft like this
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1553 » by Smog » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:Hachimura has no NBA skills other than being tall and a reasonably good jump shooter for his size. He can't dribble and has terrible vision, and brings minimal rim protection. He's the classic guy who looks the part but not a contributor at the next level.


That’s a fair take - I think he has a good chance to keep improving, but - he has zero buzz right now. As far as looking the part, though - his midrange game looks really really good to my eye - not just his shot but his pivot, footwork and creativity. Reminds me of a taller, longer Pierce.



I don’t see how that’s a good take on Hachimura. This guy has size, strength, and quickness to be an NBA big - he’s strong enough and more right now. He defends really well and rebounds. He’s not a good passer, but has a lot of positives on offense, beginning with his ability to score late in the shot clock. Good stroke, strength, defensive attitude, athleticism, has played on winning teams - what’s not to like? And we need a 4.
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Post#1554 » by sam_I_am » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:59 pm

Smog wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:Hachimura has no NBA skills other than being tall and a reasonably good jump shooter for his size. He can't dribble and has terrible vision, and brings minimal rim protection. He's the classic guy who looks the part but not a contributor at the next level.


That’s a fair take - I think he has a good chance to keep improving, but - he has zero buzz right now. As far as looking the part, though - his midrange game looks really really good to my eye - not just his shot but his pivot, footwork and creativity. Reminds me of a taller, longer Pierce.



I don’t see how that’s a good take on Hachimura. This guy has size, strength, and quickness to be an NBA big - he’s strong enough and more right now. He defends really well and rebounds. He’s not a good passer, but has a lot of positives on offense, beginning with his ability to score late in the shot clock. Good stroke, strength, defensive attitude, athleticism, has played on winning teams - what’s not to like? And we need a 4.


Rui is old for lottery but since he is so new to basketball he may still have a ton of upside due to inexperience. Really tricky guy to project. He definitely has above average size and talent.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1555 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:15 pm

robdog_5 wrote:Let's look at the teams that are best in the NBA right now.

Toronto has no top 10 picks on roster.
Warriors picks Steph at 6, Draymond late, Klay at 10
Nuggets got Jokic late
Bucks got Giannis in teens.

I want to keep all the picks. One they will be cheap controllable players plus you get swings of the bat. Only one may turn into a solid contributor. Especially in a draft like this


If I had to bet, I'd say we wont draft all 3 guys in this year's draft. I expect consolidation, some kind of a combination of 2 picks for 1, or maybe even 3 if Danny feels somebody in the top 10 is underrated. I would like us to pick up 2 players. I fully expect Morris to leave, Semi can take his role(Kyrie is leving, too), draft Herro as the 3 point shooter, then a big guy ala Bitadze, Sekou, Clarke, Washington... Maybe an early second for Gafford wouldn't be too bad. Dude is really long and athletic(although we got Williams for that)..
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1556 » by robdog_5 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:17 pm

I really like Washington
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1557 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:25 pm

Hachimura is no better or worse that 12-15 other prospects who might be taken by Boston with the picks Ainge has. There will be a couple of sleepers in this draft. One of them could be Hachimura. Or maybe Ty Jerome turns into the next Malcolm Brogdon, or Goga Bitadze is the next Jokic, or Kevin Porter is the next Jamal Crawford. And then there's Bol Bol, a 7-2 of him with that absurd wingspan and the broken foot.... You pays your money and takes your choice.

I would have no problem with Goga, Hachimura or Kabengele at #14. With 20 and 22 I guess I'm still taking two of the following: Thybulle, Windler, Samanic, Jerome or Porter. I'm not high on Herro because I believe he will be exposed on defense. Windler may be exposed as well, but Windler shoots almost as well as Herro and is a much better rebounder. And if you like Windler or Samanic you could trade down and still get one of them.

Samanic is my #1 sleeper. He's 6-11 and still growing, moves very well laterally for a guy his size, and he can shoot.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1558 » by sully00 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:28 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Shooter and a big at #14 and #22. Who's good? Go!


I think you take the best big at 14 unless someone you expected to be gone is available. Clarke or Bol are my preferences, but Washington or whoever is good too.

I really like Cam Johnson as a 3 and D NBA ready guy. Terrible reason to draft a guy unless you have 3 picks and your in the back end of a flat if not weak draft. He has a pro game and while he projects as an NBA role player it is a really important role.

If you have filled those two spots then the need is PG. Not many attractive options but there are guys worth taking a shot on and in this draft getting your guy is more important than perceived value at the draft slot, Ty Jerome, Carsen Edwards, Shamarie Ponds, Jaylen Lecque (which is a massive flyer).
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1559 » by JR Hawks » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:36 pm

As always, you take the best players available regardless of position.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1560 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:36 pm

Shamorie Ponds has bust written all over him. Ky Bowman is better.
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