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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1541 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:49 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:Looking like its going to be another inefficient day for Edwards. Just starting the 2nd half and already 0-6 from deep


I was on the Cole going #1 train and ended up hopping off. Then I jumped on the Edwards going #1 train and I'm hopping off. I think Im hopping off the 2020 draft train all together haha.

I know, were gonna have a consensus top 4 shooting under 40% this year lol.

I think i would have to try my luck with Wiseman with the top pick. At least he bailed and left some unknown to his name.
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Post#1542 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:58 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:Looking like its going to be another inefficient day for Edwards. Just starting the 2nd half and already 0-6 from deep


I was on the Cole going #1 train and ended up hopping off. Then I jumped on the Edwards going #1 train and I'm hopping off. I think Im hopping off the 2020 draft train all together haha.

I know, were gonna have a consensus top 4 shooting under 40% this year lol.

I think i would have to try my luck with Wiseman with the top pick. At least he bailed and left some unknown to his name.


Ya and Im not sold on Wiseman being a game changer either. What would you rather have

A high volume low post scorer with a questionable motor (Wiseman)
or
A high motor defensive big that is fine with setting good screens and a legit lob threat (Haynes who went #8 last year)

If Im taking a big #1, Im wanting him to have a freakish versatile offensive game and doesn't have motor issues. But I agree at the moment Wiseman would probably be the guy I would take. I would hate to be drafting in the top 10 this year.
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Post#1543 » by Justwar » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:09 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Also on a side note, the Duke players aint going to be too happy when they see that mock draft. All of the freshman have plans of being OADs. None of them are expecting to be back next year...

Absolutely no room either for surprise returns
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Post#1544 » by clyde21 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:11 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Also on a side note, the Duke players aint going to be too happy when they see that mock draft. All of the freshman have plans of being OADs. None of them are expecting to be back next year...

Absolutely no room either for surprise returns


I think Hurt comes back
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1545 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:21 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Also on a side note, the Duke players aint going to be too happy when they see that mock draft. All of the freshman have plans of being OADs. None of them are expecting to be back next year...

Absolutely no room either for surprise returns


I think Hurt comes back


I don't see how Hurt or Moore get drafted this year. Hurt is a set shot version of Steve Novak. Im not sure what Wendell does on an NBA level. Has zero jumper, isn't a high volume scorer and doesn't even score efficiently, he isn't a good facilitator (more turnovers than assists), isn't a great defender and isn't a stand out athlete.

There is room for Hurt to come back since Duke is beyond light in depth at the 5 and 4 next year. There is zero room for Moore.
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Post#1546 » by Karanpal » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:23 pm

Landers nolley can flat out score the basketball I love watching him play
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Post#1547 » by HeadtopChunes » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:37 pm

Im moving Okoro to my top tier after this recent stretch
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Post#1548 » by clyde21 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:25 pm

T1
SCOTTIE LEWIS
RJ HAMPTON
ANTHONY EDWARDS
JOSH GREEN
OSCAR TSHIEBWE

T2
TYRESE HALIBURTON
NICO MANNION
ISAAC OKORO
JAMES WISEMAN
OCHAI AGBAJI
JOE WIESKAMP
TRE JONES
COLE ANTHONY

these are my top 2 tiers at this point more or less, don't see anyone else going into T1 right now.
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Post#1549 » by clyde21 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:17 pm

who do people have returning for Kentucky?

there's no way Whitney is in is he? Keion Brooks probably too.
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Post#1550 » by Justwar » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:47 pm

clyde21 wrote:who do people have returning for Kentucky?

there's no way Whitney is in is he? Keion Brooks probably too.


Hagans, richards, whitney, montgomery leave.
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Post#1551 » by Justwar » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:48 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
Justwar wrote:Absolutely no room either for surprise returns


I think Hurt comes back


I don't see how Hurt or Moore get drafted this year. Hurt is a set shot version of Steve Novak. Im not sure what Wendell does on an NBA level. Has zero jumper, isn't a high volume scorer and doesn't even score efficiently, he isn't a good facilitator (more turnovers than assists), isn't a great defender and isn't a stand out athlete.

There is room for Hurt to come back since Duke is beyond light in depth at the 5 and 4 next year. There is zero room for Moore.


Not sure there's a lot of pt for hurt either unless he's at center.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1552 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:03 am

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clyde21 wrote:who do people have returning for Kentucky?

there's no way Whitney is in is he? Keion Brooks probably too.


Hagans, richards, whitney, montgomery leave.


Maxey you mean...if Whitney leaves it shoukd be to transfer
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Post#1553 » by Justwar » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:40 am

Yeah I forgot Maxey. I can whitney just trying g league.
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Post#1554 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:18 am

I'm going to miss Tre Jones. Man is that dude just the perfect college PG. If he can ever get a consistent jumper (it was on tonight), he could turn into a really solid starting NBA PG.
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Post#1555 » by The-Power » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:35 pm

Isaiah Joe had a ‘performance of the season’ type of game. Incredibly hot when his team needed to pull off a comeback and with some great defensive plays. Elite 3&D SG potential.

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Post#1556 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:01 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I'm going to miss Tre Jones. Man is that dude just the perfect college PG. If he can ever get a consistent jumper (it was on tonight), he could turn into a really solid starting NBA PG.


love everything about the guy, even if he's doesn't develop a solid J, i'd still love to have a guy like that run my 2nd unit, he's a plug and play guy everything else is icing on the cake.
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Post#1557 » by Justwar » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:12 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I'm going to miss Tre Jones. Man is that dude just the perfect college PG. If he can ever get a consistent jumper (it was on tonight), he could turn into a really solid starting NBA PG.


love everything about the guy, even if he's doesn't develop a solid J, i'd still love to have a guy like that run my 2nd unit, he's a plug and play guy everything else is icing on the cake.


I can't shy from the opinion that hagans is equal to tre jones but the narrative for hagans has been established even though after a slow start shooting, he's shooting 42 percent from 3 last ten games. One thing I need to see with both is making bigger plays, both seem to make the easy reads but afraid to throw a high risk high reward one. The easy reads get picked off in the nba which is why assist to turnover ratio is such a horrific stat
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1558 » by nolang1 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:38 pm

It's weirdly dismissive of both Hayes and Wiseman to act as though preferring Hayes automatically rules out Wiseman as being worthy of a high pick. I had Hayes #2 last year and wouldn't change that based on what I've seen so far. Hayes would be #1 in this year's draft and you've got to take players relative to who else is in that particular draft with them.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft 

Post#1559 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:10 pm

it's never been about Hayes or Wiseman's talent, it's always been a question of how high you take their archetype.

i don't think Wiseman is the athlete that Hayes is either tbh.
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Post#1560 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:15 am

nolang1 wrote:It's weirdly dismissive of both Hayes and Wiseman to act as though preferring Hayes automatically rules out Wiseman as being worthy of a high pick. I had Hayes #2 last year and wouldn't change that based on what I've seen so far. Hayes would be #1 in this year's draft and you've got to take players relative to who else is in that particular draft with them.


I brought up Hayes because of the type of player he is. The freak athletic defensive bigs that accept their roles as a screener and lob target seem to be valuable players, while bigs that aren't great defenders or freak offensive players don't seem to be having the same kind of impact in today's game.

73% of Wiseman's shots came at the rim. He didnt really show any kind of range. His motor has always been questioned and yes while he gets a lot of blocks, he isn't known as a great defender. He kind of seems like an Andre Drummond 2.0 almost.

Again Im not saying Wiseman is a bad prospect, Im just saying his archetype of player hasn't really been all that impactful in today's NBA, especially when considering them at the #1 pick.

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