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Love #5: P. 88, Bulls 'moving on' from Love

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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1561 » by Proven_Winner » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:50 am

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Butler is a mediocre offensive player at best, Dunleavy isn't anyone that an average NBA defensive player can't handle, and McDermott hasn't even established himself as an NBA player. But we're acting like McBuckets is already some big time scorer but Waiters has no shot of becoming one too. Or that Irving has no shot at ascending to superstar status. All sunshine and rainbows around here and imminent doom and gloom for Cleveland. :D


I rather people have all sunshines and rainbows instead of being scared like a bunch of wusses (not aimed towards you). Our team is not scared of them and neither should the fans because we don't know how that team will play out.


Scared or realistic? People weren't "scared" of Miami in 2011. Still lost to them in 5. As a friend of mine always says, you don't have to be scared to get whooped. The thought that all our young players (McDermott, Snell, Mirotic, Butler) will develop into the offensive players we need but that Cleveland's young guys (Irving, Waiters, Thompson) have no further development in them despite them all being superior prospects with more talent is delusional. And then there's the fact that they have LeBron James on their team. And Kevin Love. Cleveland is making SIGNIFICANT upgrades to their roster. If the Bulls don't do the same at the wing position we'll be left behind. Simple as that.


Sorry man I'm just not apart of the doom and gloom group. We both have different opinions on this situation so that's all I can leave it up to being what you think is realistic is what I call being scared. To me being scared wins you nothing but a deserved ass whooping. Like I said I have faith in this team and if they show no signs of bowing down and kissing Clevelands ass then neither do I.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1562 » by waffle » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:50 am

watch Clev try to low ball them to keep some talent/depth.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1563 » by panthermark » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:51 am

Droseisthe1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/494675830350438400[/tweet]


I'd like to know how are we moving on if we were never even put an offer in?

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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1564 » by AKfanatic » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:55 am

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Droseisthe1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/494675830350438400[/tweet]


I'd like to know how are we moving on if we were never even put an offer in?

One day we will get our own story straight.....


Nah, one day, a year or two from now, we will hear the story created and then repeated as fact that the Bulls idiotic front office missed out on Kevin Love because they didn't want to include Kirk Hinrich and a 2222 2nd rd. pick
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1565 » by Proven_Winner » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:55 am

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Butler is a mediocre offensive player at best, Dunleavy isn't anyone that an average NBA defensive player can't handle, and McDermott hasn't even established himself as an NBA player. But we're acting like McBuckets is already some big time scorer but Waiters has no shot of becoming one too. Or that Irving has no shot at ascending to superstar status. All sunshine and rainbows around here and imminent doom and gloom for Cleveland. :D


I rather people have all sunshines and rainbows instead of being scared like a bunch of wusses (not aimed towards you). Our team is not scared of them and neither should the fans because we don't know how that team will play out.
That is silly. No one is "scared" like OMG I'm afraid to watch them play...maybe our team can fake food poisoning? (That is just one of those things that bugs me....when people say "I'm not scared" on forums...as if you are the one actually suiting up, or if someone is actually, physically scared).

It is more like "damn it", that Bron did it again...this must be how other teams felt in the 90's.

We were ALL haters in 2010, and we all cheered when the Heat lost to the Mavs. Then we all shut our collective pie holes for 2 years and they won back to back titles. Then we cheered again when the lost during their FOURTH STRAIGHT TRIP TO THE FINALS. People are going crazy with the "Spurs model" junk about depth and how to beat the "Heat model".
The way to beat the "Heat model" was to basically let them age and salary cap out. Wade was a shell of himself and the roster was dirt thin and getting older.

It another team is more talented, they are more talented. It just sucks that "our window" was basically Bron's prime as well.

No what's silly is you acting as if you don't get what people mean by scared. Of course no one is pissing their damn pants as if they are about to get jumped or something. When people say scared you already know it means it means they still have enough faith in their team to feel that they have a chance.

Now yes some people are like that, but more or less you see some people who act all doom and gloom about the situation as if everything is over.

Agreed although I never was apart of those models discussion because I could honestly care less.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1566 » by Polynice4Pippen » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:56 am

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I rather people have all sunshines and rainbows instead of being scared like a bunch of wusses (not aimed towards you). Our team is not scared of them and neither should the fans because we don't know how that team will play out.


Scared or realistic? People weren't "scared" of Miami in 2011. Still lost to them in 5. As a friend of mine always says, you don't have to be scared to get whooped. The thought that all our young players (McDermott, Snell, Mirotic, Butler) will develop into the offensive players we need but that Cleveland's young guys (Irving, Waiters, Thompson) have no further development in them despite them all being superior prospects with more talent is delusional. And then there's the fact that they have LeBron James on their team. And Kevin Love. Cleveland is making SIGNIFICANT upgrades to their roster. If the Bulls don't do the same at the wing position we'll be left behind. Simple as that.


Sorry man I'm just not apart of the doom and gloom group. We both have different opinions on this situation so that's all I can leave it up to being what you think is realistic is what I call being scared. To me being scared wins you nothing but a deserved ass whooping. Like I said I have faith in this team and if they show no signs of bowing down and kissing Clevelands ass then neither do I.


All that sounds good, but the bottom line is if Cleveland lands Love for just Wiggins and Bennett then they will have assembled a better basketball team. And that's all that matters, yo. :wink:
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1567 » by kyrv » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:56 am

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panthermark wrote:
Droseisthe1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/494675830350438400[/tweet]


I'd like to know how are we moving on if we were never even put an offer in?

One day we will get our own story straight.....


Nah, one day, a year or two from now, we will hear the story created and then repeated as fact that the Bulls idiotic front office missed out on Kevin Love because they didn't want to include Kirk Hinrich and a 2222 2nd rd. pick


Bulls wouldn't include Deng.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1568 » by panthermark » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:56 am

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Sorry man I'm just not apart of the doom and gloom group. We both have different opinions on this situation so that's all I can leave it up to being what you think is realistic is what I call being scared. To me being scared wins you nothing but a deserved ass whooping. Like I said I have faith in this team and if they show no signs of bowing down and kissing Clevelands ass then neither do I.

What does that even mean?
Were actually contemplating driving to Cleveland and kissing their rosters ass if the our own players would have done it?
Obviously we all want the Bulls to win. I would rather be the heavy favorites for once instead of the underdog.
Beating Miami in the regular season was nice. Stopping their streak was awesome. But in the end, putting up a "good fight" if worthless and their two rings trump everything else.

Bottom line is that we have no control over any of this and can only hope for the best. But I'm not going to be a homer about it.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1569 » by Polynice4Pippen » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:57 am

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I rather people have all sunshines and rainbows instead of being scared like a bunch of wusses (not aimed towards you). Our team is not scared of them and neither should the fans because we don't know how that team will play out.


Scared or realistic? People weren't "scared" of Miami in 2011. Still lost to them in 5. As a friend of mine always says, you don't have to be scared to get whooped. The thought that all our young players (McDermott, Snell, Mirotic, Butler) will develop into the offensive players we need but that Cleveland's young guys (Irving, Waiters, Thompson) have no further development in them despite them all being superior prospects with more talent is delusional. And then there's the fact that they have LeBron James on their team. And Kevin Love. Cleveland is making SIGNIFICANT upgrades to their roster. If the Bulls don't do the same at the wing position we'll be left behind. Simple as that.



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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1571 » by AKfanatic » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:04 am

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Scared or realistic? People weren't "scared" of Miami in 2011. Still lost to them in 5. As a friend of mine always says, you don't have to be scared to get whooped. The thought that all our young players (McDermott, Snell, Mirotic, Butler) will develop into the offensive players we need but that Cleveland's young guys (Irving, Waiters, Thompson) have no further development in them despite them all being superior prospects with more talent is delusional. And then there's the fact that they have LeBron James on their team. And Kevin Love. Cleveland is making SIGNIFICANT upgrades to their roster. If the Bulls don't do the same at the wing position we'll be left behind. Simple as that.



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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1572 » by Jcool0 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:09 am

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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1573 » by Polynice4Pippen » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:09 am

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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1574 » by jump » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:13 am

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Sorry man I'm just not apart of the doom and gloom group. We both have different opinions on this situation so that's all I can leave it up to being what you think is realistic is what I call being scared. To me being scared wins you nothing but a deserved ass whooping. Like I said I have faith in this team and if they show no signs of bowing down and kissing Clevelands ass then neither do I.

What does that even mean?
Were actually contemplating driving to Cleveland and kissing their rosters ass if the our own players would have done it?
Obviously we all want the Bulls to win. I would rather be the heavy favorites for once instead of the underdog.
Beating Miami in the regular season was nice. Stopping their streak was awesome. But in the end, putting up a "good fight" if worthless and their two rings trump everything else.

Bottom line is that we have no control over any of this and can only hope for the best. But I'm not going to be a homer about it.


Being a homer about it is exactly what you are supposed to do. You're a Bulls fan, no? The deal is you're supposed to spit in the eye of the best teams in your conference and say: you don't scare us. We don't care if you have the top player in the league and are getting Kevin Love too. We're going to kick your ass anyway. Because we are tougher meaner have more character and want it more than you do. We don't care if espn and the lame pundits think you're better. We're going to prove it on the court. EF off. It'll be so sweet when we dump you in six.

THATS the attitude you're supposed to have as a Bulls fan. Being a realist is just playing it safe. Being a fan is balls out defiance.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1575 » by Payt10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:25 am

It will be awesome when Love leaves Cleveland after the year is over.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1576 » by panthermark » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:26 am

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Being a homer about it is exactly what you are supposed to do. You're a Bulls fan, no? The deal is you're supposed to spit in the eye of the best teams in your conference and say: you don't scare us. We don't care if you have the top player in the league and are getting Kevin Love too. We're going to kick your ass anyway. Because we are tougher meaner have more character and want it more than you do. We don't care if espn and the lame pundits think you're better. We're going to prove it on the court. EF off. It'll be so sweet when we dump you in six.

THATS the attitude you're supposed to have as a Bulls fan. Being a realist is just playing it safe. Being a fan is balls out defiance.

LOL!

Yeah....ummmm....no

That sounds like some Knicks fan type stuff.

You pull for your team regardless. But that does not mean (to me) you run around screaming you are going to kick everyone's ass every game. Where you yelling that during the early 2000's?
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1577 » by Payt10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:27 am

It also really sucks the Bulls couldn't even get Love despite him having them #1 or #2 on his wish list. At some point, this streak has to end.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1578 » by panthermark » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:27 am

Payt10 wrote:It will be awesome when Love leaves Cleveland after the year is over.

THAT would be awesome.

So sick of Bron getting his way.

I'm not going to wish injury on anyone, but I want to see something to make that team implode and Love leave. Maybe Bron's posse and his mom go crazy with power or something.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1579 » by Payt10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:31 am

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Payt10 wrote:It will be awesome when Love leaves Cleveland after the year is over.

THAT would be awesome.

So sick of Bron getting his way.

I'm not going to wish injury on anyone, but I want to see something to make that team implode and Love leave. Maybe Bron's posse and his mom go crazy with power or something.

I predict they lose to somebody, preferably the Bulls in the 1st or 2nd round, getting annihilated, causing a Dwight Howard 2.0 scenario.
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Re: Love #5: Where there is Love there is life 

Post#1580 » by panthermark » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:32 am

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